Okay, Huckabee didn't say he was making stuff up. He just did it. And thanks to the Internet it can be checked. Huckabee was going after Romney with this: suggesting he was simply spending advertising money on the state, but not getting to know it on the ground.
Noting that he is being heavily outspent by Romney, Huckabee said he expected that "sometime between now and the caucuses, I'll probably be accused of kidnapping the Lindberg baby and being accused in the assassination of JFK."
But Huckabee said Iowans can prove that even though someone might have plenty of campaign cash, "You also can't buy the people of Iowa." If he wins the state, Huckabee said, "There won't ever be any doubt again about whether or not the Iowa caucuses matter, or whether Iowa matters and whether future presidential candidates had better come and put their roots deep in the ground in Iowa."
The Des Moines Register tracks candidate visits and also provides a map. I saved you the addition but the numbers are in columns, feel free to check them if you want.
Huckabee: 93 visits to Iowa
Romney: 119 visits to Iowa
Romney has spent about 25% more time on the ground in Iowa than Huckabee. It would seem to me if the people of Iowa want to make a statement as to the importance of putting "roots deep in the ground in Iowa," they'd vote for Romney, not Huck.


Making stats work for your argument Dan? The only thing you refer to is number of visits but there is no reference made to the duration of those visits.
You may go to Washington DC 20 times in a year and stay one day, whereas I might go 5 times and spend a week to 10 days each time. Which of us has spent more time in DC?
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Not only that, Romney has been campaigning in states Huckabee has never set foot in. Huckabee is completely devoted to Iowa and only Iowa, Romney is trying to win every state.
Posted by: Carolina | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 09:50 AM
Buy used car from Huck, I would not.
Posted by: Yoda | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 11:11 AM
Would you buy a used car from any of them?
Guiliani would tell you he repaired the car himself
Romney would tell you it wasn't really a car...then he'd tell you it was
Thompson wouldn't tell you anything about the car (his wife would do all the talking)
McCain would tell you all about when the car was invented.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Well... on the Dems side we have:
Hillary: who would buy you a crapily-made car using your taxed money at 80% of your income
Obama: who would try to convince you the car has no Islamic baggage in the trunk
Breck Boy: Who would warn you about the erm... sperm deposits located throughtout the upholstery
and for teh winnah:
Algore: who would not only sell you the car, but also tell you he INVENTED the highway it rides on.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Wait, so I'm off base on flip-flops by Thompson in '94 but because Obama went to a school that might have had some slight muslim teachings involved he's got "Islamic Baggage"?
Man, I'm surprised you're not more supportive of Dan's Huckabee rants.
Oh, BTW Gore never said he invented the internet. What he did do was facilitate the growth of the internet by pushing government agencies to create a web presence while he was VP. Clearly he was way off base with that one.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 12:41 PM
"--- Wait, so I'm off base on flip-flops by Thompson in '94 but because Obama went to a school that might have had some slight muslim teachings involved he's got 'Islamic Baggage'? ---"
Yup. You are. Longer response pending Dan's spam filter not being gimpy.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:44 PM
For starters, please consider that most madrassahs are suffused within and throughout with Islamist doctrines. They are Islamist schools servicing Islamist culture, teaching Islamist memes (such as the supremacy of Islam in both politics and as a faith) and has as one of its principle focuses the learning of the Koran and certain Hadiths.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:47 PM
Ok seek, I've come to expect this kind of hypocrisy from you so it's not like it comes as a surprise.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:47 PM
Now how this all reflect on Obama as a person is probably of small import, but the fact remains that at a young age, he was immersed in Islamic culture, and likely will be very sympathetic to Islamists - much more so than any of his competitors. Thus, Obama must convince us that he is not secretly sympathetic to our Islamist enemies, and until he does so (in my opinion - by taking an oath of loyalty to the United States, and a repudiation of any Islamist beliefs... and if he is indeed a "christian", to do so upon a Holy Bible) he should be considered a potential security risk and not as a viable candidate.
And the irony? Hillary was the one who first appears to have unearth this pig-poop smothered gem. Some of us righties might have just happened to run with it. >> http://dannycarlton.townhall.com/g/960d539c-9f06-4e4d-8767-ed47da8e9d7c
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:48 PM
On Huckabee: I don't find myself caring much for the man's politics. That he is a minister and a Christian is fine and all, but his politics are decidedly much further left than I am comfortable with. And, yeah, he is a flipper on some things as well.
On Algore: Let me revise that. Not only did he invent the highway, but he will also sell you a pedal-powered car with a free copy of his book, and, if you call before midnight, he throw in a Global Warming Tinfoil Hat to keep out all those bad thoughts caused by CO2 emissions.
"Operators are standing by".
And yes, Virginia... Algore did create them thar internet tubes. Them hacks over at CERN like Tim Berners-Lee were just the tech guys who connected a few odd pipes together.
"During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." (Algore, 2000)
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:49 PM
On FDT's supposed flip-flop: Go back and answer my question - did Fred ever *vote* for any legislation supporting abortion - specifically, legislation supporting a woman's right to abort fetuses in the first trimester.
Because I don't think that the several Right to Life groups that have endorsed Fred's 100% pro-life record in the Senate (106th and 107th Congresses) would have done so if they found fault or lip-flop.
Just because he answered a glib question that apparently provided no room for an answer outside of either "unrestricted abortions, abortions with parental or spousal consent, and abortions in the first trimester" does not make that PVS report an accurate reflection of his believes thirteen years ago.
