Michelle Malkin notes, with analysis and multiple links, that the Democrats have every intention of continuing the S-CHIP debate in one form, or another. S-CHIP was one of the topics covered on a conference call between bloggers, news services and Senator John Cornyn R-Texas today.
As we move into '08, it's clear that Democrats intend to co-opt the legislative process to facilitate their electioneering strategy. It's important that centrists and conservatives who don't believe Big Government is the answer to every problem get their points across.
Cornyn drafted a letter to the Democrat leadership seeking compromise on S-CHIP and pointed out that no one is opposed to a reasonable expansion of the program, while also pointing out the serious problems with the large and, many argue, unnecessary expansion being proposed by the Dems.
It's part of a Democrat plan to increase the government's debt limit by a trillion dollars, or roughly $30,000 per US citizen. With Washington already wrestling with long term fiscal stability, enacting legislation that takes benefits intended for low income individuals and expands them ever upward into the middle class is ultimately more a recipe for a socialist-like fix for health care, or flat out government controlled health care, than good government at it best. The large expansion would move America further down the road toward a single payer health care system, something it has firmly rejected, when given the chance.
Critics also point out that the 61 cent per pack cigarette tax, which would purportedly fund the larger expansion, not only doesn't add up, it's a regressive tax that would dis-proportionately exact monies from lower income brackets, as opposed to the top.
While Republicans continue to support a limited, appropriate expansion of S-CHIP, Democrats appear intent on presenting their proposed major expansion as for the common good. Unfortunately, as we've already seen, a large expansion of S-CHIP would only result in higher taxes for many Americans while in some cases underwriting poor choices, bad planning, or irresponsibility, among some number of Americans who simply choose to not take care of themselves.
If most Americans understood the full ramifications of what Democrats ultimately have in mind, they'd likely firmly reject the approach. But with the mainstream media carrying the Democrat's water on S-CHIP, it's a story that will be difficult to get out without Democrats controlling the narrative with misleading images and tales.


Now see here this is what I'm talking about. They're all about increasing the tobacco tax and I'm fixin' to ask the government for a 45% tobacco refund or at least a tax write-off for my tobacco expenses. Tobacco don't grow on no damn trees. They're foolin' around with an aggravation for Turkey so we'll have a harder time gettin' supplies to our military. And here I am with my needs. They's only the rare few who get what I call the big picture of what government should be all about, that is womb to cemetery care for the citizens with landscape care for monuments and head stones until the end of time.
What the hell did I vote Democratic for if I can't get any reasonable help with paying my bills? Here I am with a watch that runs slow, makin' me late for work, replacements needed for my front tars, and a wicked gasoline bill for my John Deere lawn chewer.
Ok, they say, have some of this delicious socialistic health care. But damnation, I'm healthy as a mule. I'll take a helpin' of that when I get sick. But I got real needs now damn it.
Posted by: Superviso Chambers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 03:55 PM
Here is the problem. Our side is fighting an uphill battle, and with all due respect we aren't going to win with sobering analyses from the Heritage Foundation. In order to win, we have to fight fire with fire. The Dems claim that we are against the children. Well, in reality the Dems are for expanding a bloated government which ultimately leads to CORRUPTION. Being for the children is a very emotional issue, well so is corruption, and since our side has the debate on the merits, what we need to do is frame it in a way to draws people in emotionally.
They have put the Frost's up as the poster family for SCHIP. We didn't do that, the Dems did. Well, we cannot be fickle. We must attack this family because there is plenty to attack.
They own a home, a business, three cars and send four kids to private school and yet at the same time, they get their health insurance paid for by the government. Now, that is CORRUPTION.
That said, the blogosphere can't lead this debate. The Rep politicians must lead it. They are too busy sitting on their hands wanting to avoid looking mean and in the meantime they are handing the debate to the Dems.
Times are tough, and it is hard to be "against the children" however it is a debate they can win if they actually try. They aren't even trying.
Here is how I saw the situation.
http://proprietornation.blogspot.com/2007/10/schip-middle-class-guilt.html
Posted by: Michael Volpe | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:21 PM
Well, rather droll material from Ms or Mr Chambers, but it is not without some rustic aplomb. And one cannot help but recognize, rather dourly perhaps, the core of truth in his/her somewhat solicismatic musings.
One is perforce persuaded to his crux. Though bumpkins of this ilk are often constrained by pecuniary shortfalls when perusing their purchases, lessons may be learned by observing the primitive drive to attain and obtain with recourse to government expenditures. Hillbilly craft and guile. We don't call the seat of Congress "The Hill" for nothing.
Posted by: Chief Financial Plano Clubbers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:26 PM
I sincerely hope that the brave and god-fearing cons keep up the fight on the s-chip. Keep trashing those brain-damaged kids! This is almost as good as Larry Craig.
