Well Then, Which World War Would It Be?

Writing in the New York Times, David Stout pens an item as vague as it is anything else, except insightful, which it isn't in the least. I imagine they simply wanted to get the headline up to counter a recent Bush statement, as that's what the NY Times sees as its mission these days:

No, It’s Not Really World War III

But first, it would be good to review just what he said.

“We got a leader in Iran who has announced that he wants to destroy Israel,” Mr. Bush said at a news conference. He was referring to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s remark that Israel “will disappear soon,” words about as inflammatory as others the Iranian has uttered about Israel.

“So I told people,” Mr. Bush went on, “if you’re interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon.”

Iran is believed to be accumulating the technical know-how to build nuclear weapons. It has rockets powerful enough to reach Israel and other Middle Eastern countries, although none powerful enough to strike the United States, as the old Soviet Union had, and as Russia does.

Stout mutters something about Russia, as if you can't possibly have a real world war without them and the sort of massive nuclear exchange associated with the next world war during the Cold War. What it displays is how out of touch are many allegedly deep thinkers with events on the ground around the world today.

You take a theocratic Iran and allow it to acquire the means to not only destroy Israel, which we must assume it would gladly do, but to also project a stifling power across the region that holds the largest portion of the free world's oil reserves. Add to that Islamic extremist creep within nations that comprise much of that free world, provide it with the flash point of an attack on Israel and threatened economic collapse due to Iran's new found capability of controlling the oil supply - and you have a world chock full of free nations that have to wage war on two fronts, one domestic, one against a nuclear armed theocratic regime controlling a large portion of the Middle-east.

Some might see that as the next world war. Maybe Stout simply sees it as Iraq, or Afghanistan II with a little domestic police action added for good measure. But it's hard to know, as Stout doesn't say. He doesn't even appear to be aware of the possibility. And that's what I find so frightening about many on the Left, including most of the Democrats who want to be President of the only power in a position to draw a line in the sand when it comes to Iran's imperialistic ambitions.

Comments

[seekeronos]

I'd say that WW3 is already afoot, it is only a matter of time before it blooms into its full flower ... or alternatively, it is staunched by a decisive defeat of the Islamists, and particularly, one of its heads being Iran. The other head will be a much nastier customer to get rid of (Saudi Arabia).. especially as it is one of our so-called "allies".

It is hard to compare WW's with one another, as each had their own particular scope and theatres; whereas WW1 and WW2 could more or less be the same continuous conflict with a brief interlude.

However, WW2 did have a warm-up period in the 1930s where the Axis nations cut their teeth on lesser nations:

Nazi Germany in Spain
Italy in NE Africa (esp. Ethiopia)
Japan in China (esp. Manchuria/Manchukuo)

In like manner in our era, we have Iran agitating in Iraq and against Israel, and Iran's attempt to draw the other Shi'ite nations (Syria, Lebanon, and to some extent, Jordan; as well as partisans in Shi'a dominated Iraq) and to a much lesser degree, those Sunnis who can set aside Sunni-Shi'a grievances long enough to attack Israel.

Iran also has a very good chance of pulling Putin's Russia into their camp, if only to meet a Russian desire to contain and deplete American military might, and also provide Putin with a moral soapbox from which to agitate and even consider reneging on various nuke treaties so he can (legally) start mass-producing ICBMs/SLBMs and space-based options.

More distantly in this emerging anti-US/anti-Israel axis is Red China and possibly India, who all will have various levels of interest in getting and maintaining access to oil for their respective economies. All of the above nations are signatories to the Shanghai Pact, which in its current form is a precursor to the same sort of eco-political entity as the European Economic Community had been in the 1950s.

Meanwhile, Russia has to walk VERY carefully with this, as a nuclear Iran could very quickly become a threat to Russia's southern flank; and with a restive population of Islamist Chechens and Kazakhs at it southern flanks, Putin might loose its ability to react against those populations with (near dictatorial) impunity.

From a Bible Prophecy perspective... this arrangement may hold interesting portents:

As things are shaping up now, the Iran/Russia/Islamist axis may well form the pact of states that act as Gog/Magog in the Ezekiel 38 prophecy, which states that these kingdoms will war against Israel and be decisively defeated (by Israel and who else's army? Likely the USA - thereby leading to horrific amounts of loss on the US's side as well as a near total defeat and rout of the Russia/Iran axis).

The EU may well be inundated by Muslims at this time so as to render it completely inert, or it may very well join the Russian/Iranian/Islamist axis against Israel and the USA.

