Media Matters (For Morons): Don't Call Those Terrorists Names!

Feeling their oats after taking down a second rate anti-war shock jock, Media Matters launches a very lame attack on Fox's John Gibson:

Fox's Gibson: U.S. invasion "unmasked" Iraqis as "knuckle-dragging savages from the 10th century"

CALLER 2: -- when you say that we're not responsible for the chaos in Iraq. I mean, who was it that disbanded their security forces and left that country in an unstable state?

GIBSON: Look, good point. The Bremer period is going to take the fall on the Iraq story -- dismantling the Baathist organization, not letting anybody who was a Baathist run the electric system or the sewage system or the garbage pickup or any of that stuff. They're going to take the hit on it. And the Bremer period where they disbanded the army, that's going to take the hit on it -- I guarantee you.

But, and that's a mistake, I agree that was a mistake, but who is doing this killing? Give me a break. These are Iraqis killing each other. So what did we do? If you're saying it's our fault that we unmasked them as knuckle-dragging savages from the 10th century -- fine! I'll take credit. But thanks -- but thanks for the observation, [Caller].

So, a subset of the Iraqi population is behaving like knuckle dragging savages etc ... I like to call them terrorists ... and for saying so, Media Matters wants to portray it as if Gibson was maligning the entire population of Iraq. Way to mis-characterize someone's beliefs, Libs. On second thought, maybe it is actually terrorists who kill women and children that you hate to see being called names.

If you're lucky, the foreign press will pick up your bogus headline and alienate some of our allies even more. The irresponsible party here is Media Matters. Looks like there's a need for a Media Matters Where the truth doesn't matter blog.

Comments

[y7]

You missed it! Look at the sentence. He says "if you are saying this stupid thing is our fault, then blame it on me! I'll take the hit on it!"

It is absurd that Gibson could be blamed so he is emphasizing an absurdity with another absurdity.

[DarkFaculties]

Sounds like a clearly categorical reference to me. Gibson could have said "these are Iraqi [terrorists/insurgents/Baathists/al-Qaeda] killing each other," as you did, but he didn't—he just said "Iraqis," with no further specification. Referring to Slavs in the Balkans during the 90s or Africans in Somalia today in such a manner would be rightfully derided as racist, as should this little slip.

[ET]

Manipulation of information to advance a leftist agenda, clearly. Thanks, Dan. Bank this one for later reference, fellow cons. We'll use it as ammo shortly. I expect an incoming barrage from ziffy, kelvin, nowings and BallsinStomach.

Let the games begin.

[Vetter]

Well, ZifKnob is the only overt racist that regularly comments here, so I suppose we should wait for his guidance. Lord knows the mouth-breathing lefty morons that comment here so oft need his guidance, so we shall wait. Knobby, share with us your race based wisdom!

[Hard Right]

"...who was it that disbanded their security forces..."

The security forces, that's who dumbass. They said screw it and went home. We didn't have to "disband" them because they did it on their own.

As for not puting Baathists in charge, it's called common sense, something the left has none of. Oh yes I know the left will point to WWII germany, the difference is we totally and utterly crushed them and 99.9% of them knew it and gave up. As we've seen there are significant numbers of baathists who are still fighting us. No to mention in WWII we didn't have other countries supplying the holdouts (and foreign terrorists) with training, weapons, and money. BTW, the Germans we put in charge were those we felt we could trust and it turns out we were right about them.

[Kilo]

"""The security forces, that's who dumbass. They said screw it and went home. We didn't have to "disband" them because they did it on their own."""
Posted by: Hard Right | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 01:52 AM

Could you point to any source (I'll even take children's blogs) which suggests this was the case?
That Iraqi security forces:
1. disbanded themselves,
2. coincidently did this on the same day that the CPA issued an apparently unwarranted order for them to be disbanded, and
3. after disbanding themselves came out to protest the decision that they made themselves.

I take it you'll be one of the small minority of right-wingers who complains about their not being enough lies in the news about the situation in Iraq.

[seekeronos]

I'll agree with a few of the "Bush failed" critics here, but only as far as to tell you what we have failed to do:

(1) Utterly crush any shred of resistance in Iraq, by Baathists or Al-Q; loosen the ROE to allow for an "instant death" policy of returning fire on insurgents.

(2) Level every masjid, every mosque, and every other filthy toilet hole ostensibly dressed up as a meeting place for Muslims in Iraq which allowed terrorists and insurgents to operate from within their precincts; and shut down or heavily monitor activities in any mosques left to operate.

(3) Directly sieze and set up a 300m instant death zone around the usable oil infrastructure and resume fuel extraction operations at a sharp discount to American fuel companies - with the tacit understanding that the savings be passed down to the consumer in the USA, and some of the profit going to the financing of an appropiate occuaption authority ala the SCAP in post-war Japan... War Spoils, ya'know.

(4) Fund about 10,000 Southern Baptist/Independent Baptist Fundamental Christian missionaries to preach the gospel and win as many Iraqis to Christ as possible, and build as many Bible-believing churches as possible (the bulk of the funding should be for those missionary groups to help rebuild the infrastructure as well).

(5) Disallow the ordination of any new Muslim Clerics.

I think we had a golden chance to suppress Islam in Iraq, and we have blown it. It isn't too late yet, if our leaders would grow a backbone and stop kowtowing to their Saudi masters.

[Buzzy]

seeker, you forgot Bush's failure to secure Iraq's borders with Syria and Iran (he's an open border kind of guy it seems).

[Easter Lemming]

I expected the Riehl Meister to approve of this utterly racist and stupid remark. Go on and tell us what you really think.

[Hard Right]

Oh I don't know Kilo...FACTS....HISTORY to anyone paying attention. You know, kryptonite to you retards.

[Phoenix]

Easter Lemming. hmmmm.... That mean you only jump off the cliff when Jesus tells you to?

Seek - Thumbs up. (Sad to say.) Just think if they nailed Sadr al Fat in the beginning. I know that's only one small thing, but small things sometimes change the big picture in the long run.

I can't believe I'm doing hindsight stuff..... I hate that liberal MO.

[Kilo]

""seeker, you forgot Bush's failure to secure Iraq's borders with Syria and Iran (he's an open border kind of guy it seems).""
Posted by: Buzzy | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 09:24 AM

I don't think he forgot it. Seeker proposed blowing up every mosque in Iraq. What do you think could cross into Iraq over the border that would matter after this was created inside Iraq.

I could see a need for efforts to keep the Kuwaiti border open to keep the 24/7 supply of US coffins coming into Iraq flowing, but apart from that, no.

[Kilo]

""Oh I don't know Kilo...FACTS....HISTORY to anyone paying attention. You know, kryptonite to you retards.""
Posted by: Hard Right | Thursday, April 26, 2007 at 11:09 AM

I'll take that as a 'no'. You cannot find a single account, no matter how dubiously sourced, to support your fictional version of HISTORY.
I hope you are teaching your kids this alternate history. Remember, there is nowhere else they can learn it. You wouldn't let them be tought lies now would you ?