Well, ain't this special ... this below from one of the flying imams who everyone knew would eventually get around to filing a law suit.
"To date, we continue to be defamed and feel anxiety every time we fly," Didmar Faja said today. "We are respected community leaders and this incident has caused us extreme harm."
Oh, those poor imams. Allow me to play cupid for our aspiring jihadi. All they really need to do is hook up with good ol' Fadhel al-Maliki:
... authorities found a suspicious device lodged in his body. The FBI said he told screeners the objects, a polished stone and a piece of metal, were used to fight stress.
Note to the anxious and litigious little flying imams: learn from Fadhel, guys ... shove it up your ass.


..."feel anxiety every time we fly"
Well pigf----r, after your security probe so did the passengers. It's obvious they are hoping for a settlement. I hope the airline fights them to the end.
Posted by: Hard Right | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 05:58 PM
The towelheaded freaks want to provoke and then sue. An old trick that the airline should dig in its heels against. But given the sociopathic madness of some "Religion of Peace" adherents, the smart money is probably on the airline to cave and do a settlement.
This is blackmail, pure and simple.
Posted by: daveinboca | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 07:16 PM
Maybe the airline can get some sort of Presidential Pardon.
Posted by: Zifnab | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 08:23 PM
Maybe the airline can get some sort of Presidential Pardon.
Posted by: Zifnab |
For what?
Posted by: Phoenix | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 08:58 PM
It's horrible. If a Christian went on the plane shouting Praise God! Didn't go to the seats, requested instruments that they didn't need, they would be removed right away, and I doubt that Focus on the Family would be suing.
Even if they did, they wouldn't have a chance.
Posted by: Jeff | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 10:36 PM
This whole incident was a set up, and I wish to hell the passengers on that plane had beat the hell out of the lot of them. As a matter of fact, I believe the passengers on that flight might have a case against the so-called "flying imams". They don't have the right to scare people the way they did.
Posted by: templar knight | Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Hey, TK, that is not a bad idea. People could claim PTSD and anxiety and all kinds of things like fear of flying. Get them all to sue the pants off those imams.
Posted by: Phoenix | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 12:04 AM
Yeah, praying and talking about George Bush are really scary. It goes without saying that looking or acting "different" is always grounds for a good American beat down.
Posted by: yyy | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 10:16 AM
yyy, you're kidding, right?
Posted by: templar knight | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Kidding about what? That muslims have been turned into the "other" by the right wing nut jobs? That it is totally insane to think that a bunch of clerics returning from a conference on improving islamic/american relations were either doing a terrorist dry run [as you nutters have claimed repeatedly] or prayed 'loudly' and said negative things about Bush in order to provoke their detainment.
It seems to me a clear case of massive over reaction to some arab men who acted differently and since BushCo have told Americans over and over that terrorists are among us and that muslims hate us for our freedom it isn't surprising that the passengers/pilot/police overreacted to the scary, praying muslim imams.
I attempted at the time it occured, when the nutters were sure this was a DRY RUN, to explain that it, again, made no sense to draw attention to oneself if you were about to commit a terrorist act or doing a dry run for a terrorist act. I was told of course that I didn't know anything and that what they were really doing was this dry run so that when the "real" terrorists got on the plane and prayed loud that everyone would be afraid to do anything...totally ridiculous and illogical.
Posted by: yyy | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 11:14 AM
YYY, you are an idiot. You clearly don't know anything about what happened despite the info being available everywhere. They depend on cranially rectal inverted morons like you to further their jihad. They were testing security and if you can't see that then you are brain dead.
Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 12:29 PM
No, I think it is you that are brain dead.
A terrorist would not draw attention to himself, either by praying louding or by speaking negatively about Bush or the war on terror.
Thus, the actions that they took which caused suspicion would in no way relate to any kind of dry run.
The fact that anyone STILL thinks this was a dry run to test security shows how unhinged the nutters are.
As far as them sitting in different areas of the plane, oh the horror, or of asking for seatbelt extensions, my god off with their heads, the entire contention is ridiculous.
