Reid Has No Honesty at All

This quote is taken from, of all places, Media Matters:

Fox News White House correspondent Wendell Goler: "The president admitted the short-term impact of the troop surge and going after Iraqi militias is likely to be an increase in U.S. casualties."

Now watch Harry Reid basically lie to CNN via this video at Hot Air, using that predicted short-term result to negate the statements from General Patraeus, the commander on the ground in Iraq.

This is shameful behavior. Reid does indeed have blood on his hands. And as Jeff at Protein Wisdom points out in follow up to a NY Post item, Reid is performing exactly as would a dummy of the Far Left. He's decided to allow the fringe of his party to pull his strings. Middle America will reject his party in 08 as a result.

Comments

[Kelvin]

Short-term? This miserable slow defeat has been going on for over 4 years. Face it, asshats - you lost. Badly.

[Zifnab]

Ha! You must be joking.
Boehner was promisng results in the next 60 to 90 days. McCain and the Fight'n Congresscritters were trying to pimp the "Everything is hunky-dory" in Iraq just two weeks ago. Bush's surge strategy has been proven, once again, to be an utter failure and now you're coming back and calling Reid a liar for saying "I told you so"?

Is there any failure you can't convince yourself is a success? Of course, Dan is the type of guy that cheers the "positive spin" when the Iraqi Parliament gets bombed: http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/04/iraq_green_zone.html
So when you're this delusional, I guess everything has a silver lining.

[nova]

On another subject. I would like the hear the other side of the story on the Pat Tillman friendly fire death. Why would the Army want to cover that up? To protect the Army and the Tillman family? If so why did they think that the truth would not eventually come out? I look forward to hearing both sides of this story.

[Zifnab]

"We believe this narrative was intended to deceive the family but more importantly the American public," Kevin Tillman told a House Government Reform and Oversight Committee hearing. "Pat's death was clearly the result of fratricide," he said, contending that the military's misstatements amounted to "fraud."—"Revealing that Pat's death was a fratricide would have been yet another political disaster in a month of political disasters … so the truth needed to be suppressed,"

[mike]

fringe?????????????? he's speaking for the majority of americans who DON'T support the war! Pelosi's approval rating is 53% and denmented mr bush's is 33%. looks like americans like what the dems are doing. get over it, we lost this war a long time ago. now we're the laughing stock of the world!

[nowinger]

There is no other side.

Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire. His unit knew this immediately. There is no excuse for why Tillman's family was misled and lied to for five weeks. The family says the army lied to them, that's good enough for me.

The army exploited his death at the hands of 'the enemy' to win PR points for the war and to deflect attention from the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal. A high profile friendly fire incident was the LAST thing they needed. I'm sure there are people out there who still think Pat Tilman was killed by 'the enemy.

Tick, tick, tick goes the clock. How long until Tillman's brother, mother and father who slammed the army unmercifully today will be labeled traitors and liberals.

[okie]

You libs are an angry bunch...except when it comes to asserting the US "lost the war". Then it's like springtime and the birds are singing.

What
Is
Wrong
With
You
People?

My guess: Traitors!

[Kelvin]

The biggest redneck hero since dale earnhardt gets shot in the back by his own troops. You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!

[Terry Gain]

Face it, asshats - you lost. Badly. Kelvin
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The you in "you lost" is the United States, Asshole. So tell me, Asshole, why would anyone accept the opinion of someone cheering against the United States? What do you know? You haven't got a clue of the consequences of losing, which is why you don't understand why the United States cannot and will not lose this war. Asshole.

[ec1009]

It's not anger okie, it's frustration. How many times do we sane people have to explain to you useless idiots that 1 + 1 does not = three and that the moon is not made of green cheese before it gets through your thick skulls?

We endure your pathetic cries of treason with the hope of reducing the amount of stupid in the world just a little bit but in your case I suspect it is hopeless. At least we can rest easy secure in the knowledge that we are better Americans than you.

[Kelvin]

No, loser - it's YOU. Wait, aren't you the flat-earth flag-waver who is always proclaiming victory on here? What a loser. Terry Gain, loser.

