Those Sick Animal Rights Hazmats

Update: Also Video here

In-freakin-credible.

I don't think I've ever seen anything else that makes it so clear, the animal rights crowd doesn't love animals nearly as much as it hates humans - and almost by definition, themselves.

At three months old, however, the playful 19lb bundle of fur is at the centre of an impassioned debate over whether he should live or die.

Animal rights activists argue that he should be given a lethal injection rather than brought up suffering the humiliation of being treated as a domestic pet.

"The zoo must kill the bear," said spokesman Frank Albrecht. "Feeding by hand is not species-appropriate but a gross violation of animal protection laws."

The animals in this story aren't the polar bears. It's the nut jobs who think to prove you care for the animal, you have to put it to death.

As a side note - I guess this demonstrates that Liberals really do love all those aborted children, after all. They just don't want them raised by human beings. Maybe instead of abortion, we can split the difference and start abandoning babies in the woods.

Comments

[Dan]

"There is nothing in The Constitution about women voting, doctor/patient privilege or abolishing slavery, either. What's your point?"

Actually the 13th amendment to the Constitution abolished slavery and the 19th allowed women the vote. As for doctor patient privledge; that only exists where states protect it through law. The federal Govt recognizes no such privledge.

So buy a clue before you open your piehole. That's just asking too much though isn't it?

[Zifnab]

"Zinfab, I don't think you are on solid footing with you commerce clause argument, as private aircraft travelling from state to state and abroad, necessarily implicate interstate commerce."

I'm just happy to be talking about something other than Dan's Polar Bears.

[yyy]

I say, it's time for another post on Al Gore!

The Bush Administration has gotten a lot of bad news this week...Iraqis pessimistic, the ongoing DOJ scandal.

It is definitely time for another Al Gore Is The Enemy rant.

[Legalize]

Dan, the Roe and Whalen cases recognize the doctor/patient privilege, and HIPPA recognizes the doctor/patient privilege.

[Hard Right]

You lefties don't see the massive, monstrous hypocrissy in PETA uncecessarily euthanizing HEALTHY ANIMALS? You are mental cases.

[yyy]

I'm still waiting for some EVIDENCE about PETA unnecessarily or illegally euthanizing animals, or any ideas on what PETA is supposed to do with thousands of animals?

[Hard Right]

You want evidence? Look it up genius. You think you're smart. Is google too hard for you to figure out? Maybe PETA killing animals wouldn't be a big deal if they didn't pretend to care about them so much.

[yyy]

All I found is a single instance of two people who appear to have been killing animals and not taking them to shelters, which is wrong and should have been denounced by PETA not defended.

Otherwise, I found a lot of crap about how PETA could 'afford' to keep the animals alive, and wondering if the donors knew PETA 'killed animals' none of which is very compelling.

It looks like we are talking about two dumbasses who didn't knwo what they were doing, who were running a substandard operation and who should be up on charges and should not have been defended by PETA.

I don't see much acknowledgment that it is impossible to find homes for all the animals that are abused, surrendered or feral and there are serious moral questions about keeping them alive in cages and I can tell you most definitely there is NOT enough money to build beautiful state of the art no kill shelters all around the country where they have play rooms, dog runs and time out of their cages. So, euthanasia is the only answer until people stop adopting pets they don't know how to take care of.

[templar knight]

Very interesting comments. And my dog's name is Ginger, and my daughter's cat is named Snowball.

[Zifnab]

Notice how the Polar Bear thread keeps getting rightie responses but the Attorney General story is virtually right-wing free?

Fascinating.

[Hard Right]

Poor Zif, his ADD doesn't allow him to stay on the subject. His mental illness doesn't allow him to stay in touch with reality.

[daveinboca]

Dan knocks it out of the park in his last sentence. Diangone has no problem killing kids, and must be part German. Didn’t the Germans have a little program a while back to make their national social ethnic balance more “proper?”

Oh yeah, it was called National Socialism. Now they’re applying it to animals too. Makes sense.

Zifnab, check your meds and take a second look. You'll find a lot of comments on both sides, not the lock-step goose-stepping [GDR and North Korean types] the left adopts because of its mass psychosis.

[Jack Hamilton]

Hey Moose where is Squirrel? Must be looking for yellow cake up bear butt.

[Duke DeLand]

You wanna know about PETA.....

Just go read this: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petarebuttal.cfm

Then think again.....two people?

