I've Had It With Republicans

Having voted Republican in every election for the past 30 or so years, it is increasingly difficult to comprehend how I am going to be able to pull the lever for a candidate aligned with that party in the future, unless or until they get their act at least halfway together.

This is brilliant - push to get Cheney out, as if that amounts to anything serious, other than perhaps a distraction from GOP failures on immigration and spending. Oh, and while they're at it, hey, let's get out of Iraq. Gee, where did they get that bad idea? If there's anything worse than making the wrong choice, it's making it well after it means anything and also after there's been more than enough time to have thought it through and make it because you seriously thought it was the right thing to do.

Democrats aren't an option for me, neither is Bloomberg, but I sense a serious protest vote, or lack of any vote in my future. At the risk of being politically incorrect, is it really worth voting in an election when D stands for Dumb-ass and R stands for retarded? Perhaps not. I could always do something constructive like go fishing on election day. I can't think of a time when I have been more disenchanted with America's political class and that is saying something, as I basically distrust them to start.

Comments

[Fred Beloit]

"Wow, Bush really screwed you guys! First he sent your kids off to a war based on trumped up intel, then he sold your jobs to Asia, and finally he let the Mexicans take their pick of any remaining work! Mission accomplished, indeed!!!!

Posted by: Rudy | Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 03:21 PM"
Oh, Rudy, Bush didn't send anybody's kids off to war. He AND THE CONGRESS allowed volunteers to do what they voluntarily chose to do. If I voluntarily join the Army, how could I be shocked, shocked to find I am in a war. Oh and, Rudy, the intel may have been trumped up but the entire West believed it was true. Bill Clinton, WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENTt, believed it was true. He said so. It is on videotape. So who "trumped it up"? Oh, Rudy, Bush let the Mexicans "take their pick" of any remaining work? Well, they didn't seem to have picked very wisely. They have some of the toughest, dirtiest jobs around. Bush sold jobs to Asia? He's sure been a busy boy. Just how did he sell jobs to Asia? What a load, Rudy. Ten lbs of s--t in your 5-lb bag.

[Fred Beloit]

The trouble with sitting out an election is that guys like Rudy will be electing the future leaders. What a thought!

[Zainuddin]

When voting for your senator just check if he voted for shamnesty and if he did then vote against him and just forget party affiliation. If enough of them get knocked off then the senate as a whole will get a message about who owns this country. It may take us till 2012 to get the whole lot. You can always vote your own party guy for congress. Thank God we won't have a Bush on the ticket. Jeb can forget the white house. His brother has made sure of that.

[templar knight]

Hahaha, Bobby. When you own the company it's hardly underemployment. And with oil prices what they are, and have been, for the past three years, frankly I could retire and post all the time if I so desired. But I've got a few years left in me, so I work when I want. You're a jealous bastard, I see.

And speaking of Mexicans, I'll be down on the Mexican border this weekend. So I won't be posting, and you can have a rest, HairyQueer. Have a nice day!

[jong]

No everyone didn't believe that Iraq had WMD, etc. And it doesn't matter what Clinton believed, he wasn't president and he's not that one that lead us into a bogus war - it was Bush's decision and it's his war. Personal responsibility applies to more than just welfare moms.

The Republicans scheduled the War vote just before the election so they could pummel anyone not voting yes as being unpatriotic, a friend to terrorists, etc.

And much of the intel was either trumped up or any dissenting opinions were extinguished. The VP visiting lowly clerks. Gee, I wonder why? Aluminum tubes? Bogus and the CIA had largely said so. Mushroom clouds? The administration had been told by senior Iraqis that Saddam's nuclear program had ended. Drones that were going to cross the Atlantic and attack. us. Give me a break - we'd been bombing the country for years whenever they made any move we didn't like.

And we had inspectors in Iraq to look for WMDs before Bush decided to pull them out. Yeah, it wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than this stupid war.

Bush planned, started and screwed up the war. It's his war. The buck stops with him. Period.

