Any Comment From The Left?

As the Left is too busy comparing Christianity to Muslim extemism, I wouldn't wait for much to be said by them about this. Looks like any new syndication deal for Rosie is off when it comes to Nigeria. They even destroyed the building in which the marriages took place.

A Nigerian lesbian who "married" four women last weekend in Kano State has gone into hiding from the Islamic police, with her partners.

Under Sharia law, adopted in the state seven years ago, homosexuality and same-sex marriages are outlawed and considered very serious offences.

The theatre where the elaborate wedding celebration was held on Sunday has been demolished by Kano city's authorities.

Lesbianism is also illegal under Nigeria's national penal code.

Nigeria's parliament is considering tightening its laws on homosexuality.

Comments

[Hank]

You're grasping a straws linking Liberals and Rosie O'Donnell to this tragic story.

By the way, while I know the plight of a Nigerian Lesbian is tragic, I wonder why you haven't commented on these stories:

George Tenet talking about being the scapegoat of the Bush Admin.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/washington/27intel.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

And this one about an the current state of the military leadership:

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2007/05/2635198

[moldy]

They are whackos.

Just like those whackos who firebomb abortion clinics.

[seekeronos]

Nah. Typical Liveral conventional "wisdumb" will dictate that the lefties will keep silent on this.

After all, it is the mud (hut) peoples' problem, not ours.

Of course, in 2035, after the Hudna of Detroit is signed by a Demorat President and her Dhimmicrat Congress, then groups of Islamist Shariah police willstart knocking on doors at 2am in West Hollywood and in the West Village/Chelsea in NYC to round up the LGBTs for the slaughter to slake Allah's thirst for blood... then it will be a tad too late.

[caseyschenkofsky]

Denigrating mud as a type of building material shows a total lack of awareness about where nearly all building materials come from. As for the second hand usage of "mud people", well that is simply hateful at best.

And anyone who has paid attention to KKK and other white supremacist imagery knows that Christian images or "northern" deities have historical and functional resonances. What do white supremacists do to intimidate people they are frightened of? They burn crosses on their lawns.

It is so easy to pull out the worst of example humanity from news wires and the like. And for many, the idea of U.S. based European Americans is just that...their strutting about and gnashing their teeth about politics leaves a bad taste in the mouth when U.S. history or the present situiation are looked at.

The challenge is to try to have a dialogue with people that you disagree with, hate, or think are "beneath" you. At least that is what I think as a mud person who is weary of quasi ADD alarmists.

[jong]

seekeronos' hallucinations seem to be getting worse.

No, liberals don't support Sharia law. Duh.

Speaking of ignoring stuff:

Yesterday, Mitt Romney said catching Osama Bin Laden wasn't worth the money it would cost. Wonder what Dan's response would have been if Pelosi had said that?

Long time no word from Dan on the US Attorney fiasco. I guess Dan would just wants to ignore Bush's attempt to turn the Justice Department into a branch of the Republican party.

[bryce]

A better question might be what are the right wing pundits saying about this. I don't hear Rush Limbaugh or James Dobson condeming Nigerian homo- bigots. One can a only assume that Dobson and his pals approve of Nigeria. For that matter why aren't any members of the minority party, I mean republicans, talking about this.

[southdakotaboy]

maybe what this country needs is a complete multicultural zone say in San Fran. we could tell the muslims they could go to that place and practice their religion to their hearts content. I mean the libs are all for multiculturalism right? The muslims are the religion of peace remember, nothing bad could happen right?

[bloodrage bob]

aaahhhhhhh, what a grand and glorious day for liberal obfuscations & rationalizations it is!!

liberal "a", a brave sort, informs us that the islamonut barbarians *are* "whackos" - a curiously bloodless insult, coming from a leftoid, but still, i guess it's *something* - but then......

overwhelmed by guilt; and fear of defying teacher's long arm ("teacher SAID never criticize anything non-western/christian!!"), quick like a bunny he/she tosses in a comment about the "abortion clinic bombers". (chuckles paternally) "running home to mama", as it were.

liberal "b" just sticks with the tried-n-true "disinformation" thing that's worked so well all these years. "liberals don't support sharia law. duh."

and yet.....and yet....and yet they never quite get around to *criticizing it*, do they? or complaining about it? or protests! liberals do protest marches for >>everything<<, right? gay rights; hot weather; mean bosses....they march up a storm.

when have any of you EVER seen a protest march against the practices of the barbaric bloodthirsty stone-age pseudoreligion known as "islam"? anyone? anyone?

[BARRASSO]

Is this all this site comes down to, point out something somewhere no one has heard about and then say that liberals don't care about it. It is hard to care about things you had not heard about. Are you pretending that if christian consevo nuts had the power they wouldn't make homosexuality illegal? By the by people usually complain more about things they have to deal with in close proximity than things on the other side of the world but why point out the obvious.

Why no post on George Tenets' new book? Is it because you love Islamofascism?

[Will]

I hope Condi enjoys her honeymoon!