[imaginewhirledpeas]

Ease up Terry, they can't help themselves, bemoaning the deaths of "poor Iraqis" while cheering the deaths of their own countrymen. Tis really a very sad lot if you think about it. This is one of my many reasons for being against this thing from the beginning: The average American doesn't deserve to be protected from ill perceived or real threats. I'm just glad that some of these haters are young enough that they will get to live in the world they think they want.

[Althor]

Quote: The biggest redneck hero since dale earnhardt gets shot in the back by his own troops. You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!

Posted by: Kelvin | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 03:48 PM

You commie SOB! The "Biggest Redneck Hero since Dale Earnhardt" had a life, a future, the women and the wealth you could not in your wildest dreams ever achieve, you loser!

He died for his country and sacrificed it all for what he believed in, even if accidentally! While you colluded here back home in your viper pit and your crack dens with the Democrats, the lefties, and all the vermin that despise and hate our country, who hate life, who hate happiness, and would have us all eating shit like in Castro's Cuba - undoubtedly one of your heroes! And you gloat over it??? May God Damn you, you SOB!

Lovingly,

Althor

[ec1009]

Terry Gain, an analogy for you, and I'll type real slow so even you may understand.

Recognizing that a terminally ill loved one is about to die is not the same thing as cheering for their death just as wishful thinking is not a wise foreign policy.

[warrenb]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

If Reid "indeed" has some blood on his hands, then Bush and Cheney are swimming in an Olympic sized swimming pool full of it.

[nowinger]

Liberals didn't kill Pat Tillman. Liberals didn't lie about his death to the public and his family. Liberald didn't attend his FUNERAL and tell lies about how he died standing over his coffin.

The wingers have decided to go down with the ship. They have always been somewhat divorced from reality, they're faith based ya know, but the Bush administration has pushed them over the edge. Every time they believed him and went out and defended his inane prattle, they got kicked in the face by a different reality. They've decided now to abandon reality and, like their masters in the White House, believe that reality can be changed by public relations, they believe if they say something enough times, abracadabra, it will come true eventually.

They're off the reality train and I don't believe many of them can ever get back on. They'll go to their graves believing that we 'would' have won in Iraq if not for the traitorous liberals and their obsession with reality.

[ec1009]

Imaginewhirledpeas?
Why would someone name himself after what he has shriveled up between his legs?

[jong]

If this war ends up being lost, it's Bush and his administration that bears the blame. They haven't had a clue of what to do since the day Saddam's statue toppled. They're the ones who've mismanaged and mislead us to where we are today - not the Dems or the Liberals - it's Bush and his acolytes that have made ALL the decisions. Until this year, they controlled ALL the levers of power. He got everything he wanted, no questions asked. All together now - Worst President Ever||||

[imaginewhirledpeas]

ec1009: I'm sorry that you cannot see the irony of the name. Glad I'm not homophobic though or your concern for my testicles would be cause for concern.

[nowinger]

Exactly. Bush had four years to get it together in Iraq and he accomplished zilch. Baghdad secure? Nope. Functioning government? Nope. [Note to wingers when cabinent ministers control death squads and various gov. entitites are beholden to individuals and tribes that makes a government disfunctional]. Basic services restored? Nope. Insurgency stopped? Nope. Training Iraqis? Nope.

The reason that Iraq has failed so spectacularly is exactly the same reason why the wingers still maintain we're on the verge of winning: an inability to admit to mistakes. If Bush had admitted the initial strategy was flawed and made adjustments in 03, 04, 05 or 06....Instead, he refuses to admit reality until a Dem Congress gets elected and he knows his free ride is over.

[Althor]

Quote: "Terry Gain, an analogy for you, and I'll type real slow so even you may understand.

Recognizing that a terminally ill loved one is about to die is not the same thing as cheering for their death just as wishful thinking is not a wise foreign policy."

Posted by: ec1009 | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 04:16 PM

"Terminally ill" when you and your pacifist, hate-America crowd fed the "loved one" the poison from the very onset of the war - pessimistic and whining about missing "Weapons Cahes" even while the Iraqis were still celebrating the fall of Saddam in the streets - trying to find fault with, and condemn the war?