10,000 animals.....yet a successful animal location and delivery place within 4 miles of them????

PETA Sucks.....

[Phoenix]

LEGALIZE speaks:

"Comeback to what? You want me to respond to another one of your asinine "positions" that assumes what it seeks to prove - again? Just because you mistake absurd trains of thought that validate your prejudices, doesn't really mean that said absurd trains of though (marked by a total lack of ANY REAL LIFE correlative or causative implications), should be entertained with a response. Arguing such an inane point only gives credence to the stupidity you embrace so gleefully."

You ass. You answered and argued. ha ha ha. Read your last sentence. Oh, god, you're easy.

Now, I based my remarks on you being stupid, above in this thread, on the fact that you don't get the irony of Dan's post. Get it? That makes you really really stupid, Legal. Your response to me demonstrates that irony is way past your intellectual powers.

[templar knight]

Phoenix,

You pwn'd Legalize, you rascal. I have to admit I saw it coming, especially when you awaited his "genius comeback". I knew he wouldn't be able to resist, mainly because his high opinion of himself prevents him from thinking clearly at times.

But, nonetheless, I kinda like Legalize and yyy, at least they attempt to debate the topic, which is more than I can say for BumblingBobinStamfordorwherever and Ziffynabster. I think Legalize is just young and dumb, he'll learn, and I can't say about yyy. At times the guy makes sense, and then he turns around and doesn't. I think he has good parents, but he wants to rebel. Still, you have to admit that this is the best entertainment on the internet.

[ConservativeForAnimalRights]

Have any of you tried Googling "Foundation For Bears" or the name of this supposed animal rights activist, "Frank Albrecht", who is quoted in the articles about Knut?

Nothing comes up except links to the Daily Mail article and other articles about Knut.

There isn't even a Web site for this supposed "Foundation For Bears" group.

Haven't journalists learned to fact check since the Stephen Glass incident and others like it?

Either this Frank guy is a nutjob, or someone is trying to make Animal Rights activists look bad.

I don't know of any animal rights activist or group who would say Knut should be euthanized. That's just stupid.

[Legalize]

"You ass. You answered and argued. ha ha ha. Read your last sentence. Oh, god, you're easy."

Uh, I didn't "argue" anything. I pointed out Riehl's fallacy. What are you on?

"Now, I based my remarks on you being stupid, above in this thread, on the fact that you don't get the irony of Dan's post. Get it?"

There is no "irony" in his attempt to equate killing polar bears to abortion - you know the bit you snipped out - that part. "Irony" would require an actual relationship. Get it?

"That makes you really really stupid, Legal. Your response to me demonstrates that irony is way past your intellectual powers."

Yeeeeeeah. You don't actually know what "irony" means do you? You also don't really understand cause and effect evidently.

[yyy]

It may be that you can't find this guy because he's German.

Not to say that he couldn't be a fraud, but with the head of the zoo saying the little bear won't be killed, it would be logical to ssume the controvery started from some kind of group had publicly said the bear should be euthanized.

[Humanitarian2112]

Mmmm. Polar bear. It's wonderful with an orange dipping sauce. What would you call polar bear veal? I bet it's tender.

[templar knight]

There you go again, yyy, making sense. You're going to get kicked out of the moonbat fraternity if you keep doing such an outrageous thing.

[Hard Right]

"...Either this Frank guy is a nutjob, or someone is trying to make Animal Rights activists look bad..."

I hope it's untrue. As for the latter, they need no help as they do a magnificent job on their own.

YYY, the answers you seek have been posted in this thread. If one of you other personalities takes over you might see that. Happy Googling.

[yyy]

I don't think I'm a member of the moonbat fraternity since I'mm anti-gun control, anti-affirmative action, anti-federal taxes, anti-welfare, anti-big government and pro-death penalty.

But, being pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-free speech, pro-civil liberties, pro-sex education, anti-creationism, anti-torture, anti-war, anti-theocracy, pro assisted suicide and anti-war on drugs, pro-UN, pro-Palestinian...it's hard to say.

[Zifnab]

"What would you call polar bear veal? I bet it's tender."

One of my co-workers once shot a bear going through his campsite while he was out hunting. Being from the "you shoot it, you eat it" school of hunting (thank god he's never had to shoot a burglar), he decided to skin the bear and make some steaks.