[BARRASSO]

Why don't the traitorous libs ever march against cooking puppies in deep fryers!!

[bloodrage bob]

....and in a post attacking/pointing out islamic barbarism towards women/gays/both, the *obvious*, **natural** response from liberal commenters is, of course.....

a whine about tenet and stupid mean ol' bush.

[seekeronos]

For Casey:

At no time was I denigrating anyone or any particular race as "mud people", so let's take that "race card" off the table now, mmm'kay?

In case you (or anyone else) missed it, my usage of the term "mud (hut) people" was developed from and delivered in the context that the far-left liberals really aren't terribly concerned about the issues or impacts our decisions will have upon the third world (e.g. nations with substantial portions of their populations commonly believed to dwell in mud huts), and especially in this case, Iraq.

Funny thing is, most of those effete Starbucks Moccachino-sipping scions of America who park their privileged butts in our leftist-infiltrated halls of academia have little concern for their fellow Americans, or even their close neighbors. Yet more evidence about how the lies of "self esteem" and "self realization" have supplanted the "Golden Rule" of thinking of others ahead of themselves as the central guide for our behaviour to our fellow humans.

I know slippery slope arguments aren't favoured in any debate... but it is useful, and probably quite possible in this case:

Thosee ultra-lefty anti-war crowd fails to realize is, that by pulling out the US military now will allow Al-Q and the Shiite factions to turn a roiling mess into quite possible a regional bloodbath with a death toll to rival Stalin's pogroms or Hitler's Holocaust, along with crippling the global oil supply for at least a generation, if not permanently...

Shall I neglect too mention that our unilateral decision to abandon any influence over shaping Middle Eastern politics and suppressing the murderous cult of Islam also leaves open the possiblity that any or all of those nations would nuclearize, as well as effectively killing the NNPFT and opening up the Cold War again with Russia, China, Japan, the Koreas, India and Pakistan...

Then imagine how well it will be when Venezuela decides to leverage its oil wealth for nukes, and Brazil and the rest of South America... a worldwide nuclear arms race with everyone pointing nukes at everyone else. Which in itself might not be a bad thing, except for the fact that it would take only one crazy bastard to light that match in the global nuclear tinderbox.

And lest we forget, Islam itself promotes the idea of mass-murdering innocents for the greater glory of defeating the "Dar al-Harb", and bringing the world safely under the Iron Burkha of Sharia Law. It is not far fetched to see a nuclear Iran or even a nuclear Saudi Arabia deciding one day to nuke Israel first, and then the major coastal cities of the USA (which ironically, would take care of a lot of our problems with the left wing in the USA).

The Left, just like the Death Cult of Islam to which the Left has spread open her legs to embrace like a filthy disease ridden harlot, will do and say just about anything to topple what they view as "the enemy" (that would be conservative, American, Judeo-Christian and family values oriented, republican government). Just look at the way Hillary is hawking and pandering to every special interest and "political identity" she can.

She seems bent upon claiming the title of the Carpetbagger Queen.

[Purple Avenger]

"And this one about an the current state of the military leadership"

Meh, Harry Reid says Petraeus is a liar, and he's the only one on staff these days that don't fit the fighting the last war syndrome.

Of course the bulk of today's high ranking general staff were making their way up during the Clinton era, so are you trying to blame Bill Clinton for promoting a group of largely ineffective generals?

[LOL]

heres my comment

It's horrible, but we don't control the world.

[LOL]

nice bit of sophistry there PA.

If you had anything but a partisan memory, you'd recall that all the generals who disagreed with Bush's plan and challenged the "we'll be greeted as liberators/only a few weeks" notions were asked to resign.

[caseyschenkofsky]

As far as I'm concerned, referencing the term mud people as if it comes from the imagined mouth of another and not from the mind of the writer is playing some kind of card, and a flimsy one at that. Your second argument is much clearer than the first without the labeling.

I do feel that quite a few Americans in power/with privilege (left/right/whatever) do not "care" about others around them or far away who are poorer and might even lack basic services.

Any "unilateral" decision to do anything in the Middle East...well, isn't that how we ended up in this current situation to begin with? Anyways, since we've been lumbering along since the fifties to lock in oil interests in the Southern Hemisphere, why not look at deaths in the ME in relation to that... Our economic interests have been a factor in destabalizing the region for over half a century. And any notion of Islam as "friend" or "enemy" is just a floating cipher that is defined largely by the specifics of those economic interests. One can become morally outraged about Islam because they control oil and won't play nice with us. If they didn't have oil, then it would be a Rwanda (there's you're Holocaust). If Rwanda had "terrorists," then it would be Ethiopia. And etc. Nigeria is interesting bec. on the one hand they do have oil, but on the other they are almost 50/50 Christian and Muslim. See:
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/ni.html

Colonization and conversion (both Islam and Christian) preceeded oil interests. So it is a very different mix than the ME, yet could easily tip over given the fact that the state does not fairly distibute its oil wealth to its citizens.

