How Many Children Do You Have?

Just curious. Because that illegal alien and terrorist

NAME: Dritan Duka.
AGE: 28; Born in the former Yugoslavia. Ethnic Albanian.
HOME: Cherry Hill, N.J.
IMMIGRATION STATUS: In United States illegally.

he has five. Let's hope none of them were being home schooled.

In contrast, Dritan Duka was heard stressing safety in April 2006:

"I just want to be safe, brother . . . cuz, you understand," he said. "I got five kids so I don't wanna go down. People catch me like they think I'm a terrorist."

But make no mistake, they were serious about the attack:

Suspect: 'I'm doing it in the name of Allah'

On sharing the map with the individual who infiltrated the cell: Then Tatar declared, "I'm gonna do it. Whether you are or not (FBI) I'm gonna do it. Know why? . . . It doesn't matter to me, whether I get locked up, arrested or get taken away, it doesn't matter. Or I die, doesn't matter. I'm doing it in the name of Allah."

Comments

[Fred Beloit]

Oh, hell, don't pay any attention to these guys. They didn't mean any harm. Let's see, who can we get to defend these poor unfortunates? ACLU could provide great service to our civil rights by making sure this is treated as a crime rather than a war crime. I wonder if they were marandized properly. Hope nobody tries to keep these guys awake too long. Everyone has a right to eight hours sound sleep, except maybe soldiers and police.

[nowinger]

How can this be a 'war crime' if the 5 guys were acting independently? I realize that wingers think that millions of muslims are all working together in a war against the West to establish the caliphate and force all Americans to convert, thus they are all enemy combatants, but out here in the real world if there isn't any link or funding from a terrorist group then you can't be committing a 'war crime' even under the broad definition of the 'war on terror'

Everyone has the right to a lawyer, from the worst terrorist to the lowest child rapist. Once you start creating special classes of people who are 'so bad' they don't have the same basic rights as everyone else you are on the road to hell.

[templar knight]

Fred, I can't believe you're so dense. Every terrorist has the right to come to the United States illegally, plot an attack, do their best to kill Americans, and when caught have the US taxpayer foot the bill for a gang of sorry ass attorneys, which will likely be in the hundreds of thousands(all that legal research that will have to be done, you know), and tie up the Court system so that people like you and me(American citizens) have no access to reasonbly swift justice. Don't you get it?

[micah]

Five?

Is that one with each wife? He must be young.

[nowinger]

What's the alternative? Let the government decide on its own, absent any judicial oversight or court proceedings who is and who isn't a 'war criminal?' Automatically assume that all illegal aliens are also terrorists, just the muslim ones?

Why are you people so afraid of due process? These guys were caught in New Jersey, so far no links to any terrorist organization have been presented, that makes them subject to US law not military law.

But, really, forget it, you can't see the forest for the trees, all you do is see 'muslim terrorists, hide, run, kill them, we can't give them any rights because they want to cut off our heads'

[Phoenix]

Due process? Piffle. I say it's time we incorporated some good old Christian values: An eye for an eye, etc.

Let's behead them on TV. It would save us a bunch of money.

[Cindi]

Brian Williams could host

[Fred Beloit]

Temp, you got me. I guess I was half asleep this mourning. nowinger makes an airtight case. The American rifleman on the battlefield has no right to shoot that man aiming at him with an AK47. He must get the man a lawyer before even considering firing. "Everyone has a right to a lawyer, from the worst terrorist to the lowest child rapist" per nowinger. Well, maybe not on the battlefield since that is sooooo different. But is it? Didn't this group, partly composed of illegals, plan to make Ft. Dix a battlefield, and in a dishonest way by not wearing uniforms? And, if they had begun to carry out their plan, Ft. Dix would have become a battlefield. Would our soldiers there, if they got hold of their weapons, could they have returned fire without a lawyer? So perplexing for me. So easy for nowinger. Get a lawyer. Protect our civil rights. The Government is bugging nowinger's phone because she is a Lefty. Save our country. Save the whales. Cool our burning inferno of a planet. The Muslims don't hate us; they are just trying to get to heaven. Why can't you see the light? Hillery for President. Bring the troops home. Where to, nowinger? Ft. Dix, where they'll be safe? See Phoenix, everything will come out right in the end.