China, India, and possibly Japan (acting rapidly to get nuclear weapons ability as it sees its American defense umbrella destroyed) may then act as the prophesied "Kings of the East", by marching a 200 million man army (along with associated logistics network) across the Euphrates to seize the now undefended, if not shattered, oil infrastructure.

These actions may set the stage for the appearance of the final Antichrist and his/her False Prophet, who will bring the rest of the world under their domination, save for the remaining of God's sealed peoples, some of whom may be martyred by the end time global regime for their belief in Jesus.

[Fred Beloit]

This is a very good encapsulization of what the West may be up against in the near future if nothing is done to prevent it:

"...a world chock full of free nations that have to wage war on two fronts, one domestic, one against a nuclear armed theocratic regime controlling a large portion of the Middle-east."

Of course our friends the nutroots types will go bonkers over this vision of what seems to be the future, most especially because it points a finger right at them. After all it will be they who, if empowered, will be the abettors and allies of the domestic forces aligned against the Western nations. Batten down the hatches and
steady up to hoist the libturds er tards; it's coming up on rough weather today.

[Worst President Ever]

It may be World War III but hey, we'll win in a rout. How do we know, cause the Bible tells us so.

[waka waka]

Is this a joke?
"These actions may set the stage for the appearance of the final Antichrist and his/her False Prophet, who will bring the rest of the world under their domination, save for the remaining of God's sealed peoples, some of whom may be martyred by the end time global regime for their belief in Jesus."
And besides, isn't that what you whackos want? Man, you people are cra-zy!

[Fred Beloit]

Posted by: Worst President Ever | Monday, October 22, 2007 at 02:16 PM

"How do we know, cause the Bible tells us so."

Posted by: waka waka | Monday, October 22, 2007 at 04:20 PM

"Man, you people are cra-zy!"

Ladies and gentlemen, now this is humor. This is wit. This is prose worthy of Cicero. This is eloquence beyond excellence. Savor it while you can.

[Worst President Ever]

Thanks Fred, glad you liked it. I thought my response matched the amount of consideration Seek's post deserved. I'm sure a rational man like you agrees.

[seekeronos]

WPE demonstrates the failure of our "magickal liberal edge-mah-kay-shunal system" by failing to provide him with even a basic level of reading comprehension skill.

I do reckon Fred was commenting about WPE and waka waka's "witty" repartee to my _observations_ and _opinion_ on current world events and how it superficially lines up with Biblical eschatology.

I say opinion, because some folks hold to a preterist fulfillment of scriptures concerning the Antichrist and his False Prophet, that is, he came in the form of a historic character who oppressed the first-century Christians, such as Nero or Vespasian.

My personal opinion is that there have been _numerous_ antichrists (whose purpose is to deny that Jesus Christ came in the flesh as the living Word of God) and who attempt to usurp Jesus's role as either or both Divine King of Heaven and Earth, or as our High Priest, who as God the Son, makes intercession for us to God the Father.

These antichrists and false prophets however, are typical of one final Antichrist/False Prophet pair who will persecute the Jewish and Christian remnant in the final tribulation, even unto death, according to futurist interpretation.

[chris]

"My personal opinion is that there have been _numerous_ antichrists" <------- Nutball alert!

[Worst President Ever]

Here's my opinion on the Antichrist: Total BS.
People who believe in it: Total Nutjobs.
People who take the Bible literally: Delusional.

[chris]

"People who take the Bible literally: Delusional."

I vote for gullible myself, but delusional works.

[seekeronos]

"---

Here's my opinion on the Antichrist: Total BS.
People who believe in it: Total Nutjobs.
People who take the Bible literally: Delusional.

---"

Of course you think that way. It is the way you have been mislead to think. And it is as the Lord Himself said, concerning the larger part of humanity that will reject Him:

"I have given them (Christians) thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." (John 17:14, KJV)

And it is why you are deceived, and why you will likely continue to live in deception... unless you repent and turn to Jesus Christ.

You've been so mislead as to think that Lucifer (Satan) and the Antichrist are just humbugs and bogeymen that only the proletarians believe in; superstitions and all; you will not even realize that you've been fooled until it is too late, when you line up like goats to the slaughter... to receive the mark of the Beast so you can have a morsel to eat.

Sadly, this is the state of most people in this age - running away from redemption for a mess of pottage in this world.

It is not I that is gullible or deluded, but you who reject the Living God, and His Son. His Words are Faithful and True, for thus saith the Lord Jesus as He prayed unto the Father:

"---
17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

---" (John 17:14-17, KJV)

I pray that you (Bob, chris, LOL, WPE... etc.) wake up and call upon the Name of the Lord to be saved.

It is your only hope in this world.