Did He, Or Didn't He? And Does It Really Matter?

Sort of seems silly to me to be debating whether Barack Obama attended service at Trinity on one particular day over a twenty year period. But when someone makes the claim, it needs to be resolved. Did Obama attend church in Chicago in the AM before flying to Miami on July 22?

The reality is, Jeremiah Wright shaped Obama's religious philosophy. By Obama's own statements we know his religious philosophy drives his political philosophy. What else is there to know?

At best, Obama is a cynical politician who used a religion to win broader appeal throughout South Chicago. At worst, he's a racist - viewing the entire American experience primarily in shades of black and white.

Neither portrait matches what he would have us believe. Perhaps he's so young and inexperienced, aside from his speaking abilities, the man doesn't even know himself, yet. That's hardly a qualifier for the presidency.

Comments

[IslamoLlama]

"--FWIW, I have deep issues with the constitutionality of the war. That is far aside from what a soldier's responsibility is, to himself, to his squad and team and unit, to his brother soldiers in general, and to these United States, to whom he has offered a sacrifice which remains undiminished in spite of his whinings here.--"

WOW! That's some deep thinking right there!
"Gee, I have some reservations about this war. Namely, those reservations stem around the fact that it may be blatantly illegal. But that shouldn't stop good American soldiers from being press-ganged into enacting the entirely unconstitutional policies in defense of the Constitution their organization is sworn to defend. Cause, you know, Constitutions were made to be broken."

You are a laugh riot, seek. I don't know if you are entirely disingenuous and simply hedging your comments so you don't sound fruit-loops insane or if you honestly are so deep into the cognitive dissonance that "unconstitutional" and "a soldier's responsibility" can sit comfortably in side-by-side sentences.

I can just see you in Nazi Germany, circa 1942. "Well, the invasion of Poland may have been legally somewhat questionable. And marching into Russia was not the wisest tactical decision. But how does that excuse a soldier from using such disrespectful language towards the fine officers in charge of Auschwitz?"

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"FWIW, I have deep issues with the constitutionality of the war."

Dude, you really DID say that huh? I'll give you that a soldier's first duty is to the guy beside him, but the Constitution has to come a dead second.

[chris]

Perhaps you flag-wavers should stop posting backward nonsense and go look for those WMDs. Without them, you and your leader look like - well - idiots.

You can connect to Damascus from Paris. Good luck!!

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Perhaps you should try working for a living

[seekeronos]

"--- But that shouldn't stop good American soldiers from being press-ganged ---"

Last I heard, the draft was cancelled back in 1975. Of course, you might be too young to remember that.

More recently, Charlie Rangel of NY-14 was stumping like a finely plumed peacock for the re-instatement of the draft - which went over about as well as the maiden voyage of the Titanic.

"--- I don't know if you are entirely disingenuous and simply hedging your comments so you don't sound fruit-loops insane or if you honestly are so deep into the cognitive dissonance that "unconstitutional" and "a soldier's responsibility" can sit comfortably in side-by-side sentences. ---"

That I think the war to be unconstitutional is an opinion that I hold as a voter. To my deep chagrin, my opinion does not hold a whole great deal of weight with those who are crafting our foreign policy.

To the degree that the American public has given wide assent to the war from the beginning, draws my opinion into question against the pressing need to (a) stand up a government (or governments, should a partition become needful) and with that government, a sufficient security and defense force to repel the Badrists and Sadrists and Al-Quaeda as well, among so many other threats.

Of course, I also have an opinion that the strategy of the occupation was ineptly handled as well, where we could either have co-opted the existing Ba'athist forces who weren't very immediately allied with Saddam Hussein and his inner circle, and put them on a very short leash while allowing them to go after the bad guys (the jihadist insurgents particularly).

Or better still, to have kept Saddam on the back burner and making Afghanistan the schwerpunkt of our efforts until OBL was captured: the only problem being that Al-Quaeda was shifting its ops into Saddam's Iraq.

Wherefore I say that if the President had articulated his plans and had asked (the GOP-lead Congress) for a declaration of war against Saddam's Iraq and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, he might well have gotten it.

As for the soldiers functioning under the command of the President, their duty is to obey his *lawful* orders. At this time, there is no suit for nor impeachment of President Bush's actions that could call into review any unconstitutional activity on the part of the President, much less a cutoff of funding for the war.

