A Drudge Intrigue: Is Hillary Dropping Out?

Just as I finished writing about how Hillary is not done, Drudge shines the flashing light with some interesting verbiage. Note that it uses the plural "campaigns." It also cites Carville. One cannot be re-born until you die. What better way to do it than to plant the story of your demise, eventually pinning it on the underhanded dealings of a presumably noble competitor's campaign? Nothing like sucking the wind out of your competitions headline grabbing success with a staged funeral that doesn't take place. I don't buy it at all.

TALK OF HILLARY EXIT ENGULFS CAMPAIGNS
Mon Jan 07 2008 09:46:28 ET

Facing a double-digit defeat in New Hampshire, a sudden collapse in national polls and an expected fund-raising drought, Senator Hillary Clinton is preparing for a tough decision: Does she get out of the race? And when?!

"She can't take multiple double-digit losses in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada," laments one top campaign insider. "If she gets too badly embarrassed, it will really harm her. She doesn't want the Clinton brand to be damaged with back-to-back-to-back defeats."

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Key players in Clinton's inner circle are said to be split. James Carville is urging her to fight it out through at least February and Super Tuesday, where she has a shot at thwarting Barack Obama in a big state. But others close to the former first lady now see no possible road to victory, sources claim.

Comments

[jp]

You are right to doubt the story. Hillary is like the bad guy in every horror movie. When you think you are safe, they rise up, pull the knife out of their chest, and go on with their rampage! While the audience is screaming "Watch out!"

They are setting the scene for "comeback kid Hillary"

[phil]

Wait, you are taking information from Matt Drudge? This guy broke the "story" on Bill Clinton and Monica and is
a professional Clinton hater and U believe this gay asshole?
Matt Drudge wants Obama to get the nod as he is convinced that White America will NOT elect a black man
and then we can get another term by a Bush clone.

[mike]

How about this:

Vote Edwards.

Then you'll have a smart, good-looking, southern-based, progressive, anglo policy wonk who'll mop the floor with any Republican opponent.

Edwards.

[Fred Beloit]

I can't see this as a serious story this early in the game. Bill C. was comeback kid, wasn't he? I do not believe she will throw in the towel this soon.

[SC&A]

Hillary stays, no matter what. There's too much money out there to leave behind.

Of course, one could make the same argument in speaking of why she might cut and run. She has a history of leaving with that which is not hers.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

"Then you'll have a smart, good-looking, southern-based, progressive, anglo policy wonk."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's the funniest line of BS I have seen since Dukakis driving a tank! Well maybe Jimmy getting nuclear proliferation advice from his buck toothed kid was funnier.

[Scrapiron]

Careful Wahoo Willie, someone on here want to be under the desk (replacing Monica) with Silky in the chair.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Yeah Scrapiron, you may be right. I hope whoever it is is poor though so Edwards will be comfy. He's used to making his living off the poor you know.

[Josh]

Wahoo Willie...You have no credibility.

Wow, so you're saying a Poor American who educates himself and raises himself up by his boot straps to go on and LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM is a bad guy because he's wealthy?

I find it amazing that the conservative know nothings bash Americans who worked hard, and became self-made men, vs. rich punks who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth; I mean, c'mon...13 million dollars in your daddy's stock while you're just in Little League?

You have no credibility.

And then ignore Bush, in favor of bashing Edwards? How ignorant.

Wow...so much for "republican BS about the American Dream." You can only live it if you're born into it; i.e. the bushes.

Nothing really bad can be said about Edwards; so they latch on to $400 haircuts (um, wait, how much was Romney's recently? yea, that's what I thought). Good luck with that.

And, oh yea, Hils is not dropping out; she has the majority of the delegates so far. Check it out.

[josh]

Oh yea, Wahoo Willie...

I thought the funniest thing was seeing bush wearing a Flight suit, stepping out of a Jet that he wasn't flying, with a big, propaganda banner proclaimign "Mission Accomplished"

HAHAHAHAHA! Now THAT, sir, was funny.

[GMax]

Nothing really bad can be said about Edwards;

PLEASE STOP with the comedy, I have tears in my ears and my sides ache from the laughter!

[Ron]

That "dark horse" is looking mighty pale to the Republicans, ain't he? Watch'em start counting the the "plagues". C'ya George--and buddies!

[seekeronos]

I find no more fault with Edwards' making wealth, aside from the manner in which he chose to make said wealth may be at best questioned, in light of his sudden spurt of populism.