Posted by: yyy | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 01:06 PM
"Right wing nut jobs"?? Have you checked out DKos, HufPo (PuffHo) or the DU lately? Talk about nut jobs . . .
You have a lot of nerve AH
Posted by: ConserView | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 01:07 PM
Thanks for proving me right. You are an idiot and typical leftard. You don't have the facts, won't get the facts, then want to tell those who do that they are wrong. You should be kept away from pointy objects so you won't hurt yourself.
Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 01:09 PM
"That it is totally insane to think that a bunch of clerics returning from a conference on improving islamic/american relations were either doing a terrorist dry run [as you nutters have claimed repeatedly] or prayed 'loudly' and said negative things about Bush in order to provoke their detainment."
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I think those imams are just a bunch of media and lawsuit whores looking to make a guaranteed buck. It's always about the "identity politics" and the accomodating the "victim" with you muzzie-lovers and liberals.
Erm. Let's review:
(1) Imams make loud - excessively loud - prayers in the airport. Praying is fine, but is it necessary to draw attention to yourself in doing so?
(2) Imams choose seating arrangements that mimic those of the 9-11 terrorists (zones of control -- some in front, some in the middle, and the rest in the rear) and request seat-belt extensions when no particular imam was so grossly overweight as to require them.
(3) Imams make numerous people and aircrew nervous: perhaps not the best way to inspire confidence in your activities aboard airliners.
Even if it wasn't a dry run per se, it sure looks like one.... and if not, it was baiting the hook for a big ole ACLU/CAIR lawsuit to further paint them as "poor wittle victims", who we will need to bend over backwards so as not to offend them.
As for promoting "Islamic-American" relations, their view of it is as simple as this:
(Muslim: Always right, never wrong, Master, and above the Law)
(American: Always wrong, salve/dhimmi, and free to abuse and mistreat and humiliate at all times)
Posted by: seekeronos | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 04:04 PM
Seeker, you left out that a person who spoke Arabic overheard them making anti-American comments. Also, multiple members of the group kept going back to talk to the other Imams and refused orders to back to their seats delaying boarding and departure.
One one more thing for the tard YYY, there was another conference next door to the conference the Imams were at. Through the shared wall they could hear the "conference on improving islamic/american relations" praying as loudly "as humanly possible" and was followed by a speaker "who expressed in rather . . . forceful terms the depth of Muslim oppression in America."
Lastly, Omar Shahin, one of the Imams has connections to 9/11 and a terrorist supporting organization. But YOU think they're innocent. Inbred.
Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 04:25 PM
More info: http://clarityandresolve.com/archives/2006/12/six_imam_perp_w_1.php
A passenger on that flight - I'll call her "Pauline" - has inadvertently publicized some facts via a much-forwarded e-mail; she gave me more details in an interview this week. The airport police report confirms some of her claims and holds more revelations of its own. And U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader also confirmed much of Pauline's account.
One detail that's escaped most reports is that other Muslim passengers were left undisturbed and later joined in a round of applause for the U.S. Airways crew.
"It wasn't that they were Muslim," says Pauline. "It was all of the suspicious things they did." Sitting by Minneapolis-St. Paul's Airport Gate C9, she noticed one imam immediately. "He was pacing nervously, talking in Arabic," she said. ...
Contrary to press accounts that a single note from a passenger triggered the imams' removal, Captain John Howard Wood was weighing multiple factors.
An Arabic speaker was seated near two of the imams in the plane's tail. That passenger pulled a flight attendant aside and, in a whisper, translated what the men were saying: invoking "bin Laden" and condemning America for "killing Saddam," according to police reports.
An imam seated in first class asked for a seat-belt extender - the extra strap that obese people use because the standard belt is too short. According to both an on-duty and a deadheading flight attendant, he looked too thin to need one.
A seat-belt extender can easily be used as a weapon - just wrap one end around your fist, and swing the heavy metal buckle.
All six imams had boarded together, with the first-class passengers - even though only one of them had a first-class ticket. Three had one-way tickets. Between the six men, only one had checked a bag.
