Suspects In Natalee Holloway Disappearance Re-arrested

Update: I haven't been following this, but some people who have may be found here - scroll down. Registration required to comment.

Just heard this on the car radio while driving. Huh? Hard to know if this is another quirk of the Dutch judicial system allowing more investigation, or if someone finally talked and the jig, as they say, is up.

The Associated Press is reporting police have once again arrested three suspects in the 2005 disappearance of then 18-year-old Alabama high schooler Natalee Holloway. Those arrested were Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers named Satish and Deepak Kalpoe.

Update: Extradited? Hmm.  No doubt Google News will eventually have more. Previous extended coverage of the crime is here.

Van der Sloot was arrested in the Netherlands, where he is attending a university, and is expected to be extradited to this Dutch Caribbean island. The Kalpoe brothers were arrested in Aruba.

Comments

[sammyj]

double yeppers.....

[MrOrange]

Rush to judgement? I don't recall any Sesame Street skits a 1000 days long.

[Murph]

I am sure joran wished he had thought of "If I did it" for the title of his first fictional account of how he didn't do it.Remember, he stated one day I will tell what happened,well good time as any to tell the truth at least one time in his sorry ass life!

[rwilymz]

"Rush to judgement?"

Rush to judgment, yes. [one 'e', for the record]

When was it that the Privileged Son and the Sidekicks were accused of murder by the American Mob?

And based on *what* evidence?

Answers:
1] almost immediately;
2] none, zip, zilch, bupkus.

But it sure does feel good to saddle up the ol' horse, ride off as a posse, and string up the first convenient varmints, do'nit there, pardner?

"I don't recall any Sesame Street skits a 1000 days long."

I don't recall the American Mob paying attention for longer than the story stays on the front page.

[windy city]

So Althor or ryilymz or whatever nic you are going by these days, how do you know there is no evidence?

Are you that special that Mos felt compelled to share with you what's in his little bag of tricks?

Quit pretending to "know" what they have. It makes you appear almost as foolish as Joe Tacospinner.

Speaking of Taco Joe, are the Judge and OM going to hold their precedings in English instead of Dutch so ol' Joe can understand? What a friggin' joke.

[rwilymz]

"So Althor or ryilymz or whatever nic you are going by these days, how do you know there is no evidence?"

I remember "althor".

He was an idiot, as far as I recall.

Pretty much like you're doing your level best to advertise yourself to be.

"Nic". Aren't you the hippest of the hip.

As far as the lack of evidence: because there've been no earth-shattering revelations feeding the frenzy of you latter-day Mulder-n-Scullys and your grand conspiracy theories.

"Quit pretending to "know" what they have."

Haven't started to "pretend" to know anything. And in that, I'm apparently the only one. This case is literally littered with on-lookers and hangers-on who "know" that pater Vander is puppet-stringing the show, that there's a conspiracy all the way up to [whatever level] of Aruban or its parent-Dutch government to forestall "justice" in the name of some poor, poor [insert obligatory tears, here] American Princess who was mercilessly hounded, raped and then killed by brutish local thugs.

No, buckwheat, I'm not pretending to know anything. In fact quite the opposite: I do NOT know what happened.

But, then, neither do you are anyone else commenting on it and adding your CSI: Aruba plot-line talking points to the din. But you certainly *think* you do.

There is no evidence [made public]; any claims that evidence has been squelched by authorities is based on paranoias and conspiracy theory; any conclusions made on lack of evidence citing a conspiracy theory as substantiation is irrational and its proponents idiots.

And here we are back to where you came in.

For the record, I've got no idea where you're going with "Taco Joespinner" and the rest of he beyond-hip lingo you're trying to dazzle me with, so I'll just leave it.

But "What a friggin' joke" is a very good signature line for you: keep it.

[windy city]

"But it sure does feel good to saddle up the ol' horse, ride off as a posse, and string up the first convenient varmints, do'nit there, pardner?"