Cows, sheep, and goats are what is called "red meat", and have a very different flavor than pigs, birds, and people which are "white meat". Bears - as well as dogs, cats, and other carnivors - are "black meat", and there's a very, very, very good reason you don't find black meat steaks in your local supermarket. Blek.

[Phoenix]

Legal - Nope. You don't get irony. Dan's post nails it. Your loss.

"You also don't really understand cause and effect evidently."

Let me see. I wonder. hmmmm. How about this?:

Legalize, moron supreme, causes me to act like a troll, which I'm beginning to enjoy despite my proper upbringing.

The effect of me being trollish is Legalize being a doo-doo head in upping his insults.

Is that it, counselor?

[Hard Right]

I don't think I'm a member of the moonbat fraternity since I'mm anti-gun control, anti-affirmative action, anti-federal taxes, anti-welfare, anti-big government and pro-death penalty.

"But, being pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-free speech, pro-civil liberties, pro-sex education, anti-creationism, anti-torture, anti-war, anti-theocracy, pro assisted suicide and anti-war on drugs, pro-UN, pro-Palestinian...it's hard to say."

So you are anti-gun control, anti-affirmative action, anti-federal taxes, anti-welfare, anti-big government and pro-death penalty...but in favor of the dems.

"But, being pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-free speech, pro-civil liberties, pro-sex education, anti-creationism, anti-torture, anti-war, anti-theocracy, pro assisted suicide and anti-war on drugs, pro-UN, pro-Palestinian...it's hard to say."

Considering you definitions of "pro environment, pro-civil liberties, anti-creationism, anti-torture, anti-war, anti-theocracy, and anti-war on drugs, PRO-UN, PRO-PALESTINIAN, it's not hard to say. You are a raging, mentally ill, wacko loon.

[Hard Right]

Pro-Palestinian. If that isn't proof you're severely brain damaged, nothing is.

[templar knight]

Phoenix,

Funny stuff, girl!

[Rob Kaufman]

Wow, Phoenix is continuing her role as right wing slut. You go girl, you have it down pat.

[bloodrage bob]

also, since we're bitch-slapping the ridiculous liberal yyy, i was wondering....

in an earlier post, yyy (of course) defended the sacred right to butcher fetuses as being a grand part of the western tradition, and then castigated the inbred cousin-marriers who dared to deviate from the party line with the following words: "if you disagree with abortion, fine. don't have one."

ok. yyy, can we use *YOUR* "logic" on those touchy gun control & global warming issues? if you don't like guns, just don't buy one? if you don't agree that global warming is manmade, then keep your a/c real cold and drive SUV's?

and you liberals promise to leave our guns & SUV's alone? is *that* what the liberals are saying? that you'll respect our right to our own opinions? that you'd never EVER presume to mandate laws to force us to live OUR lives in accordance with YOUR statist dictates?

no? no can do?

then why shouldn't we do everything we can to ban your precious abortions? why shouldn't we hold hearings? and make propaganda films masquerading as documentaries? and sue abortionists in hideously expensive RICO actions? hmmm?

[Legalize]

"Legal - Nope. You don't get irony. Dan's post nails it. Your loss."

Wow, that's convincing. Riehl is right on becaus you say so. Well wow.

"You also don't really understand cause and effect evidently."

"Let me see. I wonder. hmmmm. How about this?:

Legalize, moron supreme, causes me to act like a troll, which I'm beginning to enjoy despite my proper upbringing.

The effect of me being trollish is Legalize being a doo-doo head in upping his insults.

Is that it, counselor?"

Cause and effect? No, it's you whining again about mean old me hurting your feelings, while hurling your own insults. Problem is, I don't get PMSy when you and your fanboys insult me. See how that works?

[Brett]

Doc--

That would be the 9th amendment, thank you very much. Sure, it's unenforced, as honoring it would overturn the majority of legislation promoting by all factions in our polity.

[BamaGrad84]

"I don't think I'm a member of the moonbat fraternity since I'mm anti-gun control, anti-affirmative action, anti-federal taxes, anti-welfare, anti-big government and pro-death penalty.

But, being pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-free speech, pro-civil liberties, pro-sex education, anti-creationism, anti-torture, anti-war, anti-theocracy, pro assisted suicide and anti-war on drugs, pro-UN, pro-Palestinian...it's hard to say."