[Phoenix]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[bloodrage bob]

oh, good: a liberal tells us lies about iraq, 9-11, etc. just as if it were the truth.

and will the liberal share with us what *her* party's ideas for 'a proper response to 9-11' were? hmmm? of course not. it's the dem mantra: just bash bush; offer no specific alternatives; get that power.

so howzabout it, jong? i personally have run off 5 liberals from this here very blog with the dreaded Question They Dare Not Answer. you willing to try? "since bush is all evil & shit; tricked us about WMD's, etc; what is *your* idea of a proper & proportionate response to the premeditated murder of 3000 american civilians? bearing in mind that idiotic slogans like 'we need to reach out to the muslim pigs' won't get it done, and remembering that the sainted liberal FDR started a **world war** over fewer than one-third as many casualties. care to enlighten us?"

[jong]

My version's a helluva lot closer to the Truth than Bush's version.

Life's wonderful Bob. Howzit going with you? Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. "Muslim Pigs". Nice to know exactly the kindof mindset you have.

Here ya go Bob:

Proper and Appropriate = Afghanistan

Stupid and Moronic = Iraq since it had nothing, zip, nada to do with 9/11.

[templar knight]

Yeah right, jong. Many of you libs are now calling for a retreat from Afghanistan. A better answer would have been nothing, or perhaps apologizing for backing Israel, or maybe agonizing on what you had done to elicit such a reaction from the Islamists.

[jong]

Hey Templar, please cite some mainstream liberal politicians calling for us to leave Afghanistan.

Those are my views, and they have been before either war started. They don't fit your idea of how I should think, tough.

[templar knight]

Look, LOL, I don't care how you think. I said many libs are calling for a retreat from Afghanistan, not all, nor any so-called "mainstream libs". But it's coming. I'll bet you money on it, as the first calls are a trial balloon for more. Just remember this post when I remind you of it.

[jong]

OK, how many? I'm saying you'd be lucky to find more than one or two Senators or Reps. And that ain't many. ROTFLMAO.

[bloodrage bob]

oh. "just afghanistan" is your sad, pathetic idea of a proper response to 9-11, jong?

now that's interesting. beloved (yet grossly incompetent) liberal icon FDR attacked half the known world in response to fewer than 1000 US servicemen being killed. yet your idea of a "response" to 3 times as many deaths - and *civilian* deaths, at that: MUCH worse - is to knock off exactly 1(!) fly-blown islamic shithole. (but then again, there are NO islamic countries that *aren't* flyblown shitholes, now are there?)

yeah, THAT'll show 'em we mean business! those islamic PIGS (you likee?)(i got the idea to call them "pigs", and "apes" from various *muslim* websites. they use those terms to describe jews and non-muslims. i never ever hear you caring liberals squawk about those words in THAT context, so i just naturally figured it's ok to call *them* that.) the islamic PIGS will SUREly get the message THEN. uh-huh. bush is a moronic halfwit conservative-in-name-only, to be sure, but even HE managed to muster up the balls to retaliate on more than just one country. your "one-100th of FDR's response" is certainly indicative of the overwhelming feminization (some bad people would say "pussification") of the democrat party, and all liberals in general, wouldn't you agree? well, what the hell. they just murdered mere american citizens, after all. it's not like they burned down a FOREST; or built a REFINERY or something **really** evil, right?

"afghanistan". LOL tell me, jong, how exactly DO you liberals live without a spine?

[jong]

FDR's dead. Get over it. And Al Qaeda ain't comparable to WWII Germany or Japan, who actually had huge militaries, very advanced technology and real industrial might.

The rest of your post, well it reads like someone in a bloodrage. Ugly, hateful stuff there. Might I suggest counseling?

[gashandler]

I feel your pain, Dan. Glad to hear I'm not alone. Only thing keeping me from jumping ship now is that I want to be able to vote in the next primary (and there aren't a whole lot of other choices). If this immigration bill passes it would pretty much be the last nail for me.

Chaos, you can't compare Reid's failure to end a war to the GOP attempting to push a bill through that most conservatives (and Americans in general) do not like. Really not a fair comparison at all. Reid is at least attempting to do what his base wants. Bush is attempting to do what his base does *not* want. Apples and oranges. Didn't realize the GOP was lousy at raising money and getting votes. Brilliant analysis.

I'm actually proud that conservatives are pissed off at the GOP now. Shows that we aren't a bunch of rabid demagogues willing to support Republican leaders just because they're Republican.

[Jamie]

It's called ABANDONING FAILED POLICIES, Dan. The Republicans that have been in power since 2001 have achieved nothing less than abject failure. They are fleeing from their failed policies like rats from a sinking ship.

