Is Hillary Toast?

Hillary isn't yet crispy around the edges, okay, perhaps she is, but her campaign is still viable. However, there are some ominous signs. Tonight's debates could be make or break and a new format for part of the debate might not work to her advantage.

She was booed at a Democrat dinner, though I wouldn't read too much into that. More troubling is a down tick in a New Hampshire poll, half of it done before her significant Iowa loss. This new post-Iowa poll from Rasmussen is even worse - Obama over Hillary by ten?? I'll wait for more polls to see if this is an outlier, or a trend.

But her biggest problem could be this:

How Mr. Obama’s early triumph will play out in the presidential contest remains to be seen, and his support among blacks is hardly monolithic.

But in dozens of interviews on Friday from suburbs of Houston to towns outside Chicago and rural byways near Birmingham, Ala., African-Americans voiced pride and amazement over his victory on Thursday and the message it sent, even if they were not planning to vote for him or were skeptical that he could win in November.

Her pathetic smear against Republicans in DC for a plantation mentality aside, the Clintons have always treated and counted on Black voters as though they were down on some plantation. If Black voters wake up and realize that Obama, more than the Clintons, can do significantly more for race relations in America than the Clintons ever have - she is, indeed, toast. If the Black vote deserts Hillary in any meaningful manner, she's done. And South Carolina would demonstrate it in a big way, making it major news.

If she loses or even ties Obama in New Hampshire and loses big in South Carolina based upon the Black vote and that's the story after wards, she has major problems on Super Tuesday as states with large Black urban populations get to weigh in.

The debate format by ABC tonight includes a 45 minute round table discussion designed more for candidate interaction, than moderator control. If Obama bests her, and he could, all of Bill's horses and all of Bill's men may not be able to put Hillary's campaign back together, again.

Wouldn't that be a fairy tale come true for Republicans anxious to see her lose?

Comments

[Brent Logan]

I'd rather see Hillary lose in the general election than in the primaries or just a debate. I think Obama would be harder to beat in the general election.

[Techie]

If there were an alternating Presidency, and we had no choice but have a Dem as the next President, I'd take Obama over Clinton in a heartbeat. I'm far less worried about an empty suit than a power-hungry "any means to an end" sleaze.

Did Scotland prefer Duncan or MacBeth?

[TheSpartan]

Obama is proving to have the ability to mobilize large groups of people who don't traditionally vote. That should terrify the GOP.

[Wahoo WIllie Sez:]

DaSpatan sez: "Obama is proving to have the ability to mobilize large groups of people who don't traditionally vote.That should terrify the GOP." Again, you partisans are soooo willing to call this race while the ponies tails are still in the gate. Sparty baby, I refer you to Techie's observation: "I'd take Obama over Clinton in a heartbeat. I'm far less worried about an empty suit than a power-hungry "any means to an end" sleaze." You see, it is the demonrats who have kept black folk on the plantation since the sixties. It is afterall the demonrats who are sure (and tell us)that blacks are incapable of leadership, etc without thier help. So here comes Obama, a demonrat they cannot call Uncle Tom like they insulted Condi Rice. If he's elected. Great BIG ole planks drop from the traditional demonrat platform. They now must chose to work with him or to TRY to treat him like a token......the latter wont work. There's nothing scary here. Scary wears a pantsuit. This is going to be fun!!
Again about numbers...How many Indies like me plan to vote for Obama just to get to vote AGAINST the Hidabeast twice?

[DonnaInMichigan]

My top ten list:

Hillary will not be the Democratic Nominee:

10. She doesn't have the charisma of Bill Clinton
09. She is used to winning elections, when there is no opposing candidate
08. She never answers the tough questions, or any question proposed to her, just basically turns it into another Bush Bash.
07. She has yet to answer what that "35 years Experience" consist of. Except of course being the wife of Bill. And taking tax-payer funded trips to Europe (with Chelsea)..at the expense of $50,000+
06. Bill Clinton, in his stump speeches supposedly for his wife, has the "I" factor going on. He never states exactly what SHE has accomplished. They need to remind him HE isn't running for office.
05. Internet, Cable News, and Talk Radio. She is used to the liberal networks courting her and her husband, and reporting ONLY what they were TOLD to report.
04. The majority of the public want CHANGE. She's living in the past.
03. The public is wary, of all the scandals these two brought to the Oval Office.
02. She can't run on her being the first female BLACK president, when Obama is another candidate for the POTUS...

And my number 1 reason WHY she won't get the nomination....

Bill Clinton is no longer President, like he was when she was running for the Senate the first time, and that he has absolutely no power in promising anything to anyone, like bribing VOTES for PARDONS!