Hey HardRight, I really think all the above shows is you are some kind of anarchic socialist ready to proclaim yourself a god--you don't want to pay taxes or have a "big government", but you do believe in the death penalty. Who would say what crimes deserve the death penalty--you? No thanks--I don't trust your judgement. Here's why:

You don't want war or torture, but support suicide bombers (pro-Palestinian), want to help people kill themselves and their unborn children, want open use of harmful drugs, and the destruction of a free country (Israel). And you don't believe in any God that might be bigger than you (anti-creationism, anti-theocracy).

You are a typical liberal nut-job who doesn't realized that all the stuff you say you want (peace, freedom, etc.) has to come from having a morally-based government big enough to protect you and keep others who have decided that you and anyone else that doesn't believe as they do are unworthy of life. Your positions are illogical and unsustainable. You can't have it both ways in this violent world--either you have freedom through strength and established law or you have slavery, degradation, torture and death. And the guys you support are the ones that want to give you that death! Crazy!!!!!

[yyy]

You people really give public schools a bad name.

Of course you dolts would have to believe that being pro-Palestinian is the SAME as supporting suicide bombers. I realize you get all your news from Fox and Little Green Footballs but there are MILLIONS of Palestinians who simply want to live in peace, don't strap bombs to themselves and don't support killing civilians for their cause. It is exactly the same way you believe that criticizing Israel for anything, even killing children and dropping cluster bombs on villages is the SAME as hating Jews, hating Israel or wishing for its destruction, the same way you equate being against the war of choice in Iraq with hating American and hating the troops.

The world is not black and white, you are not 'with us or against us' it is not full of 100% good guys and 100% evil guys and nobody else. It is very convenient for speech writers and TV producers to show a world with no gray but that is a dangerous path that leads to exactly the kind of mindnumbing hate and stupidity that is seen on Dan's blog every day.

Very few people on this blog, including Dan, can make a cogent argument about anything. All you do is rant and rave about freedom, values, the unborn and the arabs. You have no knowledge of policy, history or anything else remotely connecting to rational decision making. Nope, it's all about 'killing babies and killing bears' and 'no SUV's on Mars, Al Gore is a hypocrite' 'the arabs are coming, the arabs are coming'.

Hysteria, hate and rampant stereotyping are very bad foundations on which to build anything positive.

And yeah, I know I'm a liberal, stupid, moonbat, ignorant traitor. I got it.

[BamaGrad84]

Oh, contrare! It is the Palestinian people who are teaching their children that to be a suicide bomber is the greatest thing to which they could aspire! Who have voted--CHOSEN in a free election--to have their representatives and government be made up of a group that has vowed the destruction of Israel! Who regularly demonstrate in the streets and chant "Death to Israel" and "Death to America"! Is someone making them do that?

Know history? Oh, puh-lease!!! Do you know nothing of history yourself? That you cannot buy peace with land? That if the other party in the negotiations has no intention of ever complying with the agreement that you WILL comply with, you are only being set up for later destruction? I believe we should do what Ronald Reagan did--"trust but verify"!

And, yes, there are some groups of people who hate us simply because we are free and believe differently. If the folks in Iraq are only "freedom fighters", why do they not have the sense to lie low and let us get out of there, then come out and fight for "freedom"? We would already be leaving if not for their violence! They are NOT freedom fighters; they are seeking to attack Americans and establish a government that is directed by others (Iran, Syria) and is repressive and dictatorial. A "theocracy" that you say you do not believe in!

Al Gore is a hypocrite, as is any person who says one thing and lives another way. I would have respect for him if he had an energy-efficient home and car and chose to travel with an eye to reducing pollution. If he really believes in Global Warming, why is he not doing everything he can to reduce it himself as well as tell everyone else to do so?

You are not stupid--illogical and irrational, maybe.

[BamaGrad84]

By the way--give public schools a bad name? Don't need to--they earn it all by themselves!

[yyy]

Seems to me Israel bought land for peace with Egypt and Syria to a lesser degree. Israel has really two choices, they can give the Palestinians a state that is legitimate, that gives them control of water, infrastruture and other resources necessary OR they can officially annex the Occupied Territories,make them part of Israel and grant full citizenship to the Palestinians living on the West Bank and Gaza. It doesn't matter to me that much what they choose to do or which is best for the long term security of both peoples. But the status quo keeping millions of Palestinains in a no man's land, walled in on all sides, living in abject poverty, no chance for prosperity cannot go on forever. Given what life is like in the Occupied Territories it should come as no surprise to anyone that they are a breeding ground for hate. It may be that the time for a Palestinian state has come and gone and the current generation is too radicalized....Fatah is a secular organization, Palestinians used to be among the most secular muslims in the ME, today, Hamas, which IS a radical Islamic group, which does want to rule Palestinians under Islamic law is more popular. That is a people going backwards, not forward. That is more people embracing terror not less. There are COUNTLESS examples of Jews who have visited the Occupied Territories writing about the horrible conditions they live under, these Jews don't want Israel destroyed but they do recognize that the current sttuation is bad for everyone.