I do take issue with that his so-called populism and desire to dismantle American corporate growth, when he lavishes himself with his earnings in a manner that would make a Russian Tsar ... or more recently, a high ranking member of the Soviet Nomenklatura (communist party élites) blush.

But then, there's this guy's supporters who like to swipe campaign signs... if this particular candidate were indeed the Second Coming of Reagan, why do his supporters stoop to tactics that not even Ron Paulians would try?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpmbHvX9KtY

[Bandit]

a professional Clinton hater and U believe this gay asshole?
Matt Drudge wants Obama to get the nod as he is convinced that White America will NOT elect a black man You're calling someone else a hater? Gotta mirror?

[rwilymz]

"a smart, good-looking, southern-based, progressive, anglo policy wonk who'll mop the floor with any Republican opponent."

Smart: define your terms. It seems that you are confusing being the ATLA water-boy == brains.

Good-looking: insofar as that goes ...

Progressive: i.e., touting a political policy line which has demonstrably become regressive in recent decades, sure; advocating "progress", BZZZZZT. Well, unless "progress" means carrying the ATLA water pail ...

And I have a feeling that Edwards is a less-viable gen-el candidate than Hillary is.

"I find it amazing that [you] bash Americans who worked hard, and became self-made men, vs. rich punks who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth"

Taken like this, it's hard to tell whether you're complaining about the hard-working Ron Paul versus the silver-spooned Kennedy clan, or what.

"Nothing really bad can be said about Edwards"

ATLA.

"so they latch on to $400 haircuts"

That too. Ostentation in the guy who serves the poor is one of the better ways to demonstrate that philosophy, ainnit?

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Geeze Joshie, You're an angry little kid aren't you? First off, the break girl was NEVER 'poor'. He has no concept of the word and daddy paid for his law degree, not himself. I realize that most Amureecams have no idea how people like Edwards get into 28 thousand square foot homes by suing the "big, greedy corporations" Most people have never been involved in a class action suit in thier lives. And frankly Joshie, I've a feeling that you dont have enough "life" behind you to understand this. Edwards and his ilk sue corporations, get multi-million dollar settlements which they take 60% or more of while the people they are "standing up for" usually working poor and barely literate SPLIT the remainder. That's why the ambulance chasers have TV commercials wanting you to call if you ever saw a Joe Camel ad over someones shoulder while riding a bus. They get a big ole check for half a million and you get one for 60 bucks......cuz they're looking out for you. Edwards is an elitist snob who steals as much from the poor as the "rich". Which is why he has tried his best to have his working class nieghbor's property condemned because it detracts from the value of his 28 thousand square foot mansion. Now, I don't really have a problem with how he makes his money or that he lives in a mansion while his brother lives in a double wide. My problem is with him....or the rest of his kind....lying about how they got where they are and trying thier damndest to keep me from getting there. I mean really, who the hell do these people think they are???? How can they so easily fool kids like you?
Oh and Joshie...I'm not a republican.....See I want them ALL, both parties out of my pocket and out of my way. Maybe when you actually start paying half your income to people like Mr Edwards. You too will join those of us who are fed up with these partisan assholes who steal our money and make lettuce pickers of our youth.

[Fred Beloit]

Wahoo, you have no credibility. You know why? Because you have no credibility. Credibility is what you lack. Know why? 'cause you are lacking in credibility. That's why.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Fred; It's probably because I cut my own hair...........what's left of it.

[Fred Beloit]

I wish you would cut mine too. I'm tired of paying $400 a clip.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Wonder what Joshie would say if he knew Edwards voted in favor of the Patriot Act.

[Fred Beloit]

He would say: "Wahoo Willie, you lack credibility."

[seekeronos]

I bet Mrs. Snarky Doucher would also agree that Wahoo Willie is lacking in credibility, because, you know... all Wahoos lack credibility.

Its like one of those tautology thingies, don'tcha y'know.

[Senior WaPo Reporto Clappers]

This just in from the WaPo:

"Anonymous Internet Doofus claims that a Wahoo Willie has no credibility, thus proving that all Wahoo Willies are incredible!".

Film at eleven.

[Philip McDaniel]

"Wahoo, you have no credibility. You know why? Because you have no credibility. Credibility is what you lack. Know why? 'cause you are lacking in credibility. That's why."
"Fred; It's probably because I cut my own hair...........what's left of it."

LOL!
By the way, I see Hillary broke down in tears: "Her voice breaking and tears in her eyes, she said, "You know, this is very personal for me. It's not just political it's not just public.."
Aw, gee. What a shame. Let's all get together and vote for her. Two or three times. Today.

