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well, alright then....
another wingnut melts down.

geez, the liberal take-over hasnt even begun yet - it wont even start for another 18 months! And then you get 8, maybe 16 years of....

whoa, maybe you would be happier checking out now....

"What I wouldn't give for a pressurized canister of industrial strength bug spray right about now."

Zyklon-B is a heck of an insecticide, I hear. Kills liberals and other dissidents dead. :P

Now, now, boys, let's calm down. We need to savor their self-destructive instincts, though not of course those that include our destruction along with theirs. Let us think in terms of defeating them at the ballot box. In order to do that, we need better candidates, locally and nationally, and later term limits.

This was bound to happen eventually. I've long been under the impression that the establishment Democrats like Pelosi and others were taking advantage of the passion (and votes) of the netroots left and that eventually there would be a confrontation. The question now is how far left they're willing to go to placate the Sheehan crowd and how it will play to the general public. Bill Bennett has some interesting thoughts on the matter over at NRO:

"And, as my friend Bill Kristol pointed out yesterday, not one of the Democratic party candidates are going to the DLC convention this summer, they are, however, all going to the Daily Kos convention."

http://tinyurl.com/22wjhz

Seriously, I'm hoping the Sheehan wing of the democrats manages to keep it together until after the elections.

They are quite frankly the best recruiting tool the republicans have.

Republican recruiting tool? How about all of those amazing 'victories' in Iraq and that impressive carrier landing that your leader made. How's that patriotic stuff working out?

"How about all of those amazing 'victories' in Iraq"

You mean like getting AQ to drop dimes on their fellow AQ? That seems pretty "amazing" to me. Harry and Nancy must be crapping their pants when they read about stuff like this.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2121006.ece

Time to step out of your two year old news time warp Chris. Its not 2005 anymore and there's a new sheriff in town who's been draining the swap.

Wow. What a great 'victory'. How about this one?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070723/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

6 years and still can't defeat the Taliban. Tsk, tsk. Thankfully Iraq is a big success.

"6 years and still can't defeat the Taliban."

The Taliban doesn't screw up as much alienating the populace as AQ does in Iraq. Everyone (except you apparently) knows a traditional insurgency takes ~12 years to defeat under normal circumstances.

That the Taliban is still around after 6, in some of the most challenging terrain on the planet I would add, is hardly surprising at all.

You can do better Chris, I know you can.

chrisstamfordmum, you ARE behind news of the surge. It's working. Read this: "http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2121006.ece

That's great news! Perhaps soon Iraq can resume to the nice little civil war it had going before these 'terrurists' showed up. You're turning the corner!

"Perhaps soon Iraq can resume to the nice little civil war it had going before these 'terrurists' showed up."

There was no "civil war". In case you're not aware, the incident that cause the media to declare this turned out to be faked news.

"Zyklon-B is a heck of an insecticide, I hear. Kills liberals and other dissidents dead."

"Of course, some kids will simply just go on to do some very evil things, even if the parents have done right - we humans are all evil by nature - but over all, those families that take the time to discipline their kids and bring them up in the teaching of the Lord - in LOVE, these will usually go forth to bear good fruit."

This obviously is not the right place for an intelligent (or even respectful) debate. That being said, I am curious as to how one explains the fact that the two posts quoted above were apparently written by the same person. The first one shows unwavering support for the ignorant and hateful views of our host, while the other one espouses a pretty mainstream view of Christian values. If someone wants to point me to the part in the Bible saying that the person who opposes war is an insect who deserves to die, I'd appreciate it. I must have missed that week of Sunday School.

I'm not meaning to judge, but I am genuinely curious as to how one reconciles apparently genuine Christian beliefs with the hatred shown on this page. (And before you write me off as a left-wing lunatic, I'll admit that the dialogue here actually is less extreme than that on Daily Kos, which I refuse to read even though I frequently vote Democratic.)

Ahh, remember the good old days, when conservatives were the ones protecting the Constitution? Bush and his incompetent cronies are using that sacred document like a roll of Charmin and Dan Riehl is an appreciative Mr. Whipple. What a sad spectacle.

moderate Christian locust:

Try to read what I posted a wee bit more carefully. I was poking at Dan's choice of words for "squashing liberals", with an insecticide metaphor. Plus, you misquoted me - I wrote:


"---

'What I wouldn't give for a pressurized canister of industrial strength bug spray right about now.' (note that this is a pull quote from Dan's original post!)

Zyklon-B is a heck of an insecticide, I hear. Kills liberals and other dissidents dead. :P

---"

Note the character string of a colon followed by an uppercase P, such as this - :P

In the informal mode of internet communication most of us are aware of, this string of characters - known as a "razzing smilie" or a "razzing emoticon", the use of which typically implies a "tongue in cheek" attitude on the part of the writer.

Compound that with my earliest reply to Dan's statement about desiring pressurized canisters of insecticides, and perhaps now you may clearly understand the tenor and meaning of my reply.


While I find most "Kossacks" (I might as well be very literal here, lest you mistake my meaning again: I mean the typical diarists and fringe liberals who typically post on DailyKos) to be incredibly annoying and childish, not too mention missing a few cards from their deck in many cases... I do not advocate their extermination.

They are doing a rather terrific job of wrecking themselves and the Democratic Party without any external help.

Bordo ... can you prove your assertions, or are you just another Leftist who believes that a statement by you is truth enough?

Gen. Patton described you, right along with Donnie, here:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/07/obamas-astonish.html#comment-77099108

seekeronos,

I assume you intended to include a “:)”, “:P”, or similar tag after your statement that I misquoted you, since you can’t be serious. I’ll admit that I left out the “:P” (which I must confess I’d never seen in 13 years of regular Internet use, including blogging and writing HTML) after the entire sentence that I copied and pasted from your post, right down to the period. Perhaps you meant that I took your quote out of context by omitting the oh-so-valuable “:P” that followed the sentence, but I can’t see how a 100% accurate quote can be a “misquote.”

In any event, I must point out that my comments were not based on a "literal" reading of your post--I did not think for a second that you literally intended to gas liberals to death, or I would have had much harsher things to say. I don't even think that Dan "literally" intends to kill liberals, although his post above suggests that he is disturbingly close to the edge. (Anger management, anyone?)

My only point was that I find it difficult to understand how people who are apparently devout Christians can simply nudge and wink at the hatred that underlies Dan's post above. Even assuming that Dan’s stated disregard for human life is a "joke" (which I assume it is, although it’s lacking the humor one normally finds in jokes), the venom is real.

I share your view that the extremists on Daily Kos do no favors for the Democratic Party, although I've read enough blogs on both sides of the spectrum to know that neither side has a monopoly on hateful, ignorant extremists. Consequently, I don’t think it’s accurate to say that the left-wing nutjobs on Daily Kos are “wrecking” the Democratic Party any more than it is to say the right-wing wackos on various blogs (including, sometimes, this one) are destroying the Republican Party. In my view, the wackos on the fringe balance each other out in terms of the harm they do to their respective parties, and I’m just thankful that there are a lot more of us who are somewhere in the middle.

" In my view, the wackos on the fringe balance each other out in terms of the harm they do to their respective parties, and I’m just thankful that there are a lot more of us who are somewhere in the middle." Well, MCL, self-congratulation is always heartwarming to read. I wonder, however, how "we" and "us" know we are somewhere in the middle. The New York Times, CBS, and AP think they are somewhere in the middle, which is just silly.

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