I never said the people in Iraq were only 'freedom fighters' it seems pretty obvious if they are torturnign and killing their fellow Iraqis, using POWER DRILLS on them while they are alive that 'freedom' is the least of their concerns. However, none of this was going on until we invaded the country and opened Pandora's Box. How to close it? I don't know. I do know that the Iraqi war of choice should be a lesson in why war is always the choice of last resort and that the law of unintended consequences is never stronger than in situations such as this.

[seekeronos]

"So next time you put on a fur coat made of baby seals or shove firecrackers up the ass of a neighborhood cat, just remember that you're not doing anything worse than your run-of-the-mill polar bear murdering PETA bastard."

Indeed? Have _you_ actually tried putting firecrackers up a cat's arse?

I don't think the cat would let it go unprotested, or without many marks on the would-be feline anal invader.

But baby harp seal fur coats? Mmmmmmm. Baby harp seal fur. Ain't nothin' like it.

And polar bear meat? Haven't tried any yet, but don't mind if I do. I have this excellent German recipe for bear I've been dying to try out.

Y'all PETA freakazoids seem willing to kill a poor little baby bear - and not even willing to eat its remains.

Just for the offense of being born in a zoo and being hand-fed. How sad indeed.

So: when do we start lining up everyone over 50 years of age for cyanide shots ala "Logan's Run", Liberals?

[BamaGrad84]

I happen to agree with you that the plight of the Palestinians needs to be addressed. These people need to have hope of a free future for their children, but they also have to want that themselves. I'll give you an example of how it could be successful--Dr. Martin Luther King chose to confront inequality, squalor, and blatant racism in non-violent ways. That broke the "you hit me, I'll hit you back and harder" approach that had been the norm. Look at that lesson and then help the Palestinians realize what they need to do--peacefully demand freedom and democracy. If Israel annexes the "occupied territories", they need to either incorporated the people there in some fashion or settle the displaced peoples in a land of their own. Also, you can not decide you will give the choicest pieces of land to only one or the other of the parties, and you can not give the Palestinian people lands that are so militarily strategic it would leave Israel vulnerable. Be realistic--the Arab world hates the Jews and does want to destroy Israel. Israel can not be left in a weakened position, but the Palestinians do need basic human dignity. I do not believe it is "Black or White".

And you are right that trying to find the correct solution in Iraq is vexing. I find it encouraging that the violence is going down in Iraq with the troop surge and hope the Iraqi government and people take the chance they are being given to establish local law enforcement and expel the terrorists. We are giving them the chance to develop strong peaceful neighborhoods so they can live prosperous lives. Helping them to build the infrastructure and organized protection so we can then totally leave it to them has to be the next priority. But that also must be accompanied by education to the value of the rule of a law that respects all human rights. I don't want our guys there, but I also do not want another Taliban situation that leads to further attacks on the US in the future.

[yyy]

I just don't think that Iraq has enough of, or any tradition of Democracy in order to make that leap. Look at Russia. No Democracy there because there hasn't been a hint of any kind of Democracy since the Czar disbanded the Russian version of Parliament. All the Russian people know is an authoritarian, corrupt dictatorship, by whatever name you want to call it. Adding in some capitalistic elements doesn't change the fundamental culture, just like holding elections doesn't make a Democracy. At one time, pre-Saddam Iraq might have been a very good candidate for Democracy, it might even have been a good candicate for Democracy IF the invasion had been handled in a competant manner. But, I don't see it now. I don't trust Maliki, I don't see any evidende that Iraq is going to be a Democracy or anything other than another dictatorship that may or may not end up an ally of the US and may or may not turn out worse than it was before we 'liberated' it.

[yyy]

PS, back to the polar bear.