Now if the Dems be men and women of such principle that they would not be concerned with getting re-elected in 2008 over pressing forward with impeachment or a cutoff of funds (that one coming with the pain of having denied financing to our soldiers and risking their lives even further for perceived political gain), then by Jingo, where is their backbone?

Why has the DemCong failed to cease funding this illegal war, and why have they not brought articles of impeachment against Mr. Bush?

[seekeronos]

And I while could route the same question to the GOP congressional leaders as well ... but the Democrats have an even greater burden to bear in that while the GOP 109th Congress originally assented to the conduct of operations in the Middle East, the Democrats did very little - outside of symbolic, non-binding votes - to end the war.

[seekeronos]

In short, the 110th Congress has at this late moment in its lifespan, utterly failed to make good on the very planks that made the nutroots elect them to office.

[Worst President Ever]

The Democrats don't have the votes to end the war.

But there's gonna be more Dems after November. So maybe next session they'll get it done.

[templar knight]

I love it when left-wing pukes threaten people on the internet. It shows the world how truly sorry they are. And I doubt whether this guy is a member of the 82nd, but if he is, he has discredited his unit. He is most likely a 20-year old college puke playing on the internet.

[Lala]

Reuters ^ | March 17, 2008 | Jeff Mason
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may cost Americans $1 trillion and add strain to the sagging U.S. economy as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war "we cannot win."

[IslamoLlama]

"--And I while could route the same question to the GOP congressional leaders as well ... but the Democrats have an even greater burden to bear in that while the GOP 109th Congress originally assented to the conduct of operations in the Middle East, the Democrats did very little - outside of symbolic, non-binding votes - to end the war.--"

Ok, I'm going for deliberate insincerity now. Perhaps you can blame the skyrocketing Bush debt, the collapsing Tax Cut Economy, and the rising price of oil on the Democrats as well. Because, after all, they've been in office for nearly 15 months and everything isn't fixed like it was when Bush took office seven years ago.

I wonder if your wife ever lets you in the kitchen? I can completely imagine you cooking up a giant, sloppy, greasy, filthy meal then dumping all the dishes in the sink and throwing a tantrum the next morning when everything isn't spotless again.

Why, its almost like every anti-war resolution that gets footing in the House or Senate is filibustered for weeks before it gets stabbed to death with the Veto pen. But... you know... that's the Democrats' fault what with their super-majorities in both houses of congress.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"they've been in office for nearly 15 months and everything isn't fixed like it was when Bush took office seven years ago."

Wwell, it wasn't then either but one would think it should be to hear the whining from the left every....single....second...of the ....day ...since. Also, if 70 odd % of the country is ready to quit and run....then their representatives aren't getting the word. There's only a handful here, maybe your time would be better spent getting the word out to the rest of the country

[seekeronos]

For Wahoo:
"--- Dude, you really DID say that huh? I'll give you that a soldier's first duty is to the guy beside him, but the Constitution has to come a dead second. ---"

To clarify myself on this, I recognize that there is a serious crisis in the Islamic world as touching on their conquest theology vs. the animus presented by (A) our presence in Islamic "holy lands", namely, our military units in Saudi Arabia, and more recently, in the "Dar-al-Islam" at large (Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, etc.) This was one of the stated reasons Al-Quaeda opened up their jihad against us. (B) Our support for the state of Israel is also a major grievance to the jihadists. Unfortunately, given the sizeable population of Jewish citizens in America, especially those who are in positions of influence and power in numbers disproportionate to the the rest of Americans, as well as the (rightfully so) pro-Israel stance of most Christians... this support of Israel is unlikely to change.

Israel is a force for democracy and relative freedom in amongst the mostly autocratic or Islamo-fascist regimes that predominate throughout the Middle East, as well as being something of focus of jealousy: here are a dozen and half nations that have the capacity and potential to be several times greater individually than Israel in terms of economic and industrial might, were they to pursue that. Instead, they are content on maintaining their tribalist factions and relative ignorance masked over with the indignant jealousies of an intolerant Islamist superculture.

About the only nation that came close to emerging from underneath that pall of ignorance and autocracy was Persia under Shah Reza Pahlavi (while no the Shah was certainly no libertarian, Iran/Persia made some advances that were going far to putting Iran on the map as a first-class nation until the Ayatollahs took over).

