Ben Smith picks up an item today at The Politico - but why no context? The poll was debunked months ago. All it does is help Bill Clinton try and change the subject as Hillary seems to be hitting a wall and there's a broader, already written story behind Clinton's remarks The Politico doesn't offer.
WJC: She's big in Canada, Europe
The Clinton campaign puts a lot of faith in polls, but Bill Clinton, in the first of two stops in Western Iowa today, cited one I hadn't seen before: A survey showing that Hillary is the front-runner among Democrats and Republicans ... in Canada, Britain and Italy.
Smith links to a RawStory item from ... August?? An item that has already made the rounds - see below.
More than four in 10 French and Germans would like to see Democratic candidate and former first lady Hillary Clinton elected US president in 2008, a survey by a Canadian pollster showed on Wednesday.
The Angus Reid institute also found Clinton to be the preferred candidate of British, Italian and Canadian respondents to its poll, which asked them to choose between eight of the US politicians running for the nomination.
Like here from PolitiFact in September:
The international poll and her strong reelection numbers sound pretty good. But do they mean anything in an American presidential race?
Not really, the experts say.
Mario Canseco, director of global studies at Angus Reid Strategies, the Canadian firm that conducted the poll, attributed Mrs. Clinton's solid support in Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Canada mainly to name recognition as a consequence of her role as First Lady.
"We expected Hillary to come out on top — she is well-known, she traveled extensively as a First Lady, and Europe retains a fascination with the presidency of Bill Clinton," Canseco said. That's been particularly true since the Bush administration clashed with the French and German governments over the war in Iraq.


RE: "More than four in 10 French and Germans would like to see ... Hillary Clinton elected US president in 2008,"
All the more reason to tighten our border controls and immigration rules. ;-)
Posted by: JCPennylegion | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 02:14 PM
"More than four in 10 French and Germans would like to see..."
Turning that around, over half would NOT like to see Hillary as president.
Posted by: Purple Avenger | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 02:54 PM
Not too surprising that a large number of French and Germans like the Hildabeast. After all, Europe has a historic liberal... erm, anti-American bias.
(I guess that is close enough to being the same thing... :P)
"--- Turning that around, over half would NOT like to see Hillary as president. ---"
One might think so, but not having seen the actual poll results... those other 6/10 could be anywhere on the map from Fred Thompson to "I see UFOs" Dennis Kucinich.
And I'd bet that the Euro-muzzies would certainly not be saddened to see the American-flag hating B. Hussein Obama as POTUS.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 04:06 PM
She's very popular where I live, in Montreal! Alot of us physicians are rooting for her with signs all over the hospital where we work. Should be a great time.
Posted by: mary josie | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 05:19 PM
"She's very popular where I live, in Montreal!"
Why Mary? Why is she so popular with you?
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez: | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 05:24 PM
Europeans will prefer Hillary and Obama to prove to themselves that they aren't sexist or racist. They know nothing about the other candidates, except perhaps that Guilliani was NY mayor and Romney is a Mormon. They know nothing about the issues except that Kyoto is good, war is bad, and Bush is a Texas cowboy. They also understand very little of our system of government. I've observed coverage of quite a few US elections in Germany--enough to disregard European opinion. Why do people like WJC act as though the average European is so enlightened?
Posted by: expat | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 06:02 PM
"All it does is help Bill Clinton try and change the subject as Hillary seems to be hitting a wall"
I guess, technically, there's a limit to how badly you can trounce every Democrat and Republican in a matchup, and you could call that a wall, but proclaiming the death of her campaign is just Riehlly Stupid™.
Posted by: scarshapedstar | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 07:06 PM
How many French women found Shrillary's lipstick on their husbands zipper or if some are correct, how many French men (if there are any) found Shrillary's lipstick on their wives panties?
Posted by: Scrapiron | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 10:06 PM
"--- How many French women found Shrillary's lipstick on their husbands zipper or if some are correct, how many French men (if there are any) found Shrillary's lipstick on their wives panties? ---"
I'd say that given what we've seen from Bill & Hill... he'd be the one leaving stains on French women's clothing, and she... well, I'd venture to guess that she hasn't had carnal knowledge of anyone since the Carter Administration.
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"--- She's very popular where I live, in Montreal! Alot of us physicians are rooting for her with signs all over the hospital where we work. Should be a great time. ---"
Since when do the Quebecois doctors care about the US presidential contest? The only thing that comes to mind is her desire to rope us into a socialist, government-mandated health care programme. I don't see how that particularly would benefit physicians in Montreal. Salaries aside, you all are probably making more than a typical American doctor now with the Loonie trading well above par (Can$ 1 = USD$ 1.10)
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 11:13 PM
As I was reading on a german website, this not all correct. Italy gave her the lowest approval-28%, Germany gave her 32%, Britain among other also did not give her high approval. All this is overblown, and it almost sounds like kerry in 2004 "Worldleaders want me to be presient".
Posted by: cali_sun | Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 02:57 PM