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- his second girlfriend was Melody.

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- Joran met Melody together with her friend Abi in a hotel during Easter break.Koen, Sander, Jaime, Freddy and myself had rented a room there. A lot of locals do this during this vacation. Then you can party without interruption from your parents. Play a lot of loud music, booze up, chill and go out and relax. Nobody would bother looking at how late you got in.

- in the lobby they met Melody and Abi, Abi had been at the same school Joran had gone to. For some reason Joran walked up to her and said hi. When he saw Melody for the first time he knew it was good. She was perfect, not that she was super pretty, but there was something about her. It was love at first sight. Joran wanted to talk to her because of the way she talked and the way she moved. Melody smiled sweetly at me and he was very interested in her. Koen and David also liked her and we were talking amongst ourselves as to who would get her.

- Joran was sitting next to Melody on the couch and when he had gotten up and returned he saw David and Koen sitting on his place with Melody. Joran thought "whatever" and moved off. He said to Sander that he was not going to argue about a girl and said they should settle it amongst them, that he found the whole thing retarded and that he was out of there.

- David later asked if he could help him with Melody. Say a few nice things about him. Joran did this even though he had the hots for Melody himself. But in the end Koen and David were left standing as I got with her.

- One chat on MSN he can still clearly remember. Joran had asked her who she liked best, David or Koen, because she couldn't be with both. Melody answered that she did not like either, she liked him and from then on it was "on".

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- Joran was of the opinion one should never fight with friends about girls, you just can't do that. It was Melody's birthday and he was the only one with an invite, he went and some other time they went to the movies together and hooked up with each other while David and Koen were oblivious to that fact. But as Joran did not like the secrecy he owned up, David handled it well, Koen got a bit pissed off at Joran.

- what made Melody special was her smile and her aura. She was easy to talk to and she is also very sweet and would do anything for her friends. She has an outgoing personality and he had her own opinions (something Joran says he likes in a girl).

- she was also the only one he could not lie to. He did not know how that was possible. Joran tried to lie but she would see through him in a second and then he would own up. Joran would lie to her when he would go out with the gang and if one of her girlfriends had seen Joran kissing another girl then he would first deny it to her but she could see right through him.

- during that time Joran also met Karen. Koen and he went to watch the baseball world series at this girls house, they made a bet and Karen won that bet and wanted to go with Joran to the movies.

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- nothing happened during the movie. Karen knew he was going steady. He also knew that but it did not stop him kissing her at the end of the movie. The text messaged for a long time, they emailed for a long time and then she started writing him love-letters. She fell in love with him, he did not fall in love with her but they did have sex together and decided to not tell Melody about this. In this manner Joran could do them both.

- during a trip with a party bus (decorated bus with drinks and loud music that drives around the island) the whole mess came to a head. Both Melody and Karen were on the bus and when Joran saw David and Karen heavily kissing he confronted his friend and after some words had fallen it ended up in a fight. Joran thought David had done it to get back at him for stealing Melody from David and that Karen did it to make Joran jealous. Melody had been told by Karen that she and Joran were getting it on but Melody did not believe it. Most of Joran's friends however knew about his affair with Karen.

- In hindsight Joran says he should have let things go before it got into a fight, that he should have shut the hell up and he would have been free of Karen.

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- Melody did not understand the fight, Karen cried and walked over to me after the fight and not to David, that was the worst of it all.

- Karen demanded that Joran would dump Melody but Joran was in love, he did not want to. Karen threatened she would take action otherwise.

- then Karen flipped. She and Melody went to the same school. Karen got into Melody's face and confronted her. When Joran picked Melody up from school that day and she told him that Karen had said they had been sleeping together.

- Joran took Melody to see Karen and acted all innocent and said "why the shit would you say something like that" to Karen. Karen and I swore not to tell and she broke that promise. Joran kept denying denying denying.

- Melody believed Karen however, as Joran said, Melody knew when he was lying always.

- they stayed boyfriend and girlfriend for some time more but the writing was on the wall and when Joran was on vacation in the Netherlands she dumped him on the phone. She was crying on the phone, said that she loved him but that she felt she could not stay with him anymore. I had betrayed her trust before by kissing a girl and this was the straw that broke the camels back. The trust was gone and he was to blame.

- he felt terrible about this, wanted to go back to Aruba immediately to patch things up but Joran knew she was right, it was beyond fixing. He was made enough to hit himself in the head because he did not feel anything for the other girls.

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Joran was angry at Karen even though he was to blame too. He wanted nothing to do with her anymore and he made that clear to her. But somehow they still kept meeting each other. She would come to his door with "gifts" and still wanted to be with him, well, what is a boy to do then if that is the situation.