And just supposing that he DID feel that way - WAY BACK then, then I'd say he had a change of heart early on, and the evidence is in his voting record.
The FairTax thing I don't consider to be a flip-flop, but a reconsideration and a refinement: in one of the recent debates, I recall Fred talking about a two-tiered structure - where people can either go with a flat-tax type plan where they pay from a 10% sales tax up to a certain income level and 25% beyond that level, OR continue to work with the existing tax code.
I'm greatly simplifying the matter with my summary of Fred's tax plan, so lookie here:
http://www.fred08.com/virtual/taxrelief.aspx
Scroll down to Item #7 of Fred's White Paper and read for yourself.
This is a bit more reasonable and sensible than either Ron Paul or Huckabee's notions to scrap the IRS -- there is way too much infrastructure and market involved with the current tax code for it to suddenly disappear.
The two-tier plan might prove to be an adequate test market for people who may choose to adopt the flat(ter) tax idea, and lead to the market-chosen reduction or obsolescence of the IRS we have come to know and grudgingly acknowledge each April.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:50 PM
Can we start with the fact that the school he went to wasn't a Madrassa to start with?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:51 PM
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
Let's see that Gore quote in it's full context.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:54 PM
Going from supporting 1st trimester abortion to not supporting it at all isn't a flip-flop?
Then what the heck is...
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 01:56 PM
Oh please. Give us a small break... in that video and CNN piece, they are obviously practicing al-taqqiya (Islamic deception) to get sheep like you to think it some tidy little liberal NEA-endorsed school that just happened to be primarily Islamic.
It may now be operated as an Indonesian state school, but don't fail to remember that Islam is the state religion of Indonesia. Unlike our great nation, there is no great effort to remove the mention of Deity from public schools. In fact, most schools are rather expected to mix Islam into everything.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 02:02 PM
"--- Going from supporting 1st trimester abortion to not supporting it at all isn't a flip-flop? ---"
Explain to me how a single questionnaire he filled out for Project Vote Smart in 1994 equates to his being a fetus killer, when his voting record for over seven years - the thing he is to be judged by - suggests otherwise?
I spent at least two hours scouring over www.thomas.gov looking for any bill connected to abortions and other family issues Fred was connected to - nothing I turned up suggested that Fred was ever a pro-abortion supporter.
Perhaps I missed something - can you name me chapter and verse which bills or resolutions Fred actually voted for first-trimester abortions?
Thanks!
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 02:06 PM
And another thing about Barry "Hussein" Obama:
Why didn't he properly salute the flag when the national anthem was played like every other red-blooded American son and daughter?
Or is not the man who would be president unwilling to show the proper example of respect for our national symbols?
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 02:08 PM
Actually I don't sulute the flag during the anthem either...I take off my hat (if I'm wearing one) and put my hand over my heart but I don't salute. I leave that to the military.
And why the quotes around "Hussein" to draw attention? I do know his middle name, and unlike you I'm not so narrow minded as to think it makes one shred of a bit of difference.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:11 PM
"--- Actually I don't sulute the flag during the anthem either...I take off my hat (if I'm wearing one) and put my hand over my heart but I don't salute. I leave that to the military. ---"
News Flash: All of the above acts are considered a "salute". At least you have the common decency as an American to render the appropriate salute, which is more than can be said for one of your heroes, Senator Barrack Hussein Obama, failed to do.
This failure to observe even the most basic display of affiliation with the United States, as a United States Senator and a person seeking to be elected to the highest executive office in that same nation, should call everyone to question his patriotism, if not his qualification to be POTUS.
Image here:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/images/salute.jpg
US Code, Title 4 Sec. 9 on proper respect for the US Flag:
"---------------
TITLE 4--FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES
CHAPTER 1--THE FLAG
Sec. 9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag
During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the
flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except
those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the
right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the
military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress
with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being
over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag
in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.
----------------"
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:30 PM
And the name might not make much difference to you... now.
But once he is elected, mark my words, the accomodations to the Islamists and the Caliphate won't be very far behind.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:32 PM
Some nutball Jesus freaks have way too much time on their hands.
Posted by: chris | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:43 PM
Ok Seek, just where did I claim him to be one of my heroes?
I think you need to start wearing your tinfoil hat again, they're coming for you.
Posted by: TheSpartan | Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 04:54 PM
"--- Some nutball Jesus freaks have way too much time on their hands. ---"
As do some freaky far left loonies who tremble at the mere mention of the Name of Jesus, for fear that the "Jesus Cooties" might rub off on them.
"--- Ok Seek, just where did I claim him to be one of my heroes? I think you need to start wearing your tinfoil hat again, they're coming for you. ---"
I'll pass on the tinfoil hat. That's reserved for Ronulans and socialist fringe Dhimmicrats.
As for Obama being one of yer heroes - that was a wild guess. But then again, you probably have a thing for Frau Hillary. At least we know that with her we will have four to eight years of the same old chicanery and wickedness we had with Billy-bob.
Obama adds in that big unknown of his hidden Islamism (or at the very least, his sympathy for them) and a hatred for the sovereignty of the United States in favour of something else.
Whoso does not salute the flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance is (in my eyes at least) someone who shouldn't even be let onto the Senate floor, much less the Oval Office.
But I could be wrong.
Posted by: seekeronos | Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:48 AM