Vive Which Revolution?

You can access stories on the Digg controversy via Michelle's post.

Bryan at Hot Air:

My sympathies lie with Kevin on this.

I abhor censorship. And my sympathies may have gone to Kevin at Digg ... until he opted to post the key on his own site.

The Fifth Amendment - in part:

No person shall be held ... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

We already had a revolution in this country, in part, so that each individual might be entitled to private property and not have it confiscated by the government, or stolen by the lawless masses. How quick would the Digg community complainers be to press charges were I, or someone to hack their personal PC's and steal their most personal information, financial or otherwise?

Yesterday, Hugo Chavez moved to strip operational control from the world's largest oil companies ... for the masses.

Be careful of the revolution you seek, particularly when it strikes at the heart of one in which so many Americans fought and died.

Ask yourself, would you willingly hand over that which is yours simply because the masses decided they wanted it? Perhaps not. I know I wouldn't, not without a fight.

Comments

[Zifnab]

"Be careful of the revolution you seek, particularly when it strikes at the heart of one in which so many Americans fought and died.

Ask yourself, would you willingly hand over that which is yours simply because the masses decided they wanted it? Perhaps not. I know I wouldn't, not without a fight."

You know why the masses love Hugo Chavez, Dan? Universal Healthcare.

People who, under the previous regime, worked an 80 hour work week till they got sick or old or injured and were dumped on the side of the road, suddenly have their health and well-being provided to them.

This is why Hillary Clinton will win in Nov '08. Cause she may be an authoritarian thug, but after the last President pissed away half a trillion dollars in the desert, people will respect that at least she's an authoritarian thug who knows how to spend the country's money.

[Fred Beloit]

When do you leave for Venezuela, Zif, my dear friend? You know, Zif, I wonder if you would support this idea, which is long overdue. Let us have a national referendum. The question could be worded this way, just as an example: The primary, main reason the Government of the US exists should be to: A. Provide charitable services to the people. B. Provide military security to the nation. C. Provide free health care to the people D. Make the people happy. E. Ensure civil rights to the people. F. Get out of the way of the peoples' honest efforts to make a living. Only one choice allowed, the main reason. What would you answer to this question (yes, it has flaws).

[LOL]

The fifth amendment only applies to government seizing property. The court has never used it in interpreting copyright law cases. "Public use" refers to eminent domain, not theft and distribution.

You should really have quoted Article I Section 8 Clause 8 if you knew anything about the Constitution.

But wingers don't

[Phoenix]

Yo, Fred. Excellent. :)

Zif,

Does it strike you as blackmail that Chavez has managed to nationalize everything by promising the proles healthcare?

[Dan Riehl]

LOL

Finally a liberal makes a fair point around here ... must be something in his water. Too bad you had nothing to offer about the stealing of private property.

[seekeronos]

"people will respect that at least she's an authoritarian thug who knows how to spend the country's money"...

I don't think so. Here, let's make that a little more accurate:

"People will be fooled into thinking that they are getting a steal of a deal on health care, when in fact, they will be duped by an authoritarian thug (Hillary) who will not only take nearly all of their money, but will also impose many other rules and restrictions on them."

[Zifnab]

"Does it strike you as blackmail that Chavez has managed to nationalize everything by promising the proles healthcare?"

Yes. Worse than blackmail, it's highway robbery. He's not saying "Give the people healthcare or we take your stuff." He's saying, "We're going to take your stuff. Oh, and give the people healthcare."

But to the people, its all the same. They had nothing, now they have healthcare. It's really not a bad deal on their end. How else do you expect people to operate except in their own best interests?

[Wesley]

With you completely. Chavez is a menace and a thief. See:

http://economicdespair.blogspot.com/2007/05/chavez-steals-foreign-assets.html

for a straight-talking assesment of what Chavez did today.

[Hard Right]

You are a flaming moron Zif. Castro gave the people healthcare...which is a total joke. Do you really thing what Chavez will give them will be any better? Like I said, you must be 14 years old.

[Zifnab]

"Do you really thing what Chavez will give them will be any better?"