[Fred Beloit]

Uh, morning. The voices in my head made me do it.

[Phoenix]

Speaking of whales....... Dare I say it? Someone is missing from the blog.

I don't have the words to describe how 'clean' I feel. I know that's an odd thing to say, but that person distressed me so badly a day didn't go by that I didn't think about quitting the blog. (Cindi and I have both been here almost two years, too.)

It's strange because he never used vulgar language. I do. I say cuss words and make vulgar sexual references, but in my mind he was so much more disgusting and pernicious that he made me sick. Even when we ganged up on him. I think I have to admit to an element of fear that there are actually sickos out there like that.

Anyway..... Just thank you!

[Kelvin]

No thank YOU! If you want to feel clean, I would suggest going to the outhouse.

[Cindi]

Speaking of outhouses. How the hell are you kelvin?

[BARRASSO]

Wow finally an incident that will shut up the moronic notion that we are "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here." That little piece of wingnut illogic has been floating as justification for stupid policy and tactics for years. All terrorists aren't connected physically, therefore you cannot prevent them attacking here by fighting them there, no matter what genuis george says.

[Kelvin]

I am fine cindi. Kindly regale us with more tales of your life in public service and your encounters with customers at walmart.

You should write a book.

[ET]

Right on BAREASSHOLE! Our policy is that we will find them and kill them...all of them. If you plot to kill, or actuallly point your weapon at an American, here or abroad, we will find you and kill you. The more we kill elsewhere, the fewer we kill here. Is that logic simple enough for you?

The result is the same. Dead terrorist. Get it?

If these NJ guys don't end up dead, that will be a crime. Of course, we'll do it the American way to satisfy nowang and calvin...we'll give 'em a fair trial and hang 'em in the morning.

[southdakotaboy]

We should now let the Serbs know that we will no longer take any action against them in Kosovo. There needs to be real consequences to these kind of actions. If muslim terrorists strike us we take something away from them. Negative rewards for negative actions. In this case since they didn't kill anyone we don't need to kill anyone. They want us out of their affairs lets get out and show them what can happen. How long do you think it would take the Serbs to cleanout Kosovo? Not very is my guess. I know it sounds brutal but it seems that that is all these people seem to understand. We need to spell it out for them on tv so they understand why we are doing what we are doing. Tell the average Albanian " hey some of your guys tried to kill us so we aren't going to protect you any longer have a nice day." Then leave.

[Kelvin]

Wow, ET is a regular tough guy! I bet he carries a gun too to make him feel like a 'man'. Thank you for your service!

[Cindi]

et wears a too to and carries a gun?

careful kelvin, you are starting to sound like bis.

I picked this up on Michelles post about the NJ terrorist plot. The John Doe Manifesto. Good stuff.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/007190.htm

[BARRASSO]

So SD boy we should probably take 168 white American christians out into a meadow and execute them because of what Tim Mcviegh did, that will reduce any further christian seperatist terrorism.

[Capitalist Infidel]

BARRASSO

McVeigh was an athiest.

[southdakotaboy]

Well Barrasso did you even read what I wrote or are you just pulling stuff out of your backside? Did I say we needed to start lining up Albanians or even muslims? No what I said was give them what they want and let them deal with what happens on their own.
And I'm not just talking about muslims either we need to stop giving away aid to every country in the world. There was a world wide poll out not to long ago that showed which countries hated us and which liked us. We need to distribute our aid according to that poll, the more you like us the more you get the less you like us well have a nice life.

[Dan Riehl]

My un-PC point, which, I thought obvious, is - 5 now legal US children-citizen, Muslims, w/Father in prison for terrorism (defending their religion), likely to be raised in near poverty, except for government aid - yadda, yadda. One family, no big deal. But how many for how long before we can look to France to see the outcome and start counting Friday Night "fun" by the number of burning cars is some communities.

[Capitalist Infidel]

southdakotaboy

Barrasso doesn't care what you said, she just wanted to take a swipe at Christians which of course failed miserably since McVeigh was not a Christian. It's what liberals do, they have a vicious hatred of religion...well....all religions but Islam.