String up the first convenient varmints? While "varmint" is a fitting description of the critters now incarcerated, I think of them more as thugs. Apply a little logic and common sense here rw. The circumstantial evidence is there. Question is do you want to see it? To think there is no corruption and favors done for the elite in the town of Arooba is naive. But I'm sure being the smart guy that you are you already knew that.

[judykay]

Natalie drowned and was taken, by boat, to a secluded/private beach and her body is still there. The boat she was transported in is white with railings where people can sit and stairs leading down to a small room. A black/orange safari shirt was worn by the person with her.

[rwilymz]

"The circumstantial evidence is there."

Those circumstances also point at white slaving. ...possibly involving those same three boys.

Those circumstances also point at banging her and leaving her on the beach, desperately drunk, to find her own way home. ...and laughing as they left her. "Oh, ha ha ha, what a stupid American girl..."

Those circumstances also point to her having puked up wads of pineapple slices from her Bahama Mamas, stumbling into the surf to wash herself off, falling over drunk, being unable to stand up, tumbling around in the surf until she drowned, at which point her body was washed either away from the island or caught in shoreline hazards where it was glomped down by the many varieties of carnivorous and scavenger species in the tropics.

Those circumstances also point to her having passed out on the beach after the three boys left her there only to be picked up by others heretofore unknown for other purposes -- including rape, murder, white slavery, et al.

Those circumstances also point to her having stumbled into the first relatively stable fishing boat she could find, dying of alcohol poisoning, and when the boat's owners came by in the morning to find her they panicked and threw her overboard and have remained silent to this day, knowing that the whole world, at the insistence of arrogant American Junior Kojaks, have already played posse and identified the convenient scapegoats they wish to crucify.

Face it, bubbly: the known evidence points at NOTHING IN PARTICULAR.

"Natalie drowned and was taken, by boat, to a secluded/private beach and her body is still there."

Even **this** is supported by the known evidence.

[sammyj]

hey genius, you left out one piece of known evidence. that she had a bloody wound on her head.

hey genius, where does that fit in your shit.

hey genius, explain that..........or call you doctor.

[windy city]

Your "Those circumstances" make no mention of the three amigos drugging her and "banging" her. How can anyone read what you type and take it serious when you don't include the three main suspects who are currently detained as one of your "Those circumstances"?

[Dax]

Yeppers, looks like we got us a convoy! Some 'wily' ones might think we're talking about something more heady, but the reality is that we're just blowing off some steam with an innocent yepper or two ... really cleans out the system, maybe someone should try knocking that chip off ...

[rwilymz]

"you left out one piece of known evidence. that she had a bloody wound on her head."

Yeah?

Where's her head?

"Your "Those circumstances" make no mention of the three amigos drugging her and "banging" her."

You got physical evidence of anyone "drugging" anyone else? with something besides alcohol? which the "victim" was voluntarily consuming?

No?

Gee. What a surprise.

"How can anyone read what you type and take it serious..."

Because they're rational? Just a guess.

"you don't include the three main suspects who are currently detained as one of your "Those circumstances""

Again, simpleton, this ain't US law being used here; in the US, you actually need a **reason** to arrest someone as a suspect. Particularly after the third or fourth arrest for the same incident. Aruba is not the US. Consult a map.

Aruba also has different legal standards, and people can be arrested and re-arrested on "suspicion" and held without charge for 8 days without cause, and indefinitely if a judge says so.

Oh, and the judge is the investigator under napoleonic legal standards, and so indefinite chargeless detention is kinda common.

The reason having the three stupid boys being currently detained is not a big deal is because I know what I'm talking about and ... well gosh, you *just don't*.

Sorry.

[sammyj]

"you left out one piece of known evidence. that she had a bloody wound on her head."

Yeah?

Where's her head?

Sorry.

