The Case For Ceding Florida To Cuba

Amid reports of six men being shot in drive by shootings in just one Florida neighborhood today, I decided to do some research.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Police said six men were shot about 2:30 p.m. Tuesday in what police described as related drive-by shootings in a Talleyrand neighborhood just northeast of downtown.

Do you realize that in Florida alone, population est. 17,789,000, nearly ten million less then all of Iraq, we stand to have more Americans murdered than were killed in Iraq since March 20, 2003? And don't even think of looking at the numbers of rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults.

2003  924 
2004  946 
2005  883

If Florida isn't a quagmire, than nothing is - and we stand to lose it to the ocean in just a decade or so, according to Al Gore. Even liberals should sign on to the idea, given it's the home of Rush Limbaugh.

It's time to face the facts - Florida is lost. We should give it to Fidel, Hugo Chavez seems to be taking everything else.

PUERTO PIRITU, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela stripped the world's biggest oil companies of operational control over massive Orinoco Belt crude projects on Tuesday, a vital move in President Hugo Chavez's nationalization drive.

The May Day takeover came exactly a year after Bolivian President Evo Morales, a leftist ally of Chavez, startled investors by ordering troops to seize his country's gas fields, accelerating Latin America's struggle to reclaim resources.

Due to murder and mayhem, or Global Warming madness ... it's time to admit that Florida is lost. We should cut our losses, make a deal for some cigars while there's still time and our federal government hasn't banned smoking completely ... yet.

Comments

[Zifnab]

Wasn't that Jeb Bush's turf until just recently? Nice to know Bush the Elder is doing as well with his state as Bush the Younger is doing with Iraq.

I think you make an excellent case for Republicans being incompetent when it comes to containing violence.

[Dan Riehl]

Nice try, Zif wit - but I dont' think you want state government patroling the streets armed. Oh wait, you're aliberal - you just might. The majority of these killings take place in democrat strongholds. But then, knowing that would require that you know something of what you are talking about for a change.

[Zifnab]

"Nice try, Zif wit - but I dont' think you want state government patroling the streets armed."

They're called the police, Dan. And they're crucial to any major city or state if you don't want to constantly have your purse stolen or the windows to your '87 Buick smashed in with a hammer.

We've got the state troopers, the local cops, the FBI, an assortment of options for a crime ridden governor to call upon in the fight to maintain law and order.

Guilianni cleaned up New York with more cops on the street in the den of liberal debauchery that is Time Square. Mayor White, in Houston, did a great job of lowering the crime rate - even in those Democratic Strongholds (see: low rent housing districts) that give Florida so much trouble. Of course Portland, Oregan and Seattle, Washington - hotbeds of liberalism that they are - have some of the lowest crime rates of major cities in the US. Those states are surprisingly blue. What does that tell you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cities_by_Crime_Rate

[bloodrage bob]

of course, ungodly hellhole hotbeds of crime like st. louis; gary, ind.; newark; atlanta; detroit; compton/watts; miami; new orleans; oakland; manhattan above, say, 95th street; baltimore; washington d.c; aaaaaaand the up-and-coming murder capital of the USA, philly......

are all located in "surprisingly blue" states, too.

hmmmm. is there some.....oh, i dunno....some **commonality** that all those cities have in common?

that's right: they're full of democrats.

ever gonna answer phoenix's "9-11" question, ziffy? or confirm my amazingly prescient guess that if you're a "Texan", as you claim, that you live in either austin or montrose? good ol' 77006?? or are you just gonna run away like usual?

[BARRASSO]

Wow even for this blog this argument makes no sense, Florida with an American population of 17,789,000, had more American deaths than Iraq with it's population of 300,000 Americans. Who could have predicted that.

[BARRASSO]

I wonder if Iraq had more violent deaths overall? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I just wonder?

[darcy_lane]

Hey I know you are being facetious but doc w. and I live in Tampa- Florida is a really nice place except some bad apples :)
Why not cede San Francisco, Seattle and maybe Manhatten to France or something, heck Washington State has some pretty bad vote counting probs themselves :D

[BARRASSO]

You probably should not get rid of all those blue state hotspots like San Francisco, Seattle and Manhatten where are the poor red states going to get their welfare from.

[Observer]

Dan

I am from Florida, about 50 miles or so from Jacksonville.

If you read further into the statistics you will see the vast majority of those deaths are black on black crime.

Jacksonville is an unusual situation. Back in the 60's the country voted for consolidation of all the number of small communities and Jacksonville city limits covers all but a small percentage of the entire expanse of Duval County. At one time it was the largest square mile single city in the US until I believe Anchorage, Alaska merged some areas to make it larger.