[southdakotaboy]

Barrasso after rereading your post I feel that you are even more retarded then I first thought. How you made the connection that I said we should take people out and shoot them when I clearly stated "In this case since they didn't kill anyone we don't need to kill anyone." is beyond me. You are nothing but a little twit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMSic0V-Xww

[BARRASSO]

My point being that punishing people who had nothing to do with the acts of an individual, because of tangenital group relationship is a bad policy. I don't mind if we cut off all aid to countries that support our enemies, but I don't think that all of Albania should suffer because of some Albanian individuals actions.

[Capitalist Infidel]

BARRASSO

Well, next time you might want to use an accurate example instead of a lie you read on some far left wing kook site.

[southdakotaboy]

Barrasso my point is that right now most people in the world don't see anything negative in being anti-American. We still give money and food and protection to those who hate us. Most of these people don't see all the good things we do for them and don't get credit for. They don't realize how much worse this world would be if we did pullout and keep more to ourselves. I for one am sick of these people stabbing us in the back after we help them. These six guys didn't exist in a vaccume they had friends and family who should have stopped them, not some guy at Circut City.
Right now terrorist wannabes only think about how the can strike at the US and become heroes. We need to get them thinking about how their actions will affect the people they are claiming to be trying to help.
How much you wanna bet Barrasso that if these guys knew that if they attacked us we would let the Serbs wipe out thier fellow Albanians they might not have been so gung ho to attack us.

[nowingker]

This blog gets stupider by the day.

Now the thing we need to do is use collective punishment for all peoples of a given country/ethnic group if 6 individuals attack us.

Considering that residents of Guantanamo Bay include Germans, Brits, Morrocans, Saudies and who knows how many other nationalities that isn't going to leave us with many allies is it???????

[charles]

i think they should accidentally fall down the stairs on the way to questioning, and then be shot trying to escape

then we take all their relatives and return them to the third world shithole they came from

problem solved,,,,,,,,, next!

[charles]

"Guantanamo Bay include Germans, Brits, Morrocans, Saudies and who knows how many other nationalities that isn't going to leave us with many allies is it???????"

we should shoot all non uniformed combatants on the spot

any others that in the past would have been sent to gitmo should move into the house next door to nowinger

all the human rights organizations who want to "help" these folks should be forced to pay the upkeep

now everybody's happy

[southdakotaboy]

Well nowinger according to many on the left the rest of the world hates us because we intervene in other countries to much. They have all those big protest marches with signs saying USA go home and all that jazz. I find it really funny how as soon as we start talking about really leaving and pulling out people on the left start complaining about collective punishment. How are we punishing them nowinger by leaving them alone to do their own thing in this world? Thats what they want right? My idea was that we just need to hangout with those countries that like us. How can you argue with that nowinger?

[Hard Right]

So let me get this straight, we allowed a small group illegal aliens into this country by our lax immigration law enforcement. Because they later converted to radical islam and planned to murder Americans that means our fight in Iraq and Afghanistan is a complete waste? So by Bar-Asshole's standard, fighting them anywhere is a total waste. Someone get the Pentagon on the phone, we've found a new General for them!

Hey Bar-asshole, maybe if you'd stop sucking them off we could crack down on the wahabbist muslims here in the U.S. Instead you wage war on America. I hope that when an attack happens you are one the people maimed.

[seekeronos]

The Dukas = un-uniformed enemy combatants conducting a military (combat) operation against American assets.

Judgment: According to the Geneva Convention, they can be disposed of / exterminated without due process.

As for pulling out of Iraq, if we do that, there must be no exceptions:

We pull out of Iraq, Germany, Japan, the UK and everywhere else except for our territorial possessions. Japan has enough cash to rebuild its military again to contain China. Europe can deal with Islamists by themselves or play the part of being surrender monkeys.

Scale back the Army only for continental defense, especially along the Mexican border.

Increase funding to the Navy and USAF, and re-build our nuclear arsenal to Kruschev-era levels... ensuring that we have enough to destroy our enemies several times over.

Convert to nuclear power generation full-scale.

