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Did you get upset when Bill lied about Obama's war record?

Why do you care? You're going to vote against the GOP nominee whether or not he tells the truth. It's not your party anymore anyway.

I was watching and completely criticizing every fucking point McCain was supposedly trouncing on.

A) He does not support closing the borders but rather endorsing the Z-Visa to death. He claims that his bill won't get voted on which is true but he will use his White House executive powers to create a Z-Visa system under ICE and bang on Congress to pass a similar resolution.
B) Romney hasn't support complete withdrawal like Clinton, Obama, or the entire 70's Democrat Party has been banging on. The only Democrats that are opposed to this is the DLC. Now all politicians but McCain wants to scale down the efforts of troops to reduce the burden of our obligations to Iraq in order to focus more on Afghanistan. The other day, the commanding general, Petraeus, is ordering 1/4 of the deployed troops home at the later half of this year. There is a coming conflict in Pakistan and we need to be prepared for that. People completely miss this issue and are not aware since we have most of our troops being renewed on deployment consistently, we won't be able to spare much manpowers to move in troops into Afghanistan or if Musharaff allows us, Pakistan.
C) McCain keeps banging on that "I support the Bush tax cuts" which is a fucking lie. He has never supported the Bush Tax Cuts period. He voted for it later down the road because he didn't want to look like the odd man out. He is completely willing to raise taxes over the American people.
D) The American people is concerned about healthcare which only Romney is having a platform on. Huckabee (No clue as usual) and McCain has stayed away from this topic because they don't want to touch this topic because they can't figure out an alternative system. Huckabee however wants to manage our lifestyle and tell us how we should act as he demonstrated in the Arkansas government.

There's more shit I could rant on but McCain is a complete and fucking liar.

Roy, how do you climb in and out of McCain's ass so fast to comment on all these threads? Now go make him some tea and get him a blanket, he has some senior moments tonight. No doubt we'll be seeing plenty more of them in future, if you watch the Senate on CNN, that is.

Roy Mustang,

Obama's war record clarified by Bill Clinton was pretty spot on. Obama will effectively allow Iraq to become a safe haven and a disastrous reflection on the United States. And he doesn't care for what happens there either because he's no different from the 70's Democrats that sent millions of Vietnamese to their death. The DLC should be the ones in charge of the party, not the DCCC. If Congressman Ford (another black person) was running for the United States Presidency, I will not hesitate to support this man. Harold Ford is a Blue Dog Democrat which has been shunned in the Democratic Party is more aligned with me than I am with Obama hence why I support Republicans instead of the Democrats.

"we won't be able to spare much manpowers to move in troops into Afghanistan"

Can't support too many more troops in Afghanistan than are there anyway. Look at a topo map and the reason will be obvious.

Yoda, bullshit. We had over 50,000 troops in the region but I'm talking about the Air Force capabilities, the Marines capability, etc. Right now, the assets is focused on Iraq. The Air Force will have no problem re-adjusting because of the bases in the area like Doha, Diego Garcia or even as far as Guam for the B-2's but the Marines needs to be refocused on Afghanistan. The blunt of military operations in Iraq has been mostly spearheaded by Marines and they will always spearhead our military operations.

Are you kidding me?? McCain is 100% correct in his statement that Romney supported timetables - read the transcript. Romney is the lying scumbag, parading around as an arch conservative when he governed Massachusetts as a lefty lib. You're a joke to endorse Romney and attack McCain as a liar.

I will have very deep issues if I have to look at McCain's name vs. Obama on the ticket come November.

Because while McCain could very well be the GOP's Jimmah Cartuh of this early part of the century, Obama (who I still strongly suspect to be a closet muzzie) would do irreparable damage to us in Araby and Persia, to say nothing of planting us a possibly irreversible course to Euro-socialism.

Not that my vote matters much in NY state with it being one of the largest liberal fever swamps in the nation.

McCain would be a sitting duck in a debate against Hillary or Obama- his smirkiness and arrogance would really turn off the general public and his obvious lack of any economic knowledge is painfully clear. He's a bad version of Edwards.

"Are you kidding me?? McCain is 100% correct in his statement that Romney supported timetables - read the transcript. Romney is the lying scumbag, parading around as an arch conservative when he governed Massachusetts as a lefty lib. You're a joke to endorse Romney and attack McCain as a liar."

Wrong. Romney was refering to general issues in Iraq like the election timetables. Even President Bush endorsed these same kind of ideas. If you're refering to military timetables, Romney did not endorse those. I suggest you read the fucking transcript. He was a governor in the most liberal state of the Union and he ran it as a fiscal conservative governor which is facts. The Commonwealth held him hostage with their veto overrides capabilities. Romney could not do much and you can't prove this wrong.

Paul Bremer if you remember was in charge of the CPA in Iraq rejected alot of good ideas for the country and look how horrible he managed it. Instead he was replaced and alot of the election ideas went forwarded which *gasp* was praised by President Bush. When did timetable become limited to only military options? Are you saying we shouldn't hold discussions on having the Iraqi Military meeting demands, economic demands, monetary policy demands, or even the Parliamentary demands by the United States? Are you saying you want the complete control of Iraq despite the fact we've been trying to do the hearts and mind of Iraq consistently?

