I thought this was a joke, but it isn't. I found it as I have spent several days trying to ascertain the fate of Taliban Leader Mansoor Dadullah, targeted in a recent air raid in Afghanistan.
Despite the best efforts of Taliban propagandists, claiming massive civilian causalities, as Rusty eventually posted, there were hardly any civilian causalities at all when the story was fleshed out.
Now weeks later, here comes an atrocious article illustrated with the worst of images (graphic depiction of a child in hospital) claiming massive civilian causalities and giving our enemies all the propaganda it could want under the heading of a US-based college professor: Marc W. Herold. And based upon his web page, there's no reason to doubt his contribution in distributing it. Read his article - then read the truth - there's no getting around it, he is distributing pure enemy propaganda.
Update: From a comment by Steven Den Beste - Herold also did some spinning along these lines in 2002.
Marc W. Herold
Associate Professor of Economic Development & Women's Studies
xxxxxxxxxxxFields of Specialization:
Third-world economic development; Brazil; civilian casualties of modern air wars; women and development; international studies; postmodernism; political economy
Education:Ph.D. University of California, Berkeley
M.B.A. University of California, Berkeley
B.S. Swiss Federal Polytechnic UniversityI have frequently been asked (and criticized) why a development economist should be concerned or know anything about, civilian casualties of war? My answer has been that in some thirty years of teaching and researching about the Third World my focus has been upon how “development” has affected the everyday lives of people. Sadly, such development has created an “economic body count.” My interest in civilian casualties explores how modern wars result in a “war body count,” severely affecting the everyday lives of simple, innocent people struggling to survive. The very same point has recently been made by the former chief economist of the World Bank, Joseph Stiglitz, in his Globalization and Its Discontents (New York: W.W. Norton, 20002) on p. 24.


Marc Herold was the one who came up with an infamous calculation of Afghan civilian casualties after our invasion which purported to show that we'd killed more Afghan civilians than the terrorists had killed here on 9/11.
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/002915.php
Posted by: Steven Den Beste | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 01:39 AM
He's in the Women's Studies Dept for gosh sakes, and got his advanced degrees from beserkly... Need we to probe any deeper?
Posted by: Gmax | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 09:35 AM
He is, it is obvious from his writing, a propagandist not a scholar. But then, how could a scholar come from a Women's Studies program? I noticed there were no comments whatever under his post. Perhaps very few read it. There may be some now. In the running for the Ward Churchill Cup?
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 09:44 AM
Comical. The 'necks resent anyone with an edukation. They look for slogans and 'tough talk'. Sounds like that surge is finishing up with a 'bang' btw. Well done!
Posted by: chris | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 09:59 AM
Hey, chrissie, if your panties are dry yet, why don't you head on down to the recruiter, and sign up for the good war in Afghanistan. The military still has Clinton's policy of don't ask, don't tell, so keep your gayness to yourself.
And you'll be right there, so you can verify civilian casualties for us, so we don't have to take lying bastards like Marc Herold's word for it. We can take a lying bastard like yours. Hahaha!
Posted by: templar knight | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 10:19 AM
Panties? Gay? Is this all you have? You should come out of your redneck closet, you might not be as angry.
Posted by: chris | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Mr christamfordmum, I didn't know you were such a highly educated individual. Of course how would I know that, I have only your scribblings to go by.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 10:45 AM
A drunk was dragged in front of a judge. The judge says, "You've been brought here again for drinking." The drunk says, "Great, I'll have a shot of muscatel." Babaam, Bap.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - Web Reconnaissance for 08/16/2007
A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often.
Posted by: David M | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 11:04 AM
"Useful idiot."
J Stalin
Posted by: Doc | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 12:05 PM
"Fields of Specialization:
Third-world economic development; Brazil; civilian casualties of modern air wars; women and development; international studies; postmodernism; political economy
Education:"
Wow. What an eclectic. I wonder how he keeps all his knowledge straight. "...women and development;" confuses me, though. Amidst all that other high-powered and somewhat obvious learning, is he studying the development of women's tits?
