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"you just pulled that out of your ass, man!"

Actually I pulled it out of a CCR fan site.


"So, why the (inaccurate) put-down that Gore was the basis for Fortunate Son"

I don't know that it's inaccurate. I also don't know that it's a "put-down". I looked up the song because I honestly couldn't remember the title of it -- I knew "Senator's Son" wasn't it -- and I fell into a fan site first off the bat. The quote I found was from there.

You're probably as aware as I am that inspiration for artistic works come from all over the place. I read that it was ambiguous; you think it's specific. It's very likely "yes".

But why so defensive about it? Do you get money for fending off "put-downs" on your proxy hero? Trying to advance on the anti-corporate ladder?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_gore

"He enlisted in the United States Army on August 7, 1969. After basic training at Fort Dix, Gore was assigned as a military journalist writing for The Army Flier, the base newspaper at Fort Rucker. With seven months remaining in his enlistment, Gore was shipped to Vietnam, arriving on January 2, 1971. He served for four months with the 20th Engineer Brigade in Bien Hoa and for another month at the Army Engineer Command in Long Binh."

"Gore served as a field reporter in Vietnam for five months."

Field reporter.

The same kind of preferred assignment you get for either being extremely nearsighted and nerdy enough to be good on a Selectric®, or by being Connected.


"Why the little jab at SSG McGough?"

Who? I don't think I've ever mentioned "SSG McGough" before typing his name just now before in my life.


"Why the airy dismissal of the truth of the charge that James Webb is a closet pedophile"

Because I don't know and I don't care. I **do** believe I mentioned that.


"...and the lack of concern over Ann Coulter's obnoxious assertions regarding Max Cleland's service in Vietnam"

Because she is one of the legions of cheerleaders and that is her job. "Rah rah, yay home team." Who cares?


"Why do you comment on issues about which you declare you don't give a damn, and have no relevant facts to offer?"

I am making fun of those who DO give a damn about cheerleaders, who DO think their cheerleading is relevant or uniquely outrageous, who DO think that the descriptions of those who babble about those who do what they do are the real issue.


"Really, I don't get it."

I know you don't. That's what makes you so ridiculous.


"they're about little things like the accuracy of what is being said by GOP cheerleaders "

Great. These cheerleaders are not, and will not be, accurate. There. Feel better?

But they are in no way any different, any more or less accurate, any more or less honorable, with any more or less integrity, or from any more or less the insufferably self-righteous boobs than the cheerleaders on the other sideline.

You know ... the ones that you spend all *your* time defending the veracity of in the face of the sniping by those whose Fortunate Sons were targeted. Olberman [two Ns?] is the left-side Coulter; Sullivan the lefty-Rush. All of them are cheerleaders.

Quoting the quoters is a waste of time.

Hey there, RWILYMZ. I ask: "Why the little jab at SSG McGough?"

You answer: "Who? I don't think I've ever mentioned 'SSG McGough' before typing his name just now before in my life."

Uh, SSG McGough is the decorated, wounded veteran who made the anti-Rush commercial that is the topic of this thread. You jumped on this thread to give SSG McGough a little jab. One moment, SSG McGough was worthy of your contempt. Now, you say you don't even know who the guy is. Too funny!

So, again: why do you waste your time on these threads? You profess not to care about the subject at hand (cheerleaders vs. veterans), don't have your facts straight (Al Gore did not serve in Vietnam! Al Gore was the inspiration for Fortunate Son!), and seem to possess this odd contempt for veterans (SSG McGough should shut up! Al Gore's service in Vietnam that I didn't previously know about was the stuff of nerds! Blah, blah, blah!)

I repeat: dude, you are bizarre.

And I'm sorry for offering the thought that you're not a simpleton: anyone who confuses the pious meanderings of Andrew Sullivan with the hateful and factually-challenged bile of Rush Limbaugh is just as ridiculous as the rest of us.

Some cheerleaders really are worse than others.... and right now the GOP has the most toxic of the bunch.

If Coulter's bullschitt about Max Cleland doesn't get your goat (you know, as a veteran and military expert) than what would?

"Uh, SSG McGough is the decorated, wounded veteran who made the anti-Rush commercial that is the topic of this thread."

So?


"You jumped on this thread to give SSG McGough a little jab"

You still don't get it.

I "jumped on here" to give people *who think this is relevant* a jab.


"why do you waste your time on these threads?"

The answer ain't changing, no matter how many times you ask it.

Do a screen print, cut it out and paste it on your monitor:

I am making fun of those who DO give a damn about cheerleaders, who DO think their cheerleading is relevant or uniquely outrageous, who DO think that the descriptions of those who babble about those who do what they do are the real issue.


"anyone who confuses the pious meanderings of Andrew Sullivan with the hateful and factually-challenged bile of Rush Limbaugh is just as ridiculous as the rest of us."

I have a feeling there are dozens lurking in the shadows who would be very willing, upon request, to assert that the factually-challenged of that pair would be Herr Sullivan, while Rush might -- **might** -- be reduced to "pious".


"right now the GOP has the most toxic of the bunch."

Uh huh. According to ... those who don't like 'em? What else would they think?

Now what would those who think otherwise say? Or does that not matter because they are wrong from the start ... because you say so?


From my perspective, the whole thing is poisonous. ...and that makes the disingenuous twaddle blogged out by Sully to be every bit as deleterious as the bloviations of Limbaugh. Now, that's just my *opinion* of the matter, which doesn't stack up, naturally, against the FACT you uttered above ... which is fact because you say it is.

So it appears that your opinions have been promoted to fact and everyone else's opinions have been decertified to "toxicity", and we should simply genuflect in your general direction. Would five times a day suffice?


...or, on the other hand, no. I'll continue to make fun of you for being so infatuated with political cheerleading.


"If Coulter's bullschitt...doesn't get your goat ...than what would?"

Seriously? people doing my job for me. Random folks, on the street or public babble-boards, either one. You start redefining the terms I have to use everyday in order for me to do my job, you're effectively telling me that you can do it better. And when I correct them, they get all peevish and petulant and start calling me names.

I'm not an auto mechanic, or a CPA, and when I want my car fixed or my taxes done, I don't stand around saying "here's what you should do" and "the tax laws say *this*, not *that*". Yet I don't get the same courtesy from tens, possibly hundreds, of millions of my fellow citizens, all of whom have seen Hogans Heroes and two sittings of Saving Private Ryan, and therefore they know all about how to wage war, how to plan one, who to invite, what decorations to use ... like that.


I don't believe you were serious, but I thought I'd tell you anyway.

Doing your job for you? Hogan's Heroes? Man, I don't even know what you're talking about!

I don't even know what your job is (except that it is military-oriented and vital, and provides you all the answers about war and foreign policy), and still don't know why you are obsessed with ridiculing those (like me) who get their nose out of joint when the Coulters and Limbaughs of the world demean the combat service of guys like Max Cleland and the so-called Phony Soldiers.

Each of has has our peculiar interests, don't we, given our own yesterdays?

If you think I lack balance for being concerned about this narrow issue, then you might want to check your own balance-meter: I mean, man, your interest in this subject is not to offer facts, but to simply register scorn for those of us who wallow in the mud while you keep your gaze lifted to the Big Picture.

Anyway, this has become tedious and tail-chasing, don't you think? Catch up with you on another thread at another time! Until then, good day!

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