Keep up the good work!
Posted by: chris | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:28 PM
No hold on there, dictionary head. Best I can make out you are agreeing with me. That right, Mister Clubbers?
Posted by: Superviso Chambers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:34 PM
chris you are absolutely right. I am hoping they push means testing even farther up the ladder. I have a plan to cash out my retirement funds and hide the money, maybe go offshore so I can still get dividends. Then I'll learn the phrase "welcome to WalMart" and get a job. Damned hyouse is paid for but if it matters, I can refinance, same with other real property. Then I'll claim I'm indigent and get all I can. This should work until I start drawing that fortune from social insecurity in 15 years. Damn I'm glad I have people like you to work and take care of me.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:36 PM
Superviso Chambers + Chief Financial Plano Clubbers: Hmm, I wonder if anyone is actually fooled.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:37 PM
Most certainly, my dear Mr Chambers. Do you imagine for one second that I wouldn't like to share the expense of my PhD from Yale with the entire nation?
Posted by: Chief Financial Plano Clubbers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:37 PM
Wahoo, I think you have something there. Dirty work's afoot.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:38 PM
Eh, it like maliciousness
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:48 PM
Pass that bill. Hope they make the age limit high. I'm paying for my 23 year old daughter's health insurance, $450.00 a month now, $1,000.00 a month when COBRA ends.
I see a new car on the horizon, yipee.
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 04:57 PM
Yeah, unfortunately my kids are grown and gone but maybe I can convince them to just drop thier insurance and buy new cars instead.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:05 PM
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chris you are absolutely right. I am hoping they push means testing even farther up the ladder. I have a plan to cash out my retirement funds and hide the money, maybe go offshore so I can still get dividends. Then I'll learn the phrase "welcome to WalMart" and get a job. Damned hyouse is paid for but if it matters, I can refinance, same with other real property. Then I'll claim I'm indigent and get all I can. This should work until I start drawing that fortune from social insecurity in 15 years. Damn I'm glad I have people like you to work and take care of me.
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AMEN to that! Brave Liberal Warrior and defender of the workers called "chris" has sure seen the way for the Proletariat to achieve success in this evil capitalist driven nation!
Why, even a middle class bourgeoisie like myself can milk the teat of taxpayer largess until it is thoroughly chapped!
I too, want three SUVs, and a new house (in the NYC suburban area) as well as putting paid to my kids (all 8 of them) in nice pre-Ivy League (socialist controlled, too!) private schools.
And all taken care of by Big Mother Government who will drape me with her ponderously fleshy breasteses filled with piles of tax money!
Posted by: Supergovernment Socialisto Teat Chappers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:11 PM
"Eh, it like maliciousness" I don't think so Wahoo. Looks like just good clean fun to me.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:34 PM
LOL;;;;;; I meant "lacks" that's what I get for talking on the phone and typing with one hand
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:35 PM
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I am hoping they push means testing even farther up the ladder. I have a plan to cash out my retirement funds and hide the money, maybe go offshore so I can still get dividends. Then I'll learn the phrase "welcome to WalMart" and get a job. Damned hyouse is paid for but if it matters, I can refinance, same with other real property. Then I'll claim I'm indigent and get all I can. This should work until I start drawing that fortune from social insecurity in 15 years. Damn I'm glad I have people like you to work and take care of me.
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That might work under a Republican Administration, where a kickback and a secret handshake make the cops leave you alone. Of course, the 90s Clinton crackdown policies on this exact sort of Reagen-era cronyism and corporate welfare were exactly what inspired the froothing rage of Clenis hate. I wouldn't try shinanagans like that under a moderate Dem party. For starters, you don't know the right secret handshake (hint: don't lead with the Nazi salute). Secondly, the Dems are in crack-down-on-corruption mode themselves right now. And of course, the kicker is that another innovation of the 90s Clinton reforms was an attention to busting just the sort of scam you embrace.
So when the cops drag you off for tax evasion, and you go screaming about socialism and class warfare and trickle down economics, try to find a good Republican lawyer who feels your pain. And pray you don't get a Ruth Bater Ginsberg justice. That could get unpleasant for you.
Posted by: IslamoLlama | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:15 PM
"So when the cops drag you off for tax evasion"
And who said anything about tax evasion? Yeah, those Clinton coruption crack downs, boy that's scary. Of course scarier would be having a religious cult. Nah, I'm just stacking the deck in my own favor and taking all I can get from the new government. Screw being honest, I'm done with it. I'm just a struggling middle classer.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:21 PM
Sandy is going to take his lie-detector test any day now.