Our military is the best trained and equipped in the world!
No barefoot asshole in a rice-paddie with an AK-47, nor any Jihaidst with a soiled diaper wound around his head, has ever been a match for our soldiers! Our enemy, like a cancer lies within: yellow-bellied traitors like you in our midst, and until we perform "surgery" and remover you, you and your accursed "Viet-Cong flag wielding" generation of malcontents, and self-gratifiying, hedonist, America-hating, traitors, and their scions, will continue to poison America and ensure our defeat!

I never thought that I would live to see the day when I would utter such words! I am a staunch supporter of our Republic, our Constitution, and a firm believer in our representative democratic government with its checks and balances.

But with people like you, and the on-going treachery in Washington, with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat traitors trying to put in place a "Shadow Government," and trying to set up their own "Foreign Policy" and negotiate our surrender with our enemies in defiance of the State Department's Official Foreign Policy, the policies of the President and his Administration, in blatant betrayal of our troops dying in the battlefield and of our country; and "Al-Qaeda" Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (pun intended), emboldening our enemies by telling them that "the war is lost" while working feverishly to achieve that defeat at any cost - even that of undermining our troops and deny them the very bullets to fight with for their survival - to thus achieve our total and humiliating defeat in Iraq at the expense of our brave young men and women in the battlefield; perhaps it is time for our military, remembering their oath to defend us against all enemies foreign and "DOMESTIC", to take a stand, and for the sake of our own survival to step in, round-up all these traitorous Democratic Congressmen and Senators, and the likes of you, line them up before a Military Tribunal, and judge them for their treason!!!

May such never happen, but there are not many other choices left other than complete capitulation, defeat, and the utter destruction of America by you and your delusional leftist ilk - with the help of your fellows-in-arms, the Jihadists!

Althor

[Legalize]

Do Riehl and Althor remind anyone of slightly more insane and deluded versions of Uncle Junior from this past Sunday's "Sopranos"?

[ec1009]

imaginewhirledpeas,
I did see the irony of the name when first I saw it on a bumper sticker 25 years ago.

I don't care about your testicles. Just repeating what your wife told me last night.

[nowinger]

If I was to make a bet, my bet would be the military can't wait for Bush and the neocons to vacate the White House. If you think the military leaders approve of the mess that's been made of the army, the reserve and the good name of the American military, you're nuts. But, you ARE nuts, no point in arguing with a nut. I can guarantee you if the military had a choice between taking Rummy or Nancy away in handcuffs, it would be Mr. Rumsfeld who would be getting a bird eye view of Gitmo.

[imaginewhirledpeas]

ec1009; I didn't realize there is a time limit on irony, it's a shame. Guess I'll change it to make you happy. I am now becoming concerned by your obsession with my testicles though. A night with my wife and all you can think to discuss is my testicles? Look, dont be ashamed, it's ok if you like boys better than girls. Really, get on out of the closet.

[charles]

you are not liberals, you are leftist moonbats

and you can deny it all you want but the war in iraq was approved by a clear bipartisan majority - that's a fact

by any historical metric we are not losing or even near it, i'm sorry you don't have the patience or even the historical knowledge to know how long it takes to successfully fight a counterinsurgency

even with all the encouragement you provide the islamic fanatics, the more innocent muslims they murder - the worse things are going to get for them

and for all your dubious claims of clairvoyance i don't think 08 is going to turn out as you expect

i believe the results are going to be quite gratifyingly not in your favor

[imaginewhirledpeas]

wingless: I'd take you up on that bet, but it'd be wrong since I actually know military folks and taking candy from babies is just mean.

[ec1009]

Legalize,

I am new here. Is althor off his meds or is he always like that? That second to last sentence was something wasn't it - seventeen commas, thirteen semi-colons and ending with three exclamation points!!!! (HA, beat you althor)

What was supposed to be the pun about Harry Reid? I didn't get it.

[Zifnab]

"If I was to make a bet, my bet would be the military can't wait for Bush and the neocons to vacate the White House."