[rwilymz]

"Tautology" - the science of leaving yourself enough rope to hang yourself by?

[Fred Beloit]

I suppose rejection is always personal. One should consider these things before deciding to run for office. There is always at least one rejectee. After careful consideration, I concluded it would be me every time; so I never ran. Boo hoo.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

"Tautology" - the science of leaving yourself enough rope to hang yourself by?"
Well, it's been a while. I mean Socrates was ill, but still around. But if I remember correctly. You would have enough rope but it would be in a circle and therefore pretty much useless for hanging oneself. I know little of credible though I did help replace Johnny Ried with Richard Burr and proximity do help one know a bit more about a person than someone infatuated with a haircut and constantly blinking eyes.... So I may not be credible but I am incredulous that anyone would take this faux populist for anything more than an opportunist. I now throw myself on the mercy of the court.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Now who made "the girl" cry this time????

[Fred Beloit]

Wonder if rwily ever ran. Probably not. His unscrupulous opponent (that's what all political opponents are, unscrupulous) might have accused him of being a cat liker.

[seekeronos]

a CAT liker?

or a Cat LICKER?

Both are grave evils which must be...

*ahem*

... thoroughly licked.

[Fred Beloit]

I thought cats were kind of self-licking critters, like, oh I don't know, the Boob.

[seekeronos]

*shudder*

Thanks for that awful visual of HairyBoob licking himself. Ya'll pardon me while I go see if I can find a less disturbing image to fix on, like ... say, a cat hacking up a hairball.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

"all Wahoo Willies are incredible."
I must admit that my friend Willie makes this blackened grouper with a lime sauce. Yep, he's incredible. Bless his little Jamaican heart.

[seekeronos]

Sounds delish... I might have to pop on in and see the Real Wahoo Willie and try the delish fish dish for me'self.

Were it not for my trip to Japan this week, I would be in Confederate territory helping the Fred! in SC... but finances and time are not on my side this time.... alas.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Seeker, It costs less to go from NY to SC than from NY to Japan. I can only blame public schools.

[gatorboy]

First of all, Edwards is not a class action lawyer who takes his 60% and leaves the poor with $60. If you check the following website you will finally have a clue what you are talking about. Second, Edwards is second only to Kucinich in his progressive views. Those two are the only ones who really understand that it ain't religion or fearmongering that is killing this country, it is corporatism -- or as Benito Mussolini called it, Facism. http://news.findlaw.com/newsmakers/john.edwards.html

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

gatorboy; Look up proximity. I don't need to read your little link or other propaganda

[rwilymz]

"a CAT liker? or a Cat LICKER?"

Cats only provide a barely rudimentary capacity for attracting actual affection; that said, we have two. One in, one out. The one out is a worker and is required to keep down the mice in the barn. As payment, she can have the odd bird.

The one in is a slug-a-bed and I find myself silently rooting for their naturally short mortality.

Insofar as "cat" is euphamised, as often as possible.

"If you check the following website you will finally have a clue what you are talking about."

Right. Because personal injuries loyyers are so-o-o-o-o much better.

"Edwards is second only to Kucinich in his progressive views"

Denny K is a Grade-A nincompoop. If you're trying to claim Edwards is merely Grade-B, I don't think there'd be much dissent.

"it ain't religion or fearmongering that is killing this country, it is corporatism"

Right. The one thing which seeks to intervene between outright governmental control of the population and provide for both material prosperity AND a significantly more reactive governing structure.

Isn't it ironic that the 20th century's quintessential fascist called "corporatism" fascism? It got in his way.

Take a lesson.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Oh goatboy: I will give Johnny Reid credit for one thing. When he found out he was working for thugs who sold bad mortgages to people who could not afford them. He did take his own money and start a fund to help keep people from being thrown in the streets.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

rwilymz: Just so you know, though I imagine you do, the goatboy remark was a play on gatorboy and in no way intended as a remark toward anyone's hobby farming pursuits.

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

Um, Edwards wasn't a class action attorney. I wonder if anyone could provide any evidence that he ever entered into any unlawful or unethical fee arrangement with any of his clients. Ever. Like, one time.

[seekeronos]

"--- It costs less to go from NY to SC than from NY to Japan ---"

This is so true.

I reckon about $150 for a rental car and maybe $600 or so for gas (rough guess, to include time spent driving in SC) or a flight to Charleston or Columbia ($200~300-ish) plus rental car ($150) plus gas ($50~100-ish). Or the ole' GreyHound Special ($150-ish) if my back somehow held up to them torture racks erm, *seats* in them buses.