Posted by: rwilymz | Friday, November 30

what a fool you are. they witnessed her injury, and you ignore the fact that they did not seek medical help for her bloody head.
your shit for brains cannot add two plus two. Phil Spector did not call 911, JK2 did not call the Aruban 911 to help her.
Can you understand that??????????????????

[Cloggy]

Well the Kalpoe brothers are free again, next week Joran will be out.... end of story !

[jack]

Apologies but I posted this on a (I think) dead thread -->

I suppose not much has changed since first heady, "fact-finding" days of this case. Lines are still drawn. Theories are still passed off as truth. Alliteration, hyperbole and ad hominem attacks remain rampant. Perhaps it is irrational and unsupported to conclude murder.

Yes - murder is POSSIBLE.

I'm not sure though of the "so-o-o-o-o many more things" that could have happened - that any of these are "FAR more likely." Natalee drifted away from shore in a stupor to sink ingeniously unfound. She was absconded by trolls - who just happened by - into white slavery. She ran away. She was murdered. Take your pick. Again, I'm not sure how one applies statistical probability to these and more fanciful things.

While I don’t discount white slavery entirely, it seems to me that of these, murder -- manslaughter -- is, well, no other way to say it: more likely. What passes for evidence we glean on these blogs and in the MSM wouldn't be enough to convict or perhaps charge anyone of anything. Like a lot of people that follow this case - I've said that a long time ago.

Different people, though, have different roles. To those in the role of investigator it -- apparently from these latest arrests -- isn't lost on them that the three gentleman have repeated lied and contradicted themselves - not to mention have pointed fingers at each other. Whatever else, as for myself, I don't think they've tripped and tipped as part of some ingenious rope-a-dope plan to juice millions of dollars through some sort of lawsuit.

Presented with such behavior, any investigator -- even an arm chair investigator - worth the name would be derelict if he didn't follow his nose: one, two or three of these gentlemen know Natalee’s fate.

For my part, I hope, this time around, Aruba’s finest are able to put the pieces together.

[Cloggy]

@Jack
"that the three gentleman have repeated lied and contradicted themselves - not to mention have pointed fingers at each other."

1. Joran and Co. only changhed their story once from dropping her off at the hotel to leaving her on the beach.
2. Read the (Dutch) version of the interrigation of Joran, the police ask him what other possibilities there could be, if he [Joran] didn't do it [it=murder her], perhaps Deepak or Satish ? Joran answers that Deepak could have. You, Jack could also have done it, we just don't know if you were in Aruba at the time and your connection to Natalee...

There is absolutely no proof or hint in 1. & 2.

[Cloggy]

http://indepels.luis.googlepages.com/

Including English translation.

[sammyj]

@Jack
"that the three gentleman have repeated lied and contradicted themselves - not to mention have pointed fingers at each other."

1. Joran and Co. only changhed their story once from dropping her off at the hotel to leaving her on the beach.
2. Read the (Dutch) version of the interrigation of Joran, the police ask him what other possibilities there could be, if he [Joran] didn't do it [it=murder her], perhaps Deepak or Satish ? Joran answers that Deepak could have. You, Jack could also have done it, we just don't know if you were in Aruba at the time and your connection to Natalee...

There is absolutely no proof or hint in 1. & 2.
Posted by: Cloggy | Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 07:48 AM
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Here is an idiot that can't count. First lie about HI dropoff. Second lie about either Deepak or Satish picked Joran up.
one and one equal two.
Back to first grade with you, Soggy.

roflmyao

[Cloggy]

Read !
That satish drove Joran home is not a lie, Satish & Deepak just don't want mother to know...

[rwilymz]

The Arubans have dropped the case. I.e., it is now not an active investigation. If someone gives them something, it would be reviewed, but the chances of that are exceedingly slim.

In other words: what is real now is the same thing that was real from the day after she was found missing: there is no evidence of anything specific happening to her.

Can the international lynch mob put its rope away now?

[rwilymz]

i am stoopit dumb piece of shit!