Bill Scher has a post up after our discussion of S-CHIP and the Frost family on Alan Colmes' radio show. He faults me for claiming liberals are often dishonest in debate ... then goes on to admit a major mis-statement of fact that demon-izes Bush and the Republicans. Some people might call that dishonest, but not a liberal, I guess. Audio here and through post link above.
I did overstate one point. I said Bush is proposing "less money" for SCHIP, which isn't quite right. He is proposing nominally more money, just not enough to maintain the number of kids currently in the program. It's essentially less money, but not literally.
Typical of the liberal entitlement culture, if you don't give them a lot more money, it always ends up being "less than" they started with. But don't you dare call them dishonest, it's just the new liberal Math. And Scher continues his dishonesty and misrepresentation. Let's clear them up.
During our debate, Riehl could not let go that the New York Times characterized Mr. Frost work schedule as "intermittent[]," and presumed he is choosing not to work much because he's coasting with children's health insurance through SCHIP.
I never said the above, I said he appears to have made bad choices before the accident leaving his children at the mercy of taxpayers. Then he allowed his child to be put forward to emotionally black mail America into expanding the program and seems to have no shame about it at all. Why Frost was or wasn't coasting has nothing to do with S-CHIP. That's simply what set the foundation for his "need." Bad choices.
Never mind that his family of six was denied private insurance multiple times because of pre-existing conditions, and that he and his wife are still without health insurance.
As for the above, so far as we know, they've been denied insurance after the accident. What is relevant is what happened before. Frost could have provided better and didn't, staying with a failed or failing business, we can only assume because he enjoyed it more than getting a job that offered his family benefits. I don't see how defending that decision-making is "standing up for the children," unless you also believe the government should always run in and pick up the check for poor planning and bad decision-making.
And anyone knows that to strike out on one's own as an entrepreneur means that steady work is often hard to come by. It's clear that they are doing all they can to raise four kids.
Based on news accounts, Frost struck out on his own a decade ago and failed within the first year. In the years since, he appears to have decided to not take any number of positions he could have that would have provided insurance for his family. Striking out on your own for a decade when it hasn't produced the economic security you require, as you also chose to have four kids, isn't being an entrepreneur. It's called being a failure.
And nowhere will Scher ever point out that many of the people forced to subsidize S-CHIP through taxation still have fewer assets and lower incomes than the Frosts. Who is looking out for them? Certainly not Scher.


Now Mr. or Ms. Ever, see you got the damn big picture :"Setting up the Frosts as the Face of Tax Unfairness is ludicrous. They don't have armies of lobbyists, or legislators in their pockets, to write law."
I ain't got none of those things either, but I got my damn needs, damn it. The sooner we Democratics drop the Turkey nonsense and get back to spending the other folks' money, the better off everbody's going to be.
Just for starters, do you have any idea how much it costs me to fill up ma John Deere so I can mow my bermuda? How about fixin' things so the government will pay its fair share of about half my gasoline? Turkey ain't nobody's business but the Turks, like thew old song says.
Posted by: Superviso Chambers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 02:29 PM
Amen, noble Comrade Chambers!
Indeed, let us all vote Democrat this year, so Comrade Matriarch Hillary may tend to all of our many wounds.
And with America being the wealthiest nation in the world, surely her teats are large and supple, ready to be stroked and milked until they are ragged and chapped by feeding the needs of the shivering huddled masses of the millions of Americans who need care for their bunions.
Maybe we wouldn't have so many bunions if only Big Mother Government would cover us with her ample skirts, and supply us with free SUVs and dental care, just like they do in Norway!
Posted by: Supergovernment Socialisto Teat Chappers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:38 PM
Look out and jump back snakebite. Now you're a-talkin' SSTS. You got that clarity when it comes to really understandin' what the government is here for.
Posted by: Fred ...I Mean Superviso Chambers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 05:48 PM
I only wish to speak the truth... to power, my dear Comrade Fred... I mean Mr. S. Chambers.
After all, who would want to refuse to have the obese breasteses of our socialist mother softly enveloping us in a cradle of love... erm, a cradle of life-giving social programs? And free SUVs and beer?
Posted by: Supergovernment Socialisto Teat Chappers | Monday, October 15, 2007 at 11:35 PM
What WCE neglects to mention is that of course WSJ wants this benefit: That way it's business constituency can sluff off the expense to the taxpayers. Same reason they want to let in slave labor.
Posted by: SDN | Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 05:49 AM