Better than what? Seriously, what exactly do they have to lose by siding with Chavez? They were impoverished and destitute before he got there and now they are not.

You act like they'd all be sitting at home with wives and kids pulling the standard 9 to 5 if they weren't supporting Chavez. Like this is some sort of opportunistic play by the poor, something brought on by national greed to steal the rich man's big house and fancy car.

These people are living in straw huts in the jungle. Its Chavez or bupkiss, because none of the other political movements seemed particularly interested in supporting them. If they drop their support for Chavez, they get absolutely nothing in return. How is their current situation worse than nothing?

[LOL]

I've made plenty of equally sound points in the past Dan. You just don't like admitting when wrong to a liberal. Why, not even an update with a hat-tip to "reader LOL". how rude.

[Hard Right]

Ummm, Chavez isn't going to help them dumbass. Chavez is only about making himself wealthy/powerful at everyone's expense. The economy was better before Chavez and now it's going into the toilet. You actually think that's better? He's going to take away their freedom and their rights, but that's better?

Zif, I just saw your "letter". You're not 14. You're clearly suffering from Alzheimer's or senile demntia.

[Zifnab]

"The economy was better before Chavez and now it's going into the toilet. You actually think that's better? He's going to take away their freedom and their rights, but that's better?"

Yes, but few of Chavez's supporters benefited from the increased prosperity a stronger economy provided the country. A substance farmer is a substance farmer in boom and in bust.

How would you win over the people from Chavez, HR? What would you, or any Republican, have to offer that would compel the Venezualans to act differently?

The country let the people down. Why would they support anyone other than Chavez? What are their other options?

[ConserView]

"This is why Hillary Clinton will win in Nov '08."

There is no way this will happen. I guess you haven't seen her negative ratings. There is no way that a person with such negative ratings could even get elected dog catcher. IF she is nominated, and that is in serious doubt,
the truth (some say dirt) about her will come in waves. She is the biggest phony on the planet and people see that. Your boy Hussein Obama is your biggest "hope" and that empty suit will be dispatched quickly if he is the nominee of the Democrat party.

[Phoenix]

The country let the people down. Why would they support anyone other than Chavez? What are their other options?

Posted by: Zifnab | Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 05:17 PM

Welcome to socialism, Zif. Sad stuff all the way. "What are their other options?" That is socialism. No options.

[Hard Right]

Ok Zif, I'll explain this in small words so you might understand it.

1) The majority of the people don't support Chavez
2) As bad as they may have it now, it will only get worse

[bud]

"Intellectual property"... isn't. It's a construction out of whole cloth by the legal community designed, as a large portion of all law is, to keep lawyers employed.

Now, before you whiz off into the ozone, I didn't say that all laws were bad. Some laws are necessary... but this one certainly isn't.

And this particular case is an absolutely beautiful example:
no one broke into a building (or a computer) and hoisted it. They derived it by logical analysis of what the code was doing. The public's possesion of this in no way impedes the "rightful owner's" (gaaachhh) use or possesion of it. If I steal their car, they don't have it. The fact the I know those bytes is completely immaterial to whether they know those bytes.

I make my living from "intellectual" work, but I don't delude myself that I'm entitled to the sole possesion of any ideas I come up with. My ones and zeros eventually get turned into concrete products, and those are protected by law, but a strip of code?

Rubbish!

Oh, yeah - Hugo Chavez sucks.

[Dan Riehl]

"not even an update with a hat-tip to "reader LOL". how rude."

Only a liberal; would seek their 15 bloggie minutes for a pseudonym (LOL) based opon about ten intelligent words.

LOL is about right.

[Phoenix]

1) The majority of the people don't support Chavez
2) As bad as they may have it now, it will only get worse

Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, May 02, 2007 at 06:09 PM

The promised oh-so-wonderful healthcare is a bone. Chavez needs to keep the hounds at bay, so he makes a big deal out of providing them all with healthcare while he steals the very life of the country. Socialism demands that the people be kept dependent on the government. That keeps them from rising up..... in more ways than one.