McCain has repeated himself over and over to be a liar and his statements goes in contradiction with his actions. Like hiring "Mexico First" Juan Hernandez who opposes the idea of borders and wants Mexicans to take back their country such as California onto his chief of staff campaign.

Here's on what Romney said about the timetable thing in an interview which Anderson Cooper jumped on McCain for misinterpreting.

"But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement," Romney continued in the interview. "You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone. You want to have a series of things you want to see accomplished in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police, and the leadership of the Iraqi government."

Maybe you should stop drinking that fucking kool-aid from McCain.

Here in Arizona, McCain ranks only 5th in the latest Republican straw poll. McCain has been a worthless US Senator, never did one darn thing for the state and never, ever missed an opportunity to hog television time. A worthless pile of dung he is. Don't be fooled.

Heh. I'd hate to see what the RedState gestapo would have done to me had I lit off an anti-McCain post like Kat just did...

...perhaps they would have given me an outright "blam" instead of the stealth ban I got for politely disagreeing someone who turned out to be a mod. Oops!

(btw, Kat - good follow up on that Andy Cooper item!)

And I'll have serious issues come November if McCain is on ticket. Hmmm, do I vote for someone who despises the GOP or a Democrat? Tough choice.

McCain accused Romney of being for a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq - WHICH IS A LIE.

Sure: Mitt mentioned timetables and milestones in passing during an interview (way back in April), BUT ONLY AS PRIVATE GUIDEPOSTS BETWEEN OUR PRESIDENT AND PM MALIKI. On a follow up question, Romney said he would veto any bill with a timetable. PERIOD.

SO: McCain is a liar. A piece of lying scum. A sack of old tired lying liberal crap.

AND ANOTHER THING: As a businessman I know this very well: to achieve goals - any goals - you must have timetables and mileposts. Otherwise there's NO ACCOUNTABILITY. There is simply no way to keep people on track unless they know they goal and the time-frame. PERIOD. What Mitt said was common sense.

Now, maybe old angry farts who fester in the cloakrooms of the greatest debating club in the world (the US SENATE!) don’t understand that, but that’s the way of the REAL world.

And the real world is a world Romney knows and has mastered far greater than that old angry liberal puke McCain has or ever will.

I will never vote for McCain.

I wouldn’t care if he was running against Eugene V. Debs or Lenin! I wouldn't care if he was running against Teddy or Kerry.
McCain can suck my elbow in Macy's window and he still wouldn't get my vote!

He doesn't even get my vote for favorite Congressman who's a former Vietnam POW - Sam Johnson does.

And a GOP led by McCain... it won't get one freakin' cent from me. Not one. Not a penny.

NOT A FREAKIN' CENTAVO EITHER!

Funny Dan. I love being lectured by a "conservative" that supports the pro-choice, anti-Iraq socialist candidate otherwise known as the freshman senator from Illnois.

Did you like McCain-Feingold? Wait until you see Obama-Feingold.

You lost the right to be self righteous when you started supporting the socialist enemy.

Roy, self righteous would be telling you, "fuck you and the horse you rode in on." Heh.

Why are you so upset with the thought of conseratives not supporting McCain? Agenda please?

I will tell you how bad it is, my democrat husband will cross parties to vote for McCain if Obama is the dem party choice. Should McCain be my only choice as a republican, I will vote no. Kind of like "fuck you and the horse you rode in on Roy."

I'm a died-in-the-wool, lifetime Republican, and if the choice is Obama vs. McCain, I will vot for Obama.

McCain disgusts me with his baldfaced lying. This is not a mistake or misinterpretation. He's just a liar set on doing anything to win. His first wife knows a little about those character flaws, too.

Cindi,

Dan will vote for Obama. A socialist Obama Presidency will harm this country. Dan wants to harm this country because his candidate was not picked as the nominee. Is that the definition of a patriot?

At least McCain has good intentions when he legislates for idoitic bills like the Shamnesty. At least the communist supports of Obama thinks their vote will help America. Hell, even Stormfront thinks they are doing good by voting for Ron Paul. Someone who votes for Obama to harm this country is a vile piece of sh** that doesn't deserve any respect.

Roy - time to get a grip, dude. Calm down around here. And I never said I was voting for him. I endorsed him as the better man on his side. Besides, last time I looked, who people vote for is their own business in America. Or will McCain do away with that right, just as he has stripped the 1st Amendment? When you start talking about "defending America," it'd be a good idea if you thought about what that really means, besides just bullets and grenades.

AMEN AMEN and AMEN! I can't stand McCain after last night's debate. Romney was dead on. Who throws a lie out just prior to a primary election before he can defend his stand? A Washington POLITICIAN. McCain is EXACTLY the oppose of what change is. Romney made it very clear what his vote was and even said "NO" to timetables in the very next question he was asked.

As Romney said, even the CNN Correspondents called McCain on it and said he was WRONG *BEFORE* the debate. What more evidence do you need? If McCain really is playing off to be that unintelligible and can't understand what's being said, then how can he be a president?

Everyone's talking about change - I don't see anything different about McCain and Washington as it stands now.

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