Saudi and Dubai have lots of shining pretty cities, but those are only for the Princes and oil sheikhs and not for the average Mustafa.

Islam, in its current form, lacks an ability to make a distinction to separate itself from secular and governmental affairs. Rather, it is a central tenet of Islam that it rule both spiritual and temporal, not unlike the pre-Reformation Catholic Church under the rule of the Popes.

Additionally, it tends to gravitate toward a conquest mindset (as evidenced by the character and employment of its founder, Mohammed, as a 7th century Arab raider). Religions tend to take on the nature of their founders, much as Buddhism and Taoism are somewhat esoteric and high-minded religions that were founded by a Hindu princeling in the former case and a court scribe/teacher in the latter. Jesus of Nazareth was a carpenter's "son", but being the Son of God, He was able to commune with the Father and reveal to us the true path of salvation, that of love, forgiveness, and redemption.

I digressed, but my point is we find ourselves in a crisis against a determined enemy ideology, and we must face this crisis - I hope, through the lens of the Constitution in terms of our covenant between the People and our secular government to wage defensive warfare as needed, and with our Holy Bible as our covenant with our Heavenly Father.

Therefore, we must weigh whether or not our response to the jihadist enemy can be made Constitutionally, and by what degree we are to respond in. A war differs substantially from a retaliatory (counter)attack; in the American experience of the last century, it requires a (constitutional) declaration, a marshalling of resources (even to the point of significant privations to the public) and investment of considerable resources - to be paid for with the current economy, not our childrens' or grand childrens'... and a will to fight to complete victory.

I fear that we lacked the first starting off, we have denied the reality and practice of second, third, and fourth parts, and seem to be faltering (with the exception of the respite provided by the surge) in the last part.

Despite all of this, knowing what donkey-brained intelligence we had to work with at the outset, I think that Bush did the best he could do with what he had to work with. And at the outset, I too was caught up in those heady days after the towers first came down when the national outcry for vengeance was at a fever pitch.

Had we limited our response to the bounds offered by the Constitution, perhaps granting the modern equivalent of "letters of Marque and Reprisal" to privateers/contractors willing to punish certain targeted enemies, we might have saved ourselves considerable grief and expense.

[chris]

Interesting how you flag-wavers really believe that America wants anything more to do with your sad, failed war in Iraq. Not being able to secure the place after 5, yes FIVE, years in addition to squandering upwards of $1 Billion in direct costs is pretty damn pathetic. But no matter, November is coming. Lets see how much flag-waving there will be then.

Remember, Air France flies daily to Damascus - go find those WMDs!!!!

[seekeronos]

"--- I wonder if your wife ever lets you in the kitchen? I can completely imagine you cooking up a giant, sloppy, greasy, filthy meal then dumping all the dishes in the sink and throwing a tantrum the next morning when everything isn't spotless again. ---"

With few exceptions, my wife does the cooking and I do the clean-up. Mutual agreement: she cooks REALLY well, and I am bit of a fussbudget about making sure the dishes and kitchen are clean.

When I do cook, the few things I do make are works of art, and like Mrs. Seeker's cuisine, low on grease. Except for my spare ribs. Now them's be some gaaaarrrreeeeeeeasah rib'ns, y'know!

[Lala]

I worked for an airline that was the handling agent for Iran Air. The Shah was bankrolling students to come to the US and attend college. He wanted to bring Iran into the 20th Century. Every day the flights arrived with hundreds of them, and they had plenty of spending money. When the Shah was overthrow there were a lot of very unhappy people returning to Iran because the money had dried up.

I picked up the following info from Free Republic:

It did not take long for Ekhlaas, the largest terrorist forum on the internet to rejoice and be all happy with Hillary Clinton defeatist statements today about the war in Iraq. Hillary Clinton said that we cannot win this war even if we stay there for a 100 year. The terrorists were very glad to hear this and below are some of their comments which I translated:

“Zamjari”: Allah is Great Brothers, Hillary Clinton: We cannot win the war in Iraq even if we stay for a hundred year

They post the defeatist statements by Hillary Clinton said today about the Iraq war

“Moukhles Moutaalek”: You dogs, you sacrifice the future of your country so you can win a presidential election. If America withdraws from Iraq this will give a clear signal that America can be defeated and America will suffer from attacks all over the world. Taste the flavor of treason you Americans, I am mocking you, may allah put the in authority the traitors from their own skin, the slaves of thrones.