[bloodrage bob]

jong, your curiously tepid and bloodless 'response' to the murder of 3000 of your countrymen is, IMHO, indicative of more than mere liberal pussification personified. more than just 'another typical liberal mindlessly repeating the dogma & slogans teacher made her memorize'.

no, to me, your contemptible notion that we should just somehow "get OVER it, dude" in re the 9-11 outrage seems to be to be symptomatic of deeper psychological problems: gender confusion, perhaps, or unresolved oedipal issues. it WOULD certainly explain your posts. are you perhaps morbidly obese? ideas such as yours ARE consistent with the foolish notion that 'food is love'. that 'mommy and the islamic pigs will love me if only i do exactly as they say and clean my plate!' the self-destructive proclivities you've evinced are certainly classic warning signs for the huge crackup that's clearly in your near future.

(shakes head paternally) jong, jong, jong. fat, neurotic and stupid is no way to go through life.

perhaps you should look into therapy. check with mother: ask her if it's ok.

[seekeronos]

I'll have to disagree with the "vote for the other guy approach" only where it is clear that both the incumbent (R) senator voted for the shamnesty bill and it is apparent that his (D) competition would have voted for it.

In such a case, I'll either leave it blank or if I can, go for the wacky spoiler vote candidate from the "Revolutionary Muskrat Trapping Party", or failing that, I'll pencil in "Mickey Mouse".

Of course, I'm doubtful that will be an issue, as my senators are Hitlary Clinton and UpChuck Screwmer (Schumer) -- both of whom want to grant blanket citizenship to all foreign latinos clear on down to Panama.

As for the GOPs, I'm afraid that they are fast becoming the new Whigs. Conservatives might do well to start thinking about forming a new party structure, and encourage other conservative Americans to do likewise... provided that the "Revolucion de La Raza" a.k.a. Civil War II doesn't kick off (watch for the new race wars to start in CA and spread like wildfire thru the southwest/Aztlanland and thence to the majority Negro pockets in the deep south).

[jong]

Read my post again - It's FDR's Dead - Get over it. But why should anyone expect any attempt at honest debate from a guy that chooses a moronic handle like "Bloodrage Bob".

Here's one for ya Bloodrage - from Fox News:

If there is an all-out war between the United States and various radical Muslim groups worldwide, who would you rather have in charge — Democrats or Republicans?

Democrats 41%
Republicans 38%
Both the same
(not listed) 9%
Don't know
(not listed) 12%

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/062807_release_web.pdf

[bloodrage bob]

caint hepp but notice that ol' jong is going the pussification route, again: abandoning quaint concepts like "honor"; "avenging our murdered dead"; and "national pride" for more meaningful things like....polling data.

how very feminine of him/her. hey! jong! are you perchance lightweight sissyboy john edwards? are you going to have your wife call in to explain how important polls are?

also, why is fdr's response to pearl harbor not relevant to 9-11 in your pealike brain? i thought you liberals were big on precedent?? and "because i don't want it to count!" is not an acceptable answer, mrs. edwards.

[jong]

Over-compensating a bit, Bloodrage? Name-calling doesn't reflect well on you or your arguments.

The poll reflects the judgment of the public that Bush has largely failed in Iraq and the war on terror. Even more, what used to be the main Republican strength - strong on defense - is now a Democratic strength. And that's from a Fox News Poll. That spells big, big trouble for Republican candidates.

It means that the closer we get to election time without signs of success in Iraq, the more Republican senators and reps are going to peel off and start worrying about their own re-election rather than what Bush wants.

And the Republican presidential candidates are caught between their base which supports the War in Iraq and the general electorate, which doesn't. A Republican party that goes into the election calling for stay the course in Iraq is risking a Democratic landslide.

Looking forward to your next round of namecalling. Try to be a little more creative. The last ones were getting a bit, well stale. They were so sixth grade.

[bloodrage bob]

poor dumb jong. like ziffy, and all the "other" halfwit liberal sockpuppets the DNC pays the princely $6 an hour to troll on this here blog, (saaaay, jong: are you ziffy?), he/she's decided that since he/she can't win the day by endlessly chanting the statist slogans teacher made them memorize back in school, he/she will just try the classic old liberal standby tactic: get the last word in & claim victory.

pore stupid jong. your pathetic excuses for 'reason' & 'logic' destroyed and in shambles; your sorry feeble attempts at psychoanalysis brushed away like the wispy little nothings they are; and *now* the mean ol' conservative won't let you get the last word in!!

you must be pretty near *tears* about now, huh? i'll wait for your mendacious denial of this.