If people on this blog were really about economic empowerment, we'd be talking about Nigeria's nearly (roughly) 30 billion dollar export of oil to the U.S. and our failure to push the govt. to more fairly distribute the wealth and civil rights reform, not whatever it is that we're getting worked up about here. Oh, and then the multinational corporations...

[Leatherneck]

Oh snap!

[bloodrage bob]

odd, but i don't recall hearing things like "it's horrible, but we don't control the world" when the liberals screamed shrilly and demanded action against the mean ol' white south african regime. or those awful ol' kosovars: the ones being mean to their noble islamic neighbors.

THEN, when the oppressors were **white males**, THEN it was *imperative* that we do something. now!!

today, since the oppressors/genociders of the moment are both african AND muslim, the liberals prefer a calmer approach. sudanese >>muslims<< currently committing genocide in darfur? a pity, but "we don't control the world".

naaaah, you're right: no hypocrisy THERE.

[Hard Right]

"The challenge is to try to have a dialogue with people that you disagree with, hate, or think are "beneath" you."

Does that apply to terrorists as well? From your posts the answer seems to be yes.

As for Tenet, he wants to pull a Bill Clinton. That means pretend what he actually said and did in the past didn't happen. You know, "I was obssessed with OBL," vs. Mr. I didn't mean it was a "slam dunk" like that. Too bad Wooward documented Tenet using that term to GUARANTEE W that the info on WMDs was solid not once, but twice in the space of a minute or so. Ooops.

[seekeronos]

You have some good points, Casey.

But to say that Islam and its state of enmity (toward the US/Western World) is defined by economic interests, I'd say is correct only as much as the ability of the Islamist rulers can control their (a) populations of underemployed, underfed, and certainly undereducated men who are easily controlled by (b) demagogues in the form of radical imams and mullahs who preach that toxic blend of anti-western violence under the call of "Jihad".

Islam itself is at enmity with anyone or any institution that is "unislamic". I do not see evidence for anything within Islam that self-regulates the conduct of its adherents, that is, anything close to what we could call a "moderate" form of Islam (as analogous to mainstream Protestant Christianity, for example).

Judging from the violent conduct of many of its adherents, and from its central tenets and principles, the "radical Islamists" are well within what could be considered "mainstream Islam".

Those Muslims who reject the Jihad against the West (or any other un-islamic entities), seek peaceful co-existence with non-Muslims, and who would theoretically repudiate the actions of thier extremist bretheren would be at the fringes of the most "liberal" type of Islam. I daresay one would have to cherry-pick to find such Muslims among the silenced majority who dare not speak against their Jihadist brethren.

Most of the harsh, radical forms of Sunni Islam emanate from Saudi Arabia (home to OBL as well), Wahabbism and Salafi variants in particular. Saudi Arabia narrowly controls these wretched, evil factions partially by (empty) threats, and mostly by funding of their efforts (especially madrassahs and terrorist training camps), with the bare minimum control so as not to alienate these powerful voices of jihad against the cash and oil-glutted Emirs and Princes and other high sons of House Sa'ud.

The Shi'ites and their power bases in Hezbollah, Syria, Iran and now substantial swaths of Iraq are "controlled" in similar manner by the Ayatollahs in Tehran.

I believe that if stripped of any pretense of Saudi and/or Iranian control, and (mostly avoiding targets in the CONUS on account of the $$$ filtered by the otherwise unmonitored Islamist mosques and community centres here)... these animals would no sooner hesitate to spread their murder and mayhem here in both scope and intensity than blink an eye.

[Zifnab]

Hey, speaking of people from Niger, I hear Rush has a kick-ass tune to sing along with.

I believe it's entitled "Barack the Magic Negro"
http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/16705/1/rush-barak.mp3/

And its totally not racist, before you even ask.

[JimK]

Oh look, Zifnab tried to change the subject and still doesn't know what is actually going on. See, Rush - idiot though he may be - was actually mocking a LIBERAL columnist that called Barack "The Magical Negro."

But, you know...keep on trying! Some day you're bound to get something right.

[Katie]

When did Rosie move to Nigeria?

[Phoenix]

Yeah, Katie, she did. They're using her mud-slinging to build more huts.

[bloodrage bob]

ziffy! sunshine! *good* ta see ya!!!!

now ziff, before you run away like a chickenass bitch yet again, i DID want to remind you of the 2 questions you've been frantically,desperately, 'filled-with-the-terror-of-a-little-girl-seeing-a-slasher-movie-for-the-first-time' fleeing and dodging for quite awhile now:

1) (st.) phoenix asked you "your idea of the proper and proportionate response to 9-11". you ran away and hid. never answered it.

2) after you claimed you were a Texan, i asked you what part of Texas you might be from. after eliminating all the parts where the normal folks live, i surmised that you could only live in either austin, or the montrose district. you never answered THAT question, either.

c'mon, ziffster: grow a set. either that, or run away and stay away. i'm running out of synonyms for "spectacularly gutless", when referring to you.