Nice Guys? Right - Try Losers
Via HotAir headlines to Ace it seems there's some discussion of this post by Dr. Helen on what happened to nice guys. Allow me to weigh in as "not a nice guy." Get over it, losers. That nice guy crap is just the way you get in the door. Once you do that, if you aren't hitting it by the end of the week, you move on. You might even end up in a good relationship if you're lucky. Stop whining and get in the freaking game.


It's too bad this post didn't come quickly enough to save Stephen den Beste...
Posted by: scarshapedstar | Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 06:22 PM
Pop psychology holdes that genuine "nice" guys (and gals) do tend to finish last, or certainly, nowhere near the front of the line.
It takes a certain amount of that "alpha male"/Type-A personality to truly have the drive to be successful in an otherwise mercenary dog-eat-dog world.
Alpha women are genetically primed to seek the spermatozoa from those most aggressive and successful males, and then to seek the omega or epsilon males who are the better nurturer/caregiver males.
On the other hand, consider that humanity as a whole is generally inclined toward being evil and wicked, and that the "nice" guy (or gal) who puts other people in front of themselves is either a rarity - or just possibly might be a person redeemed by and living in the grace of Christ and by the light of His Word.
God never intended for the male/female relationship to be such a minefield of spiritual and emotional damage.
Posted by: seeekeronos | Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 09:15 PM
Dan,
"...if you aren't hitting it by the end of the week, you move on." Do you move on if you're just getting great head?
Posted by: Phoenix | Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 11:18 PM
"great ..."
Never! LOL
Posted by: Dan Riehl | Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Dan,
You and Ace should start a Romance Recommendation Column. Let's practice.
Dear Dan and Ace,
My boyfriend said going down on me is like licking honey off the back of the tiniest, rose-enameled demitasse spoon. Not a spoon, no spoon has that softness, that thick, soft, bite-me quality.
My question is here: What is a demitasse spoon?
Thank you,
Phoenix
Posted by: Phoenix | Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Pft, I love those type losers: never change guys!
As someone with an infinite capacity to face rejection and a firm belief in the law of averages, I never hesitate to approach a beautiful woman and at least give it a shot. Sure, I get shot down 99% of the time: but if I approach 500 women in a given month...
Posted by: docweasel | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 02:53 AM
I spot a an interesting trend here:
In a modern society where we have populations measured in billions and cities with several millions of possible mates and internet dating and an abundance of dive bars... docweasel's shotgun approach might have a nice return, if not for looking for a relationship or a "friends with privileges", then for the one night stand.
Much different from several generations ago when there was much courtship and dating and even input and interest from extended family into the prospective mating game.
And then as far back as a couple of centuries ago, where arranged marriages that were managed for the sake of maintaining or upgrading social class standing much more so than the personal tastes of the couple to be married were still quite the norm for a much more agrarian culture.
Ah, the changing times.
Posted by: seekeronos | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 10:04 AM
One further piece of advice:
If you're going to be a prick, be a prick.
If you're going to be a nice guy, be a nice guy.
Mixing the two is a recipe for disaster.
If the little head is doing your thinking for you, don't weaken: get in, get off, get out.
Mixing that philosphy with any hint of caring is the way to a personal life that mimics daytime TV.
DAMHIK.
Posted by: bud | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Dang, Doc,
What's a 'whiny ass titty baby' supposed to do if he doesn't have your cojones?
500 girls a month = 16.6 girls a day. (Assuming you don't take Sundays off.) Doc, do you have a job? How about sharing some of your opening lines for the cojones-impaired. Also, are you discerning to the point you avoid any chick who doesn't have "It" or do you just go for the possibility of moist?
Posted by: Phoenix | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Chico Marx to Tallulah Bankhead on their first meeting at a party: "I want to xxxx you." Talula replied: "And soon you will, you sweet old fashioned boy."
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 12:32 PM
The meek shall inherit the earth - measuring about six feet by three feet.
Put another way: "The meek might inherit the earth, but only after the strong are finished with it."
Posted by: Drumwaster | Friday, December 14, 2007 at 03:20 PM
Phoenix: it was kind of a metaphor wrapped in an analogy and covered over with a delicious hyperbole sauce. Also re: seek.
I don't do it so I can rack up points on the big "pussy scoreboard in the sky", I couldn't even if I wanted to. I don't claim to have "Mystery" like chops in that regard. I'm talking about dating someone and sometimes eventually ending up in a relationship with them. If I see a girl I think is attractive and looks like fun, I go chat her up, regardless. Of course I don't do 500 a month, the point is, you take the chance (or the opportunity) when it arises. Don't pussy foot around.
The best advice I ever got about that was don't walk into a party or a bar and then spend the next 45 mins or an hour skulking about, working up nerve to talk to some girl and looking at her furtively trying to establish eye contact. Its creepy. Go up and talk to her and find out where you stand. If you're out, fine, move on. But take the shot and don't be a wimp.
THe numbers thing in my comment is a diversion: the point is, when you see an opportunity, take it, damn the consequences.
Dan, re: the "one week" thing:
Every one of the girls with whom I've had a long term relationship, I met, we went back to her or my place, and then ended up moving in together, right away. I've never really done the 'courtship' thing. And in almost every case it was a girl I took the pains to chat up, sometimes after subtle encouragement from the girl.
You can surmise either I've really hit it off with a "love at first sight" thing with all my ex-gfs, or that I'm attracted to sluts (and am one myself?)
Posted by: docweasel | Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 03:06 AM
Looking for 18 year old girls and boys (the younger you look the better) for adult film work.
Can pay a small fee - send you details to
92 Mount Pleasant Road, Bedworth, CV12 8HD, UK.
or call Les on 02476731302
Posted by: les | Friday, December 28, 2007 at 06:13 AM