“Younis Al Shami”: In America's fight against the people of Mesopotamia, America will forget the horrors of Vietnam

“Hode”: Allah protect Sheikh Ossama the conqueror of the Americans from the plots of the enemies

http://ekhlaas.org/forum/showthread.php?t=132123

PS: Ekhlaas terrorist forum is a password protected website so to view the content of the link above you need to register and of course it is in Arabic.

[seekeronos]

What flag do you fly, "chris" ?

The Jihadist battle flag?

The UN Flag? Or how about the Red Army Flag (of socialism/commnunism) ?

The Weathermen rainbow?

The Gay rainbow?

Or perhaps you are a African Nationalist (somehow, I doubt that) or a Nazi?

You got me flummoxed, you sly little slug, you. Because for someone as vehemently anti-American as you, one might think you'd be waving some kind of anti-American flag.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Lets see how much flag-waving there will be then."

Come by, I'll show you one that will be proudly waving no matter what happens. But then my patriotism has nothing to do with whose ass is in the oval office. Sad that apparently yours does when some camposino would love to take your place as a citizen.

[seekeronos]

"--- Why, its almost like every anti-war resolution that gets footing in the House or Senate is filibustered for weeks before it gets stabbed to death with the Veto pen. But... you know... that's the Democrats' fault what with their super-majorities in both houses of congress. ---"

And you see Zifnab-- I mean, Islamollama... this is the dangerous course we find ourselves in , between Scylla and Charybdis: if we choose the Democrats who will assuredly end the war, we also get a weakened ability to respond decisively (options from raising contractors with letters of Marque and Reprisal to a full on nuclear retaliatory strike against a massively devastating terrorist attack).

To say nothing of the baggage of a Socialist agenda that repeals any further restraints for the laws of Nature and Nature's God, as we find ourselves flying headlong down the path of Marx to greet our friends Sweden and Norway and France, who know quite a good deal about what it is like to have Islamic jihadists homegrown in their very midst, as well as angering Almighty God further with the policies of demons and devils, and educators of the mold of Harvey Milk and Jocelyn Elders.

Chance that now, against a revived GOP majority, who would continue the regime of Bush and its arguably unconstitutional war policy under McCain - status quo pro bellum.

[templar knight]

chris doesn't fly flags, gents. He's a citizen of the world, too cool to be hindered by all this patriotic bull. He's worthy of a Knighthood, as he is the elite of the elite, well-educated, better than the average person, more knowledgable, more blessed, and thus worthy to rule the World. He's not hindered by the little gods of the common folk, but will use god if it so fits his purpose, and will play god if he gets even the tiniest of chances. Unfortunately for all of us, a society that spawns the likes of chris, jharp, Boob, William and the rest of the Leftist scum is going to hell in a handbasket, and is not likely to survive in its present form.

[Kaitian]

"before it gets stabbed to death with the Veto pen." No withdrawal bill has seen the President's desk. HR 1585, a defense bill, was vetoed by President Bush because of pork in the bill and it allowed frivolous lawsuits to happened if it had passed. Try again.

[IslamoLlama]

"--What flag do you fly, "chris" ?

The Jihadist battle flag?

The UN Flag? Or how about the Red Army Flag (of socialism/commnunism) ?

The Weathermen rainbow?

The Gay rainbow?

Or perhaps you are a African Nationalist (somehow, I doubt that) or a Nazi?--"

I've got the biggest UT Longhorns flag I could find hanging on one side of my living room. On the other, my roommate has an equally large Aggie flag. I can't say much about patriotism, but school spirit runs rampant through my condo.

Wouldn't it be great if people valued their educations and their health and well-being more than empty abstract concepts of "Patriotism"? Rather than huddling together in cliches and cults, people could acknowledge each other's national identities and still maintain mutual respect. It's a sad state of affairs when you're vilified on the suspicion of a lack of proper lip service. Does someone need to have a big pretty piece of cloth to embrace an ideology? Does one's big pretty piece of cloth make him patriotic?

If Chris did have a big hammer and sickle on his wall, would you beat him up? Try to throw him in jail? Key his car? Toss racial slurs at him and his family?