Tell the world that "they are on their own", and our enemies that the price of messing with the USA will result in a nuclear holocaust to the offending nation.

For terrorist/non-state actors, they will be punished by having a city randomly selected by a slapped Chimpanzee tossing a dart at an oversized map of the M.E. for annihilation (citizens of that city will have 30min. warning to get out of that town).

Yeah, man. Fortress America for teh win.

[southdakotaboy]

Hey seekeronos did you just use my trained chimp idea, alright!!

[supernintendo Chalmers]

...If you plot to kill, or actuallly point your weapon at an American, here or abroad, we will find you and kill you...(posted by ET)

'cept if ur osama bin laden. Our leader doesn't really spend that much time thinking about the man responsible for 3000+ american deaths. He's not concernated with him.

[charles]

well that's brand new and refreshing

have any other salient points to make?

i sit in anticipation of your astounding abilities to read the presidents mind

please do share more of those laser sharp thoughts with us

[supernintendo Chalmers]

Posted by: seekeronos | Wednesday, May 09, 2007 at 03:57 PM

no way this is real, i mean, i've read some pretty out there stuff on this blog, and it's entertaining, don't get me wrong , but this, really??

[supernintendo Chalmers]

Uh, I don't have to read his "mind"

he said it:

March 13, 2002

Bush:
So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you...

And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

the white house web site fer chrissakes. I'm surprised these revisionist crooks haven't changed the transcript, or called it "priveleged"

[charles]

"March 13, 2002"

well that's brand new and refreshing

Bush:I truly am not that concerned about him.

i'm not much concerned myself

i get the distinct impression the corpse formerly known as bin laden has been pushing up poppies long enough to be nothing but bones by now

have any other current and topical thoughts for us today?

[Phoenix]

"i get the distinct impression the corpse formerly known as bin laden has been pushing up poppies long enough to ..."

....long enough to have been snorted by a blod or a crip in LA.

:]

[Phoenix]

"i get the distinct impression the corpse formerly known as bin laden has been pushing up poppies long enough to ..."

....long enough to have been snorted by a blod or a crip in LA.

:]

[Phoenix]

oh. Maybe I snorted bin Laden. d'oh. :}

[supernintendo Chalmers]

Hey true believers, do you have any evidence to support your claim that bin laden is dead?? Don't you think if there was any evidence whatsoever dumbya and his dunces, so desperate for a win, would have it out all over the airwaves.

See, folks in the reality based world understand that there must be EVIDENCE supporting claims or future actions, unlike true believers who just nod along with whatever their lord bush and his minnions say.

Way to get your dig in on blods(sic) and crip(sic). I infer you're a racist from your comment, since it has nothing to do with anything. I know, it's a "joke", right? Do blods(sic) and Crip(sic) snort opium?

[Phoenix]

Oh my. A new asshole.

I infer that you're a blog or a crip. Snort.

hahaha...

[Phoenix]

dang...... That would be 'blod'.....

Freudian snort.....

"blog"? d'oh.

[supernintendo Chalmers]

typical wingnut/true believer response. How about it, mouthbreather? Do you have any evidence at all that bin laden is dead?

Don't assume I'm an asshole, and I will extend that courtesy to you.

[Hard Right]

Umm SC, Bloods and Crips come in all races. I don't expect a refugee from reality like you to know that though.

Maybe OBL is dead. Maybe he isn't. If he died, they'll never give us that info willingly.

[supernintendo Chalmers]

I would argue that someone who says that news of bin laden being dead would not be released to the public is a refugee from reality. Care to explain your assertion?

The bloods and cripps thing was an off the cuff remark. you are correct, bloods and crips are no longer race specific, but I was using hyperbole.

[charles]

"Do you have any evidence at all that bin laden is dead"

haven't heard or seen anything from dead binny in a long while, zawahiri has made videos and statements quite a number of times of late - wonder why bin laden hasn't done the same?

got any proof bin laden is alive?

if there was any evidence whatsoever bin laden and his goatfuckers, so desperate for a win, would have it out all over the airwaves.

right? because two can play your childish games

ps - i've already assumed your an asshole from your posts here

[charles]

*you're an asshole* heh