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:23 PM
That's right expanding and increasing the number social programs will have absolutely no bearing on increasing the debt or taxes on the middle class. With algore's carbon credits we will do as Jimmy Carter said and plant crops from "fence post to fence post" this time they will be money trees and we will save the earth at the same time
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:30 PM
Hillary wont even have to rob the federal employee retirment system like Bill did to help make the budget seem balanced
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Anyone know if it's true that Hillary is going to use "Big Rock Candy Mountain" as her campaign song?
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:33 PM
10 of 11 Arrested in NJ Probe Democrats, But Media Avoids Party Labels
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/craig-bannister/2007/09/10/10-11-arrested-nj-probe-democrats-media-avoids-party-labels
By Craig Bannister | September 10, 2007 - 16:02 ET
So, 10 of the 11 New Jersey officials arrested last week on bribery and corruption charges were Democrats? Where's the establishment media outcry about a Democratic "culture of corruption" in the state?
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:39 PM
"Where's the establishment media outcry about a Democratic "culture of corruption" in the state?"
Silly, they're helping the dems with thier crackdown on corruption, either that or helping William Jefferson thaw his freezer in La.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:42 PM
Speaking of Louisiana. Wonder what might have happened had all the levee money had been spent on the levees? Oh, never mind Cheney's Ninjas blew 'em up
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 06:55 PM
Those saucy ninjas! But maybe that means we can make another wonderful government social program to help those ninjas and their ninja larvae get many grants to go to private ninja school!
Posted by: Supergovernment Socialisto Teat Chappers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 07:25 PM
No, I believe ninjas are trained at area 54 by former innocent afghanis who were found wandering aimlessly on battlefields and taken to gitmo.
Posted by: Wahoo Willie Sez | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 07:47 PM
"....Secondly, the Dems are in a crackdown-on-corruption mode themselves right now."
I laughed my ass off when I read that line by Islamoboob. Democrats arrested in New Jersey for corruption, more in Dallas, I suppose the Democrats are arresting themselves.
Oh, yeah, don't forget the Democratic Congresswoman who grabbed the arm of a female reporter who asked about those CORRUPT earmarks supported by the Democrats.
That's some crackdown you Democrats have there, Islamoboob!
Posted by: jj | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 08:09 PM
4 more Dems were arrested today for corruption on Long Island, (NY) per Newsday.
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 08:36 PM
IslamoLlama, yep, the democrats are honest folks and will stop the corruption. YeeHaw. Are you an adult or one of the 25 year old retarded children Peeeloshi wants the taxpayer to support? Get real, the democrats in congress today are the most corrupt in the history of the nation, and that is hard to beat after the Slick Willie debacle, and the corrupt Shrillary. How many hundred corrupt, na, outright theiving CEO/CFO's did the Bush administration bust when they came into office? Maybe it was in the thousands. One of the most corrupt had spent several nights in Slick's white house sleeping with Slick, Shrillary, or both. Someone should have checked for more stained underwear. Not to worry, if Shrillary is elected we will get a second chance to put her in prison, if some deranged democrat doesn't put her in the grave yard.
Posted by: Scrapiron | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 08:40 PM
Here's a cool game on the internet
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/once-again-its-time-to-play-guess-that-party-affiliation
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 08:44 PM
"Speaking of Louisiana." I wonder how that Lord-lover/troop-supporter SENATOR David Vitter is doing? Is he banging any more hookers for Jesus? A true patriot and family-values hero that one.
Thank you for your service, SENATOR Vitter!
Posted by: BobInStamford | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 08:59 PM
Boob, the SURGE is working. It must be 2013 in your universe, haha! Care to comment on Democratic corruption? Didn't think so.
Posted by: jj | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 09:21 PM
Michelle Malkin was canned, in part, for her abuse of a 12-year-old child who disagreed with her.
When you're too hateful for Bill O'Reilly, you really need to step back and figure out what you're doing.
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 09:41 PM
Looks like you guys have another American family to attack:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1007/Democrats_profile_another_SCHIP_family.html
They're speaking in favor of S-CHIP and against! Sic `em!
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 09:47 PM
Michelle Malkin was canned?
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:12 PM
She was fired or she just took her ball and went home:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/15/malkin-quits-oreilly-factor/
There's more to the story than meets the eye and it cries for investigation. Did she leave because Geraldo refused to withdraw his criticism of her?
Or did her attacks on a 12-year-old brain damaged boy offend some vestige of decency left in the lizard brains running FoxNoise?
Either way, she's a whiner.
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Oh look at this! You guys even offended the way-right-wing Wall St Journal edit page! Good work!
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WSJ
Despite their howls about "the children," Democrats and their media partners are happy to milk them for political gain.
Unfortunately, that narrative was bolstered this week by some conservative bloggers. After the Schip veto, Democrats chose a 12-year-old boy named Graeme Frost to deliver a two-minute rebuttal. While that was a political stunt, the Washington habit of employing "poster children" is hardly new. But the Internet mob leapt to some dubious conclusions and claimed the Frost kids shouldn't have been on Schip in the first place.