[jong]

ROTFLMAO - Weak, weak, weak. I was expecting more, I guess. I'm going to half to downgrade you to "BloodSimple Bob" if you can't do better.

Back to something relevant: The Republican Party risks going the way of the Whigs. More and more young people - under 25 - self-identify as liberals / Dems. Additionally, the Republicans insistence on draconian immigration policy will drive Hispanics - the fastest growing minority - into the arms of the Dems. The questions now is what's the face of the Republican Party in five years. If they continue to push Iraq and immigration as core issues, they may simply shrink to irrelevance and be replaced by something more centrist.

Come on Bob, you need to get back on your game, earn your name, and BRINGIT.

[bloodrage bob]

this is so predictable: BB says something the idiot liberal jong can't answer, so the idiot liberal types something - ANYthing - in, and claims victory.

again, following the classic liberal technique of "the winner is the one who gets the last word in". it's why hillary thinks she's gonna win the presidency: she just never shuts up. mention her getting booed off the stage at the WTC thing, (why'd they do that again?), she'll deny it. (after all, her friends at viacom edited out the massive storm of booing for her on the DVD they made of the event.)

and idiot liberals, lacking the intellectual firepower to - you know - to *remember* stuff, believe her bullshit. pore stupid jong. i don't know if you thinking this'll work on me is more FUNNY, or just more PATHETIC. although, to be fair, this behavior might more properly fall under the rubric of "liberal pussification". hard to tell sometimes.

DANCE, puppet!!

[jong]

Uh, the tile of the thread is "I've Had It With Republicans". My last two posts are mostly about the state of the Republican Party. Yours, not so much.

Actually, I hope Hillary doesn't get the nomination.

Back to Republicans: Senator Lugar basically said the other day that the surge has failed. That's pretty much a preview of where the Republicans are headed on Iraq. No doubt come September we'll hear how "we're making progress", but barring major progress in Iraq, Republicans will start to vote with Democrats to bring the fiasco to an end.

Ya must be hell on the playground Bob.

[Fred Beloit]

How are you Lefties going to decide what policies are good and what ones are bad when Bush is gone? Since hating him is your raison d'etre, I imagine on his last day in office all of you too will disappear.

[jong]

Same say you survived when Clinton left. Actually, I'll be celebrating. Stop by, I'll buy you a couple cold ones.

[bloodrage bob]

mwuhahahahahaaaaa!!!!

dance, jongocchio! dance, my ungainly puppet! do as your master bids you!! DANCE!!

[jong]

The Republicans are waiting around hoping an undistinguised ex-senator, now Hollywood actor, will save them from Giuliani/Romney/McCain. Problem is, all those guys have publicly stated they want to send MORE troops Iraq. And with stories like the one below, and the public's overwhelming distaste for this war, that pretty much insures a Republican loss. The surge, just like the Bush Presidency, is a bust.

***
"The deaths brought to 99 the number of U.S. troops to die in Iraq this month, according to an Associated Press count. The toll for the past three months — 329 — made it the deadliest such period for GIs since the war began in March 2003."

[bloodrage bob]

...and later that day, somewhere deep in that surreal place known as "jongland", a high, keening, snivelling wail filled the air. a terrible sound: redolent of pain, anguish, suffering, and and a furious rage borne of thwarted childish desires.

"Nooooo.....NOOOOOOOOO.......the mean ol' conservative's done it AGAIN!!!! he just WON'T let me claim victory by having the last word!!"

we leave the sad little scene now, secure in our knowledge that - once again - the liberal marionette will take up her dance in response to master's firm tug upon the strings that control her and run her life. helpless in the grip of her crushing dogma; not smart enough to think her way out of her predicament; doomed to forever act in ways programmed into her by the never-to-be-questioned godlike figure known as "teacher". for her and all like her, denied the pure white light if 'free will' & 'independent thought', lies only the peace of the grave. there - finally - perhaps, she'll be allowed to get the last word in.

but not until then.

[bloodrage bob]

DAMN, that last post was good! i ROCK!!! i should write romance novels for a living, huh? bodice-rippers, maybe. everyone knows all chicks secretly yearn to have a strong man ignore their childish lunatic ravings & knock some sense into them.