After all the generals Bush has seen fit to fire because they disagreed with the neo-con "Candy, Flowers, and Ponies for everyone!" vision of the Iraq War, I imagine the military is begging for the days of President Bill "Fuck Your Intern Not Your Country" Clinton. With guys like Doug Feith acting as the military intelligence - a man Centcom Commander Tommy Franks is quoted as praising with “I have to deal with the fucking stupidest guy on the face of the earth almost every day.” - I can see how the top brass might be a little eager to see the door hitting Bush on the way out.

Of course, who knows. Maybe Peter Pace really does love sniffing Turd Blossom every morning for his briefings. Maybe the rank and file getting another six month extension in the shit-hole desert will come back home and rain candy and flowers on their Republican Congressmen. Maybe a leprachaun will in the '08 bid for President, heralding the second or third coming of Hesus my lawn-care specialist and savior of the Christian world. I mean, anything is possible.

[nowinger]

I will say for the last time, if Gulliani gets the nomination he will win. If you think Gilliani is going to continue on Bush's disastrous course, or that once in office he's going to pay attention to the party's holy rollers and neocons, you are dead wrong. Rudy lives in the real world, not the fairy land where Bush and the wingers reside.

[Althor]

Quote: "I can guarantee you if the military had a choice between taking Rummy or Nancy away in handcuffs, it would be Mr. Rumsfeld who would be getting a bird eye view of Gitmo."

Posted by: nowinger | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 04:40 PM

Let's just wait until they all get back home in the humiliation and defeat you are imposing upon them in spite of all the blood shed and the sacrifices, of calling them "Baby Killers" and "Mass Murderers," of spitting on them as they return home at airports - much as your ilk did with returning Vitnam vets - and see whom they may eventually take away!

Unlike the conscripted Vietnam vets, these men and women are volunteers who believe in their service...and also in their oath: "...against enemies foreign and domestic..." They have what you lack: "cojones". They will not come back home for you to turn your faces away from them in disgust, pretend they don't exist, and leave them to rot in the gutters of our cities as you did with Vietnam vets! Remember the "DOMESTIC" part of that oath! These returning soldiers will hold you to acount, you traitors!

Althor

[ec1009]

I have a metric for you Charles, name the last occupying foreign power that has successfully been able to defeat an insurgency?

[imaginewhirledpeas]

Althor, you are going to burst an artery.

[ET]

There is no doubt that the Tillman family got caught in a PR shitstorm. Remember, it was a real coup for the WOT when this highly paid professional athlete gave up his career to serve his country. Of course, back then, liberals called him a stupid redneck. Now he is their poster boy. Liberals suck.

The military is a huge bureaucracy and they fuck up all the time. Soldiers have bitched and moaned about the treatment they receive since the revolutionalry war. We all know that. To hear the gloating from the left on this site, one would conclude that GW pulled the trigger on Pat Tillman. Typical small mindedness of the leftist coward. Just like that Sheehan bitch, the pink anti-war crowd will pimp the Tillman family by using the death of their loved one to slam Bush. Shameless weasels.

God bless Pat Tillman for his selfless sacrefice. God bless his family as they endure their suffering that was made worse by our military bureaucracy. They all deserve better.

[nowinger]

Don't you people ever get tired of rewriting history and talking nonsense? That's a rhetorical question. It hasn't been the Democrats who have turned their back on the soldiers. It was Bush who sent them to Iraq without proper training, without proper equipment and without any arabic translators. It was Bush that presided over the decay of the VA and its once proud hospitals. The military has turned on Bush, if you ever read any military newspapers or military blogs you would know that. Certainly, there are many wingers in the military who want to kill Iraqis and Democrats, but they're a rapidly dwindling minority. The soldiers know they've been lied to. The reservists know they've been lied to.

[charles]

us military ec1009

[charles]

nowinger you're an idiot

[imaginewhirledpeas]

wingless, I'm very curious about your age. It's obvious you've no concept of history beyond what you learn on CNN

[nowinger]

You guys never learn, you still rely on personal attacks to carry the day. Calling Associated Press "al AP" hasn't gotten you very far has it? Or mocking Nancy Pelosi? Or calling anyone who disagrees with you a traitor. Or screaming like little girls when you don't get your way.