As I should have known, Dan took everything out of context. It appears nobody is calling for the bear to be killed NOW, what they are saying is that the zoo staff should not have intervened and if his mother abandoned him they should have let him die. I strongly disagree with viewpoint as well, if the bear is already in a zoo and his mother was a former circus bear [nice, no wonder she abanoned her cubs] then there is zero chance he's ever getting back out into the wild, so why let him die. But, there is a qualitative difference betwen arguing there should have been no intervention in the first place and arguing that the little bear should be killed now. Probably too subtle of a distinction for most of you to get, though.

[Hard Right]

Wow, Phoenix is continuing her role as right wing slut. You go girl, you have it down pat.

What's wrong Rob, did your pre-teen boy cut you off again?

BTW Bama, I was quoting YYY. Those aren't my beliefs.

[Hard Right]

"Wow, Phoenix is continuing her role as right wing slut. You go girl, you have it down pat."

What's wrong Rob, did your pre-teen boy cut you off again?

BTW Bama, I was quoting YYY. Those aren't my beliefs.

As for "nuances" you're the one who thinks clarification is "back tracking".

[BamaGrad84]

Sorry about the divergence--

A zoo is not a natural environment and the zoo keepers JOB is to feed and care for the animals. What sense does it make to let an animal starve to death? What would the libs have said if they had allowed the cub to starve to death? I can see the headlines demanding their prosecution now!

And now that they have saved the cub from starvation, they are supposed to kill the cub because it's unnatural for it to be fed by humans? Who feeds the adult mother bear? Is she transported every so often to the Arctic tundra and allowed to hunt for her food? Oh, that's right, she doesn't know how--she was a circus bear!

I'm glad the bear is being fed. I'd do the same myself.

[yyy]

What sense does it make to let an animal starve to death?
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It makes no sense, of course. It's idiotic. Even IF they had been planning to try and release Knut back into the wild, which they weren't, if the choice is 'let nature take it's course' and he dies or 'give him a bottle' and he lives, OF COURSE he should have been hand fed.

As a flaming liberal retard animal lover, I have a lot of issues with zoos and am totally against the circus, but given the state of environmental conservation without zoos many more species would become extinct. There are a lot of questions about whether wild animals raised in captivity would ever be able to be reintroduced and what the result of the reduced gene pool would be on any given species, but a bad chance is better than no chance.

There are extremists on all sides, and I would consider the idea of letting a baby polar bear starve to death in a zoo in furtherance of the abstract principle that he's a wild animal to be taking things to a ridiculous extreme.

The bear is adorable, anyone with a heart would feed him.

[Mikey NTH]

The whole article is an example of someone taking a position to an absurd conclusion. The idea of not interfering with wild animals so tha animal can socialize to the wild is a good one, but as noted above, this wild animal is not going to be released in the wild, so interfering with it by feeding it, etc. shouldn't be a problem.

As a rule, don't interfere with wild animals. But there are exceptions to this rule. And this exception is just too darned cute! (Until it grows up to be a real big polar bear).

As an aside, the Zoo now has a famous animal as a spokesperson to use to raise awareness, like Smokey the Bear (was a real bear) is used. That is not a bad thing.

[Rob Kaufman]

Excuse me Limp Wrong but was your retort supposed to mean anything? Or is that what passes for a witty conservative comeback these days? I am sure they have a job open for you at the 1/2 hour news hour.

[Frantz Fanon]

Pray tell what organization does this "Frank Albrecht " belong to? On wait it isn't in the article... why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T REPRESENT ANY GROUP, DOES HE EVEN EXIST? Who knows? Who cares? All I know is I hate animal rights activists. It doesn't matter that the original source of the article that everyone is quoting is the "Bild", a tabloid with a sleazy, sensationalist reputation, the German Equivalent of the National Enquirer.

Inquiring minds wanna know... Why are conservatives such reactionary nut jobs who care less for fact and more for convoluted lies, sweeping generalizations, stereotypes that "prove" their point?

the REAL story here that the media doesn't do it's job correctly and realies on viral sensationalism and fiction for their own self promotion.

I mean I expect the dim-witted celebrity addicted public/asinine bloggers to be this gullible but jeez the media are suppose to be paid PROFESSIONALS who we are suppose to TRUST. Way to compromise journalistic integrity "liberal" media. It's a dark day for democracy when you can't trust the media to do it's job

WMDs? Saddam caused 9/11? Bah, all i know is I love my Hummer and hate dirty A-rabs.

In other news I love the 3rd Reich-like font you use for the title of your blog, how apro-pro.