So basically you are trying to compare what could be almost a country statistics v city statistics.

Most of the stuff is drive by shootings, just like this one was in two locations about four blocks apart.

The area where this occurred is crack city country within a stone's throw of downtown and starts just north of the football stadium. Drive there at night at your own risk. Unless you are a customer of all the various "services" offered there. It's pure turf battle banger country and if you want to ride through there I recommend an uparmored Humvee with live ammo.

[Observer]

Twice in the prior post I should have used "county" not "country". Most probably realized it.

[jong]

Apples to oranges?

In October 2006, estimates of the number of civilian deaths in Iraq ranged from 30,000 - the Bush estimate - to over 600,000 from a team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net has deaths at a minimum of 62760 and a maximum of 68786

Makes Florida look pretty damn safe.

[louis b. wooding]

I live in a little Florida fishing village, Merritt Island, east of Orlando. Home to the Kennedy Space Center. The way the country is going liberal, and our Senate and House are becoming allies with the terrorist, I wouldn't mind if Florida got out of the States. Provided, of course, that Jeb would be Governor of Florida again, and King of the Carribean, and Emporer of Latin America. I'd support him.

[Dan Riehl]

Apples to oranges?

Learn to read - I said American lives. I take it you still know what America is, right? With liberals, it's sometimes hard to know.

[Buzzy]

Dan, you know that the American thing just confuses them. You'll get stuff like "you mean American like all those illegal aliens" or "American like those poor Palestinians who've never even set foot here". It's lost on them.

Can we now just declare that the welfare state is a lost cause and get a timetable for withdrawl of all our tax dollars.

[jong]

Your comparison is nonsensical. Learn to write.

[Hard Right]

Jong, you should change your name to Bong.

[Fred Beloit]

Dan, as a Floridian I very much appreciate your pointing out that murders decreased in Florida. Your figures: 2004 = 946, 2005 = 883 show a decrease of 63 or 6.7%. Congratulations are in order, so congratulations Florida. Of course we are still about as dangerous as a tour in Iraq. I suppose the Dems will be calling for a a humiliating surrender here shortly. I do not oppose this, as long as they leave first.

[templar knight]

...where are the poor red states going to get their welfare from....

If those "blue state hotspots" would just leave, believe me, we would be more than happy to take our chances. Trust me on this one, Vinnie.

[Phoenix]

Everything "Jong" says is like a zipless fuck. Full of pound and fury, satisfying nothing.

[jon]

Always enlightening to post on this board.

Phoenix - seven word quote, you got two wrong. Par for the course.

No wonder the Republican party is going down the tubes - you guys live in a fantasyland. But if Dan wants to jettison Florida, fine by me.

All hail President Gore!

[Phoenix]

"Phoenix - seven word quote, you got two wrong. Par for the course."

Not as if I didn't plan it that way, dumbhead.

[Hard Right]

"No wonder the Republican party is going down the tubes - you guys live in a fantasyland."

Going down the tubes? Don't think so. As far as fantasy land, I've seen the posts from your kind. You kids are clearly off your meds and detatched from reality. 2008 will be an ugly wake up call to you.

[jong]

Yeah, going down the tubes. But I guess you weren't paying attention to the last election. Bo doubt you saw it as a victory for the Republic party.

Don't believe me? How abut George Will and William Buckley:

George Will: Absolutely. They do not want to have, as they had in 2006, another election on Iraq. George, it took 30, 40 years for the Republican Party to get out from under Herbert Hoover. People would say, "Are you going to vote for Nixon in '60?" "No, I don't like Hoover." The Depression haunted the Republican Party. This could be a foreign policy equivalent of the Depression, forfeiting the Republican advantage they've had since the '68 convention of the Democratic Party and the nomination of [George] McGovern. The advantage Republicans have had on national security matters may be forfeited.

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William Buckley: The political problem of the Bush administration is grave, possibly beyond the point of rescue. The opinion polls are savagely decisive on the Iraq question. About 60 percent of Americans wish the war ended — wish at least a timetable for orderly withdrawal. What is going on in Congress is in the nature of accompaniment.

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The general makes it a point to steer away from the political implications of the struggle, but this cannot be done in the wider arena. There are grounds for wondering whether the Republican party will survive this dilemma.

http://washingtonmonthly.com/

[Fred Beloit]

There is something that will always keep the Republican Party alive, vital, an election threat to Democrats and a great attractor of the votes of Americans. That thing is.....dattadadattadaaaaaaa, The goofy Democrat Party.