How sad and horrible a world you build for yourselves.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

LLama you seem to be arguing with yourself and doing very well.....and personal info slipping out. SO it is ok to use symbolism to show dedication to my school (a big ole terrapin) but not to my country of birth? It being the country that gave me (by accident of birth) that education, health, well being, etc. After all, just a few hundred miles south east and I coulda been Haitian. I am sorry that "patriotism" is abstract for you. My college had to wait and I spent my 19th b-day in a bar in Bangkok. Something about being in a country under martial law....and seeing their neighbor murder Vietnamese refugees kinda brought home to me that my country was a fairly decent place. I also got a real good education on exactly what it took, good and bad, to give me and you a country where instead of you going to school where the government says you'll go...you get to pick your major...or whatever job you want without going to school. You even get to choose your own cliches and cults, clubs whatever. ANd no, absolutely not, does one need symbols to embrace these beliefs. "people could acknowledge each other's national identities and still maintain mutual respect." Now this quote from you is a bit confusing because frankly, I dont see much respect from you for the opinions of others. In fact, quite the opposite. Maybe a little "practice what you preach" cliche is in order? Speaking only for myself I would not have a problem with chrissys hammer and sickle or your cow horns. There'd be no violence, insults and since communism isnt a race, racial slurs might be totally useless (sort of like asking you to check yourself) but I note that chris has no trouble throwing these things at others. You might want to actually know something about the kind of world I would like to build before you call it sad and horrible and maybe look really, really hard at teh kind you think you want, the one you're leaving behind for people you haven't met.

[seekeronos]

Llama:

I asked the flag question only to point out that most folks have some thing that they use to identify themselves with. Considering how very anti-American Boob/chris pulls himself off to be, (which by the way, I think is more of an affectation he uses to irritate folks here with more than anything else) I figured that there must be something that he holds dear.

Needless to say though... even if it is in some darkly humourous jest, I find his hatred of America - be it real or be it in pretence - to be quite sad.

Unlike you, Wahoo, I really doubt that he has seen first hand how truly fortunate he is that God blessed him with birth as an American citizen.

Of course, much the same can be said for Mr. & Mrs. Obama and their pastor as well.

[William]

It's rare that I get the chance to troll you loser suits, so I do indeed get great joy out of it.

I'll not give you one iota of an idea who I really am, as I have seen too much shit to throw it all away, in order to prove myself to a bunch of fucking has-beens who live in their cushy fucking air conditioned house back home. Goddamn losers reminiscing about how fucking great it all was. Yes, I've seen how this board treats those who are serving.

I'll fucking ring the neck of the next fobbit twit who tells me to embrace the goddamn suck, you were probably one of those DLA beltway clerks in their cushy fucking 3 month deployment. I've fucked that suck all the way through my AO and back, so don't you tell me about it you nilly piece of shit. As for my racism, I'm olive and pink (Before I was white), I stand against the race of greedy warmongers many of you fat doughy pasty white bois represent.

About my re-up, I've two little sisters at home who need to get a better education than I'll ever have, and my fucking alcoholic dad sure as hell ain't gonna do it. My mom's dead and my woman gone, so I've got two priorities right now, my mates and my sisters, the rest of you fuckers get my contempt.

[Fred Beloit]

Hahahha. William. This is a soldier? Try pulling the other leg. He wrote: "I'll not give you one iota of an idea..." After the 1920s at the latest, no soldier in the Army of the United States of America ever used the expression "I'll not..." This is just some poor, goofy college kid, who is the victim of a Liberal, though not liberal, education. I think this kid has also read "What Price Glory" or seen the film. That's probably where he picked up his ideas about soldierly patter. Go back to class and try your luck some other day, William the Bullshitter.

"I've two little sisters at home who need to get a better education than I'll ever have, and my fucking alcoholic dad sure as hell ain't gonna do it. My mom's dead and my woman gone..." What classic horse hockie.