Posted by: Phoenix | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 12:36 PM
the key phrase in herold's little 'graph o' bullshit' is how he describes other people: they live their "simple, innocent lives". **classic** liberal condescension. you see, *other* people - not liberals, of course, who are deep and smart and more important than everyone else - other people are simple and childlike. basically good, if led to the proper conclusions by their liberal betters, but needing to be kept "down on the village" for their own good. like in olden days! the ones where the prof said they all shared!
oh sure, they try to get ahead, and have tv's and running water, but liberals know that's not the way to happiness. so - one way or another - they do their best to repress them. MUCH better from the liberal standpoint that they remain "simple, innocent" farmers, and coopers, and shrubbers.
like in the movies! liberals LOVE movies!
anyway. "just do as we tell you!"
Posted by: bloodrage bob | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Yawn. Any of you heroes seen bin Laden? It HAS been almost 6 years since Iraq attacked us on 9/11. Any plans to 'smoke him out' and 'bring him to justice'??
Didn't think so. Carry on!!
PS - I think that cons LOVE movies too. Evidence: They elected (twice) a senile B-actor whose most prominent roles were alongside a talking chimp.
Posted by: chris | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Chris, you have some imprints of vinyl on your forehead. I think it's from kissing your own ass.
Posted by: Phoenix | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 12:59 PM
I think OBL may be severely dead, injured or otherwise unpresentable, Mr christamfordmum. Perhaps he had his eyebrows singed by a MOAB. Or perhaps he has merely gained a lot of weight.
Posted by: Fred Beloit | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 01:31 PM
Chris (the latest incarnation of al-BoobInStamford) also told us po' dumb 'necks from the back end of Ten-ah-see... that he is a highly edjoo-ma-kayted guy with not one, but TWO advanced degrees.
Yet, for all of his eloquent pontifications of the likes of:
"--- Comical. The 'necks resent anyone with an edukation. They look for slogans and 'tough talk'. Sounds like that surge is finishing up with a 'bang' btw. Well done! ---"
...one would hardly think that he has anything of substance to this thread.
But, unlike the Kos'tards, who revel in the security of their echo chambers by squelching all dissent... we will gladly let you compound the display of your foolishness by each additional utterance you make.
Cheers, mate - and btw, there are doctors who can help you overcome that syphilitic damage you've incurred through all that gaying around of yours.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 01:41 PM
And as for "Perfesser" Herold, I wouldn't right mind if the CIA paid him a visit in the wee hours to discuss his aiding and abetting of the enemy.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 01:43 PM
As a friend of the LORD, any thoughts on why he hates the Peruvians?
Amen, christian soldier!!
Posted by: chris | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 02:12 PM
Who's angry, chrissie? You're the angry one here, I just respond to your idiotic posts. And for someone who claims to be educated, well, it's just another lie from a liar. You wouldn't know the truth if it kicked you in your fat ass.
Oh, yeah, have a nice day!
Posted by: templar knight | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 05:05 PM
"---
As a friend of the LORD, any thoughts on why he hates the Peruvians?
Amen, christian soldier!!
---"
And what does that have to do with anything?
Compound thy foolishness, dear fool, compound.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 05:34 PM
Hmmm...no support for the article, just some troll calling people names and pretending that equates to sauve, cosmopolitan, educated discourse on "weighty matters".
That sounds about par for the opposition. Nothing really to add to the convo so they resort to name calling.
Posted by: kat-missouri | Thursday, August 16, 2007 at 07:08 PM
Kat ... from what I see, chris is another parrot, just like odanny or Lord HaWW HaWW who troll the milblogs we read.
Yep, par for the course ... mouths 1609m wide, intellects 25.4mm deep.
Posted by: Rich Casebolt | Saturday, August 18, 2007 at 09:32 AM