As it turns out, they belonged to just the sort of family that a modest Schip is supposed to help.
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Ha-ha!
http://www.opinionjournal.com/weekend/hottopic/?id=110010730
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:20 PM
TopLiberal, all this reminds me of another brilliant statement by Aristotle, after he had studied many of the political systems that had been tried by the different city states in Greece:
All democracies fail due to loose fiscal policy. As soon as the citizens learn they can vote themselves benefits from the public treasury, that is exactly what they do, thus hastening the end. Sound familiar to you.
Of course, the Democrats hardly care about these people, but seek to use them to gain power, or why would they be using children in such a shameful way? Frankly, these Democrats who use children as shields should be ashamed of themselves, and if they had any honor at all, would slink out of town.
Posted by: jj | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:20 PM
O'Reilly is a liberal
Rivera is a liberal
Alpha is a liar
Here's how Rivera behaves
Crazy attention whore Geraldo Rivera told the Boston Globe that crazy attention whore Malkin was "the most vile, hateful commentator I've ever met … It’s good she’s in D.C. and I’m in N.Y. I’d spit on her if I saw her.” Later, when O'Reilly asked him if he wanted to say something about it on the show because, he said, Malkin's "feelings were hurt." (Saying this he came across, weirdly, as almost grandfatherly and sane.) Rivera did apologized for his "ungentlemanly" and "ungallant" words — "I never spit!" he said — but couldn't help qualifying that he disagreed with everything Malkin said and basically indicating that he thought she was an asshole.
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:23 PM
"Alpha is a liar."
That one wasn't difficult to determine. He is just another of chris/boob's sockpuppets. He never offers anything new, just the same old Leftist drivel.
Posted by: jj | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Story of the week:
At the time Luttrell and Murphy, his best friend, knew that "a massive mistake had been made." He writes, "I had actually cast a vote which I knew could sign our death warrant. I'd turned into a…liberal, a half-assed, no-logic nitwit, all heart, no brain, and the judgment of a jackrabbit."
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDc1M2QzYTIyODNkZmQ4NzRiN2MwNTE5NzA5ZjlkMDI=
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:35 PM
From that same WSJ editorial, besides the comment about Pelosi, we have this:
Despite their howls about "the children," Democrats and their media partners are happy to milk them for political gain.
Posted by: Lala | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 10:41 PM
I'm lying? I'm just asking questions. Why would Malkin resign one month after the Geraldo event? Does that explain her departure or does the more recent Frost family attack make a more logical explanation for the abrupt departure?
This should be investigated at least as thoroughly as the Frost family.
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Noooo! How can anyone not believe every lemony-scented word that drops like dew from Comrade Geraldo's lips?
Don't these silly people know that he is on the front lines of our battles, doing courageous things like dodging Saddam's evil bullets?
Or that the brave and unimpeachable Comrade Geraldo (whose breath never stinks) would speak nothing but the truth against the vile and child-bashing Malkin-dragon lady person? Surely she is only a mouthpiece for the reactionary forces of the ruling class!
Posted by: Supergovernment Socialisto Teat Chappers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 11:27 PM
Geraldo didn't resign. Nor was he fired.
Why would Malkin quit one month after the offense? Odd timing that.
Posted by: AlphaLiberal | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 11:35 PM
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/reprint/119/5/e1026.pdf
How often does this have to repeated? Expanding SCHIP will SAVE Americans money
Posted by: LOL | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 12:25 AM
and secondly, Dems have already compromised the bill. It was originally set for $50 billion over ten years. It's now $35 Billion. Clearly dems are showing a willingness to work with republicans, that is a pretty BIG cut. Bush has not budged, big surprise
Posted by: LOL | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 12:30 AM
ROFL good god, when even Fox News find you distasteful, you know something's wrong
Posted by: LOL | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 12:37 AM
"--- How often does this have to repeated? Expanding SCHIP will SAVE Americans money ---"
Yeah, it will "save" my money from my taxes and give it to people who really don't need it.
And put us just one more step closer to the wretched socialist "single payer" government insurance you liberals keep wagging about.
Just one more step to more centralized federal tyranny, where Big Mama controls you from the womb to the cemetery, and another picket post in the fence that the liberal neo-fascists like George Soros and his ilk at MoveOn.org are building around those of us dumb Americans who refuse to wake up.
If you want really to be in a country just like the Eurotopias like Norway and Sweden that have these wonderful socialist democratic principles that have opened their door to the Muslim conquering masses, then y'all should go there and leave us freedom minded Americans alone.
Posted by: seekeronos | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 01:00 AM
"First, it's policy Democrats care about"
Translation: the kind of spending that buys us votes.
Posted by: Purple Avenger | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 01:15 AM