Boo hoo hoo. I'm all alone in this world sacrificing myself for my little sisters. Get the f--- out of here you jive punk.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Fred: you're kindarough on Billy aren't you? "Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?" I'm leaning a littel toward belief myself. He's not STRAC enough to be ABN and didn't take me up on meeting me downtown. He knows acronyms like AO (area of operations) and knows DLA (defense logistics) is full of clerks (mostly civilians) and is "inside the beltway" (Ft Lee, Va) but he drifts from soldier slang, being a proud wigger and exhibiting higher education than he claims to have. Of course he also would know that Montgomery aint paying his po' lil sustahs to go to college and in 6 years ARMY would have paid him to get "a better education" But then he starts the whole "I'm all alone and the only way to support my sisters is too dodge bullets for a living" Again, a dcent ASVAB score and picking a decent MOS, he coulda been a REMF like those 90 day wonders he so distains. I'm awaiting a bit more evidence before passing judgement on dis cat, cuz he can tawk ghetto an' shit, real proud wigger that he is.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

Oh and I've been around the sun 50 odd times and I've never heard a GI refer to his buddies as "mates". I smell Canadian bacon.

[Fred Beloit]

I'll not mention one iota about saving this kid's bacon. He is an ahole of the first water, as all old soldiers say. Not bloody likely, mate. Has he mentioned an MOS? Well, that can be found on the internet.

Cheery bye, m'lard. I'm going to drive off in my stryker lorrie and kill some wogs. Top oh. Shut the bonnet Tommy and we'll take to the high road.

[Fred Beloit]

I've been kind of rough on Willy the BS? Here is young Wee Willy to us:

"...in order to prove myself to a bunch of fucking has-beens who live in their cushy fucking air conditioned house back home. Goddamn losers reminiscing about how fucking great it all was." "...I'll fucking ring the neck of the next fobbit twit who tells me to embrace the goddamn suck..." "...I stand against the race of greedy warmongers many of you fat doughy pasty white bois represent." etc, etc.

Kind of rough on him? If he comes back with more of this insolent and impotent crap, I just may give him the full break-a-brat treatment.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"Kind of rough on him?"

Fred I meant that in the sense that my own jury is still out. It's a shame that he has so little precious time to "get the chance to troll you loser suits." I'm sure that if I were facing sappers in the wire everyday or even at home for a 30, I would certainly be wasting it time blogging. Now, he wasn't smart enough to get a Navy job, slinging hash to swabbies...but "suits" are losers........Well imaginize dat 1 bro.

[seekeronos]

"--- real proud wigger that he is ---"

Sadly, even his talk and his pretense would not save him from being gutted like a catfish were he in the company of black racists who saw the need to target him. Just as much so if he were a college-educated black man with excellent prospects in the unfortunate company of some KKK folks who saw him as being "uppity".

But that's neither here nor there.

If he had a mind to be working solely to put his sisters through college, he'd do so much better to be a Blackwater contractor. Yet his use of such CODE PINKisms as "greedy warmongers" to address us on this site (I'll take a stab in the dark here and say that the bulk of us are not on the Halliburton board of directors, much less shareholders) as I'm seeing no particular financial profit out of this war.

As for the fobbit "twit" (the addition of the "twit" seems to mark it as a British English -ism... I've lived in the UK for a good stretch, and it sounds downright Oxfordian to my ears) remark...

... well, fobbits (base personnel/logisitics/support etc.) they have their place too: the Army has to feed itself and keep itself supplied somehow. Not everyone is called to go out on LRPs, and keeping the men that do go out well stocked in food and ammo just doesn't happen by osmosis.

Of course, he knows this... and is either being disingenuous, or perhaps bitter about not getting the MOS of his choice.

Rather than seeking to better his lot, he has fallen for the Socialist's lies that he is but a helpless victim of "the system", and thus moans bitterly of existence.

[WAHOO WILLIE]

"the addition of the "twit" seems to mark it as a British English -ism"

Dammit man! Here I was raising his station by calling him Canadian now you suspect him to be a limey?! Now I'm certain he is not 82 ABN because limey's are afraid of heights.

[kilo rileyson]

Some moron named harpie does the usual moonbat squeak---off topic and stuck on stupid. [Look--over there!]. Pinhead trolls are a dime a dozen.

God, fuck you, daveinboca. You couldn't be more of an asshole if your name was karlroveinboca.

[seekeronos]

"--- Dammit man! Here I was raising his station by calling him Canadian ---"

I had Canadian Bacon on Texas Toast this morning... completely unrelated to the topic mind you, but I can see how that might have raised his station. That's some good grub to greet the nostrils in the morning.

[templar knight]

The college puke known as William has graced us with another visit, has he? William, embrace the goddam suck. There, I told you, I'll be awaiting my neck wringing, you little bastard, unless, of course, you are the cowardly POS I know you to be.