- Soon after splitting with Melody I got a new girlfriend and dumped Karen proper, she then went on to be David's girlfriend

- David remained a good friend and later we laughed loudly at what had happened

- After that Joran didn't want serious girlfriends anymore, he justed wanted to have fun. He also did not want to hurt anyone any more.

- when Joran went to school in the Netherlands he had hoped that Melody would also come and live in the Netherlands but she has another relationship now so they are just good friends

Melody granadillo date of birth : 21 october 1986

Natalee Holloway dat of birth : 21 october 1986

MELODY RAGENIN = best friend of natalee holloway

COINCIDENCE????

Joran's words : Melody Granadillo is the only girl he could never lie to.
And she met up with him a few times after the incident, inspite of her having another boyfriend. would you believe her if she said she hadn't even asked him about that night? ... thought so...

i love big arooobun cocks!

AYM A GODAMM MURDEROUS FUCK WAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no comments on new info on natalee's cardiac arrest from cocaine overdose??? one blog says they are searching the north end of island; o'reilly and geraldo state she was dumped in the ocean by joran and kalpoes (last nite on o'reilly factor)......thought this place would be hopping today!!!!

I wonder when they'll start the water search?

Are they waiting for the KLPD to come back?

Will there be a DZNH II?

DAN HOW CAN I GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU???

I CAN HELP

AND I THOUGHT YOU COULD HELP ME DO THAT

E-MAIL ME DAN PLEASE

Interesting that there is a who whole post and links to Joran's book here but no mention of Beth's.

Make sure you read Beth's new book, Loving Natalee.
It is compelling and well-written. It is a book about hope and faith but also
reveals new details about the investigation.

On page 194, Beth discusses the cover-up.

I met Beth at one of her book signings. She is a lovely and gracious person who
just wants truth and justice for her beloved daughter Natalee.

I'm a middle aged man from Chicago, IL, USA. I never knew Natalee or her family, although I've traded some emails with friends of the family during the last 2 years. This case hits home because I have a daughter and a niece of the same age who could easily have been in Natalee's situation on their senior trips. Thankfully their friends are tight and trusted no one on their trip, looking out for each other the whole time.

Here's my take on Natalee:

1) No way are the 3 punks innocent. They did or caused something to happen and left Natalee in peril, if not actually causing her death outright and disposing of her. The ocean is an obvious choice for islanders who use boats like we use cars.

2) If anyone thinks the 3 are innocent, then that automatically means that Aruba has another kidnapper or murderer (or group of kidnappers) on it's "low crime" island, possibly waiting to grab another tourist victim. No runaway occurred here people, Natalee would have gone home to runaway, which was not needed as she was going away to school anyway.

3) I don't know why Natalee's friends allowed her to leave with the 3 punks, especially those who saw her at the bus stop. They should have pulled her from the car or pounded the 3 into the sand. They all knew it was wrong, but their inaction will weigh on their hearts until they die. Sometimes you are "your brothers keeper", it's just that you have to recoginize when those times come along.

4) The best story the 3 can tell is that Natalee was left on the beach. Which one went back or who else came along to take Natalee? if this did not happen then she must of died while in their company, otherwise where is she? Drug OD? - possible because they supplied the drugs. Rape and Murder? - Possible because 2 of the 3 seem fairly violent which is documented by island Police and the other students in Natalees group. If she refused them, what could they be capable of?

5) Quite possible that they provided Natalee with drugs and drinks and proceeded with a rape. Their plan to leave her on the beach fell through when she died with their DNA all over her. Hence the need to "panic" and get rid of the body, with or without the help of additional friends and family. The death was not intentional, but they would look guilty due to the drugs, DNA and their reputation on the island. (access to drugs, other incidents with girls, other violent actions)

Sorry for the rant, but I think about Natalee each day. She is etched in my memory forever. I pray for Natalee and her family.

My wife just bought "Loving Natalee" and I'll end up reading it as well even though I think it will just be a painful reminder of the lies and misdirections the family had to endure at the hands of morons on that island. i think the 3 lied and need to be dealt with until a decent story emerges from their lips.

bill

Good grief ...

Urine van der Slime nor his evil Father is going to live long enough to profit from a book with lies filled about Natalee. All the rapist killers and their accomplises are Dutch Jews except the savage Kalpoes. If the Muslims do not get them first for slandering their great prophet Mohammod then Americans are read to go after them. There is no shortage of volunteers and justice is going to be served. Sometimes one must fight evil with evil. It will be true professionals who are ex elite soldiers who will be visiting Holland and Aruba. Let us see how brave the JVDS is when he has to fight with a real man rather than a 110 pound girl. Semper Fi

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