[nowinger]

Oh yeah, and the Democrat Party, the Dhimmicrats and a vote for the Democrats is a vote for the terrorists and all the rest of it. It's working, really. You're going to win big in 08, take back control of Congress and establish the permanent winger majority, invade Iran and stamp out premarital sex. For sure!!! Rage on loonies.

[ec1009]

"us military ec1009"

Posted by: charles | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 05:05 PM

Be more specific Chuckles.

[imaginewhirledpeas]

Come on wingless, give up your age. 16? 19? Come on it's not like I'm asking your phone number.

[charles]

nowinger - even tho i'm not guilty of any of the things in your comment, it is not worth my time refuting the silliness you have posted, you won't even attempt to understand a different worldview than your own, much less make an attempt at civil informed discourse

you are obviously too young and inexperienced to understand what you are saying

[ET]

nowinger...Puleese stop with the BS talking points. The troops had no training? What were they doing stateside be fore their deployment? All troops DO is train. That is just a BS statement.

Bush presided over the decline of the "once proud" VA? WTF? did you see 'deer hunter'? 'coming home'? liberal hollywood has accurately portrayed the VA system as decrepit and dirty since the 60's at least. You mold your statements to fit you predjudices.

The military has turned on Bush? that's a blanket statement, completely unsubstantiated. For every military quote you can produce criticizing Bush, I can produce others slamming your democratic cowards.

You are no more than a mouthpiece and a partisan tool. You add nothing to the debate. Get a job that keeps you away from the keyboard.

[charles]

ec1009 no, if you really are interested research it, it's all out there and easy to find, it's history

[Althor]

Quote: "Althor, you are going to burst an artery."

Posted by: imaginewhirledpeas | Tuesday, April 24, 2007 at 04:58 PM

I rather burst an artery with Honor, and get shot in the back by acccidental "Friendly Fire" while defending my country, than enjoy the decadent, hedonisitc, "I care about nothing but my comfort" cyncism of such as Bill Maher and his ilk - an apt spokesman for your twisted values.

Have you ever experienced your heart pounding as the bullets fly all around you in the heat of battle, not knowing if the next one will blow your brains away? That can also burst an artery...but how would you know? You, or your father, were probably lighting a joint, like Clinton and Reid, instead of fighting for your country, while others died in your place! Too bad, they are dead, while Clinton got to be President and made a mockery of the Office, and Harry "Al-Qaeda" Reid becomes Senate Majority Leader to become the best ally our enemies could have ever hoped for, ensuring our defeat! Isn't that just fair and dandy???

Althor

[Terry Gain]

name the last occupying foreign power that has successfully been able to defeat an insurgency?

Posted by: ec1009
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Occupying power? Where the hell have you been for the last 3 years? This insurgency is opposed by the duly and fairly elected government of Iraq who are backed by the most lethal and moral military forces in history. This insurgency has no popular support and holds no territory. The only way this war can be lost to this insurgency is if America is defeated from within.

[imaginewhirledpeas]

ec1009: Are you thinking about that silliness in the '80s when the US govt stomped that insurgency in the south west? Or the in China? Maybe finally stopping those die hard nazis almost two years after that war ended?

[Legalize]

As near as I can tell, ec1009, that is Althor's standing operating procedure. It's fun wathing them in full melt-down mode; it's been happening alot lately. :)

[imaginewhirledpeas]

Here's your answer ALthor: "Have you ever experienced your heart pounding as the bullets fly all around you in the heat of battle,
YES, I HAVE
not knowing if the next one will blow your brains away? That can also burst an artery...but how would you know? I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE WHICH QUALIFIES ME TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT MOREN PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN
You, or your father, were probably lighting a joint
ACTUALLY, THE KOREANS TRIED THEIR BEST TO KILL MY DAD AND HE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN A JOINT IF HE SAW IT"

Don't be so presumptious, makes you look stupid.