For Japan, an extreme budget flight for the neighborhood of $500-600 can be had with multiple layovers and the non-service typical of every domestic flight here in the US... but for me, the $1100-ish I spent to get there is money well spent (although this is taking into account that I am spoiling myself by flying directly with Japan Airlines... I will never fly an American or Canadian (Air Canada *hack*ptui!*) carrier for 17 hours ever again.

Moreover, I am going to join my wife and baby boy (well, not so much baby anymore) are presently over there enjoying the Japanese New Year and her brother's wedding among other things; a pesky little thing called work kept getting in my way, but I've managed to carve out a couple of weeks to visit the relatives back in the Japanese Empire, as well as enjoy some of the best dang sushi that was ever carved from the side of a 100kg. tuna.

Tanaka-sensei (a master sushi-ya) who has been practicing her craft for the better part of nearly 90 years will have plates full of the best cuts of mushiana - a fabulously delectable type of eel native to the Setōnaikai/Inland Sea - and super fatty Tuna Belly (Ōtoro) along with arguably the best fatty salmon (Sake-Ōtoro)... Kirin Lager, and possibly some Satsuma Potato Shōchu, if the relatives from that part of the country sent it up.

Almost as much fun as seeing the in laws, hitting a night of the Kansai region's sushi (if not the best in Japan) and maybe a close third of the hot springs near the Arima mountains is about hog heaven for me.

A few more days, and boy, I cannot wait. :)

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

From Wickipedia: "Edwards sued the American Red Cross three times, alleging transmission of AIDS through tainted blood products, resulting in a confidential settlement each time."

That would be a class action.

No one ever implied the man did anything illegal. (legality has NOTHING to do with right/wrong) and "ethics" are a matter of perspective, like logic.

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

Seek: I got to go to Tokyo once from Bangkok then to Seattle to Savannah courtesy of the Air Force. Didn't get much time in Japan but after 9 months in Siam, I couldn't have cared less. Id like to go back sometime.

[CLASSIFIDE]

I wouldn't blame her for withdrawing. She has been betrayed by the people who she has dedicated her life to defending. Obama is the biggest traitor of them all. What does that say about his presidency should he win the general election? Obama is out for Obama and Obama only. The year of Obama will go down as the year of infamey, the year of the traitor.

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

Wrong. Suing three times isn't a class action. Suing three times is ... suing three times. Do you even know what a class action is? How they work?

Ah, so there is no accusation of Edwards charging unlawful fees, nor a suggestion that Edwards violated ethical standards. Yet somehow something "wrong" was done vis-a-vis his fee arrangements. In what case did Edwards' fee arrangement constitute "wrong doing" of any kind? What was the fee arrangement and why was it "wrong"?

[Wahoo Willie Sez:]

I wont argue symantics with you. Why is it wrong? No one here said it was wrong, unless I'm missing something. What is wrong, in my opinion, is for you to tell me that I am wrong from charging a fifty percent margin of profit for my product, when you charge the same for yours.It is wrong, in my opinion, for you to tell me that my pick up is destroying the environment, when your house uses more fossil fuel in a week that I do in a year. In short, it is my opinion that you have no right to claim to be an advocate of the poor, etc when you live like a king and do all you can to keep me from living like a prince. Legal or lawful has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with right/wrong.

[Philip McDaniel]

"She has been betrayed by the people who she has dedicated her life to defending...The year of Obama will go down as the year of infamey, the year of the traitor."
??? What's up with that, CLASSIFIDE? Come on, say it out loudly and clearly so we can all hear what a racist thinks.

[Fred Beloit]

Oh my gosh, has it finally, at last (they kind of mean the same thing when you get right down to it) come to this? Treachery in the formerly smoke-filled room? Madame R-C was b-e-t-r-a-y-e-d? By Mr. Obama? Scoundrel, jackanapes, peacock, rake, mountebank, candidate (they also kind of mean the same thing when you finally, at last get right down to it).

[Totally Heterosexual Conservative]

Ah, someone who has acheived wealth can not be an advocate for the poor. Got it. Irrelevant to my questions, of course.

You said that Edwards was involved in class action work.

He was not. You don't know what a class action is.

You said "Edwards and his ilk sue corporations, get multi-million dollar settlements which they take 60% or more of while the people they are 'standing up for' usually working poor and barely literate SPLIT the remainder." The implication being that he did something "wrong."

When? What case? Prove it.