I'm outraged, shocked and surprised!! Okay, maybe not.
Thanks to Zell Miller, there is a rule to deal with Joe Lieberman.
Lieberman's endorsement of Republican John McCain disqualifies him as a super-delegate to the Democratic National Convention under what is informally known as the Zell Miller rule, according to Democratic State Chairwoman Nancy DiNardo.


"That's the party line, but it was done very shortly after Brown v. Board of Ed."
Yeah I guess two years is pretty close. Is that when Lester got his axe handle? And why were they still throwing stones over it in Boston in the 70s?
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez: | Thursday, February 07, 2008 at 05:12 PM
Boston has come a long way a lot faster than the south, but the whole country has its share of disgrace in terms of racial issues.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, February 07, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Sparty, you make it difficult to dislike you.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez: | Thursday, February 07, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Sparty is smart liberal, he actually (well most of the time) engages his brain before his mouth--erm, typing fingers.
But as for flags, I hold that:
a) The Confederate States of America is at present, not a sovereign nation. Therefore, any flags, symbols or regalia from that time have no legal power and sovereignty to conflict with that of the United States.
b) The various ensigns and military standards (such as the ANV flag) have inherent historical value, and do not in their own right make any claim being sovereign symbols of a foreign nation-state. Nor can they reasonably be said to be representative of a current insurgent movement against the Republic.
c) State sovereignty should be the maximum level of concern where regulations and ordinances regarding the flying of certain flags is concerned, with the sole exception of the handling and precedence of the United States Flag, which should have seniority in precedence and the greatest prestige. Moreover, states have the right to incorporate the Confederate flag or design influences of the Confederate Flag, or any historical military flag or heraldic device formerly in use by the defunct Confederate States, or any parts thereof, within the designs of their respective state flags.
d) The Confederate flag, Confederate Naval Ensign, any of the various battle flags, Bonnie Blue flag, Stars and Bars, etc. etc. and the incorporation of their various design features into modern state flags are part of the heritage of the Southern States, all of which have been re-admitted into the United States, as much as various regional emblems (such as the New England Pine tree, or the State of Texas' use of the "Lone Star" emblem, or the "Great Bear Republic") all express a historic part of those regions and states' heritage of a time when they were independent republics prior to their respective admission to the union as states.
e) It is time consuming and quite tiresome to get into conniptions over which particular rag is on a particular pole on any given day, it is all irrelevant, save only if that rag is particularly offensive, or is a flag of an enemy state during a time of war, or is of such an odious, objectionable and calumnious display so as to provoke people into great violence and public disorder, or it is in conflict or causes conflict with the display of the U.S. flag with the proper honours due it as described in item (c).
Posted by: seekeronos | Friday, February 08, 2008 at 02:45 AM
So according to you it would be ok if the Nazi flag flew over a statehouse? Or how about the flag of the Iraqi Republican guard?
And as far as the 'heritage' argument, I understand it. I also understand that's it's a bit of a red herring. If you ask the avg. flag supporter in the south (and I have) to explain this heritage they can't. The heritage in question relates to only a portion of the people that live there and relates directly to the oppression of anther portion. Something states should never promote or be involved with, they are in the business of representing ALL of the people of their states, not just the white ones.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Friday, February 08, 2008 at 05:11 AM
Spart writes:
"I realize no one is physically hurt by the presence of a flag, but what is the purpose of the flag in question? I would think an uber patriot like yourself would resent the flag of another sovereign nation (in art or in whole) flying over the statehouse of a US state. Isn't that treason?"
No, Spart, none dare call it treason. But some of you do call it insensitive. Yet, oddly, you do not scruple to call me a Y--k, and that IS insensitive. How this ethnic slur cuts to my foolish heart.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, February 08, 2008 at 12:01 PM
"So according to you it would be ok if the Nazi flag flew over a statehouse? Or how about the flag of the Iraqi Republican guard?"
That's a strawman set up by liberals who know damn well that the heritage of the South has had nothing to do with either Germany or Iraq. That's silly, and silly of you to suggest it. I'm from Texas, my ancestors fought in every major battle of the Civil War, from Sharpsburg to Gettysburg, Chattanooga to Franklin, Mark's Mill to Pleasant Grove, all three theatres and all three Southern armies. You have no idea how I, or my brothers, feel about that flag. What I can assure you of is that we don't feel any hatred toward the average black person about it, but I do feel contempt for the race hustlers and baiters like yourself who jump on the bandwagon to assauge your guilt and make yourself somehow feel as if you're fighting evil, when in fact you are the evil ones stirring up hatred and bigotry.
Posted by: templar knight | Friday, February 08, 2008 at 11:41 PM