While Hillary may have had a point or two in the video below, working on legislation with a number of others isn't exactly the grand theme of change a President wants to portray his or her self as being able to make. It didn't help that Edwards had already painted Hillary as the "status quo." The theme of the divisive Clinton years was a sub-plot during a portion of the Democrat debate tonight.
Hillary didn't much care for it and became angry. It appeared to me to have played worse live, than it does in the video. But I'm still not sure it will do her much harm, or good. Voters, especially males, may find themselves reflecting back on their Mother going on and on about cleaning up their room, or telling them what it is they cannot do. What do you think?


I thought it looked like she was just calling him out on his b.s.
Silky had just finished boring everyone to tears with his dopey, mindless platitudes about "change", and she responded in a "not suffering fools gladly" sort of way.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I don't get the big hubbub over it.
Posted by: Nice Deb | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 01:57 AM
To me the back to back debates tonight should have been reversed.
They had the adults on and the children came next (at a couple of points Hill looked like it was past her bed time)
Posted by: JustADude | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 02:21 AM
Outside of any thing Paul said, to me the most clueless moment of the night was when Obama said the Anbar Awakening was caused by the dems midterm victories.
NOT that it might of sorta happened because family and friends were getting butchered by AQ and car bombed and such.
Nah they just wanted to get on the Dems on a roll bandwagon.
We had a debate party here tonight and when he made that statement about 20 nerf balls hit my monster plasma screen in the home theater room and I had to restrain one for digging out a paint ball gun.
Posted by: JustADude | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 02:28 AM
The guy with the paint ball urge had served two tours in Anbar, so he's a bit partial about it.
Posted by: JustADude | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 02:29 AM
Yawn. All I know is that if the mouth-breathers and Huckleberry get the nod Kuchinich could become President.
Posted by: BobInStamford | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 08:47 AM
How many times did herthighness say "change?" If anyone had a drinking game for that word I'm guessing they're all still asleep and will have one hell of a hangover.
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 09:27 AM
"I am in favor of change. I changed things in Anbar by causing the Dem victories in the last election. If we had had a few more pacifists elected in that election, al qaeda would have surrendered everywhere. I changed other things that needed changing. I have changed everything around me for thirty-five years. Why I participated by serving on a committee to study change. I intend to change everything including the nature of change. I am going to make change permanent and irrevocable when I'm president. I'm going to stabilize change."
Yesterday or the day before Obama said he and his supporters would change "America and then change the world".
This is really, really funny stuff. What is scary is that some folks think this stuff is serious business. I mean the election IS serious, but this commitment to CHANGE is like the commitment to HOPE. These commitments are meaningless.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 10:13 AM
" I hope we can change. Changing from less hope to more hope is needed change. I want to change hope from a passive to an active state. I want to hope for change to go from passive voice to active voice. I, I will stand here before you, a changed and changing person. Yes, before your very eyes. A sort of changeling. I hope I CAN change. I know with your hopeful help we can all change from hope to change and back again. Thank you."
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 10:22 AM
"This is really, really funny stuff. What is scary is that some folks think this stuff is serious business." But reverting to adolescence remembering how mean your Mommy was when she tried to get you to straighten up your room or otherwise behave and how much Sen. Clinton is like your mean Mommy? Now, *that's* serious.
Posted by: Bill | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Well, well, a new sock-puppet troll. Welcome to the party.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 11:38 AM
What's with the primary color scheme - red/blue/green was all I saw whenever I saw hilldabeast.
Posted by: Ken | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Outside of any thing Paul said, to me the most clueless moment of the night was when Obama said the Anbar Awakening was caused by the dems midterm victories.
NOT that it might of sorta happened because family and friends were getting butchered by AQ and car bombed and such.
Nah they just wanted to get on the Dems on a roll bandwagon.
We had a debate party here tonight and when he made that statement about 20 nerf balls hit my monster plasma screen in the home theater room and I had to restrain one for digging out a paint ball gun.
Posted by: JustADude | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 02:28 AM
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You're clearly not just a dude but someone who is well informed as are your party goers. If a Republican spouted a whopper like Obama it would be front page news.
As for the video of Hillary I don't like the scold but her points were very legitimate and well made. That attractive but empty suit is going to drive her to distraction if he wins New Hampshire. Let's hope he does and that he not revealed as the foreign policy naif that he is until after he's confirmed.
Posted by: Terry Gain | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 12:50 PM
"--- Yawn. All I know is that if the mouth-breathers and Huckleberry get the nod Kuchinich could become President. ---"
Not that I care much for Huckabee, I see that your complete and utter hatred for God and Christianity really show like maggots on rotten meat, Bob.
Not to mention your idiotic train of thought. Kucinich hasn't got a prayer - he's as far out of reality as well as the probability of a nomination as Ron Paul is.
Posted by: seekeronos | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 05:31 PM
Don't be so hard on boob. he managed to get through a whole post without referring to "the brown people".
Posted by: Terry Gain | Sunday, January 06, 2008 at 06:36 PM