And, Pauline said, they spread out - just like the 9/11 hijackers. Two sat in first class, two in the middle and two back in the economy section, police reports show. Some, according to Rader, took seats not assigned to them.
Finally, a gate attendant told the captain she was suspicious of the imams, according to police reports.
So the captain made his decision to delay the flight based on many complaints, not one. He also consulted a federal air marshal, a U.S. Airways ground-security coordinator and the airline's security office in Phoenix. All thought the imams were acting suspiciously, Rader told me.
One more odd thing went unnoticed at the time: The men prayed both at the gate and on the plane. Yet observant Muslims pray only once at sundown, not twice.
Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 04:34 PM
*Crickets Chirping*
Posted by: Hard Right | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 05:53 PM
This is your fucking evidence? You are deranged.
This is only 'evidence' if you are predisposed to assume that every muslim is a terrorist.
If they had been a bunch of fat guys in cowboy hats praying to Jesus nobody would have considered anything they did suspicious.
The attendant didn't 'think' he was fat enough to need a seatbelt extension. Alrighty then.
I take open seats all the time that are not assigned to me. It isn't a crime and nobody cares as long as the seat is open. Have you ever been on an airplane?
I wonder how many witches you burned in your past lives?
Posted by: yyy | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 06:27 PM
(1) Imams make loud - excessively loud - prayers in the airport. Praying is fine, but is it necessary to draw attention to yourself in doing so?
...The Imams say they were not praying loudly. I don't see why they would be praying loudly, so I tend to think this was added on later as a justification and that they were just praying.
(2) Imams choose seating arrangements that mimic those of the 9-11 terrorists (zones of control -- some in front, some in the middle, and the rest in the rear) and request seat-belt extensions when no particular imam was so grossly overweight as to require them.
...That would be some cause to watch them I would agree, but that alone wouldn't be reason to take them off the plane since they had already been through security, this appears to be the only semi reasonable grounds for suspicion.
I'm sorry, I can't see a seatbelt extension serving as a useful weapon, this is more bullshit justification.
(3) Imams make numerous people and aircrew nervous: perhaps not the best way to inspire confidence in your activities aboard airliners.
....People were made nervous by the Imams because they have now been conditioned to hate arabs and muslims and suspect and assume they are all terrorists. Prejudice against them is not their fault.
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Please remember all the nutters here were convinced the arab college students with the cell phones were/are also terrorists. In fact, even when the FBI tells the nutters that there is no suspicion of terrorism the nutters still don't believe it.
Posted by: yyy | Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 06:37 PM
"....People were made nervous by the Imams because they have now been conditioned to hate arabs and muslims and suspect and assume they are all terrorists. Prejudice against them is not their fault."
Nah. We are made nervous by people acting suspiciously like terrorists. Of course, that they were of middle-eastern extraction didn't help either; but as there were plenty of other behaving Muslims and (presumably) middle-easterners in the airport, they did not get jacked up. Only these obnoxious imams.
Posted by: seekeronos | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 01:24 AM
Maybe they didn't look or act muslim enough to arouse suspicion.
You know, what we really need is some kind of easily recognizable symbol that we could insist that all muslims in the country wear so we would more easily be able to keep an eye on them. It wouldn't hurt them, just help us all keep the peace, something in a nice yellow maybe....
Posted by: yyy | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 07:58 AM
YYY, the only deranged person is you. The proof is overwhelming they were up to something. Rather than admit you are wrong you again try to claim I have said something I did not. We did not say all Muslims are terrorists-you did. These guys were clearly testing security and it's response. Maybe you should go over to a forum for children as thinking simply isn't something you're good at.
Posted by: Hard Right | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 09:48 AM
"...The Imams say they were not praying loudly. I don't see why they would be praying loudly, so I tend to think this was added on later as a justification and that they were just praying."
Despite many witnesses saying otherwise, you still believe the Imams. Typical. You also ignored how they prayed on the plane. So they prayed 2x. The second for no apparent reason.
"...That would be some cause to watch them I would agree, but that alone wouldn't be reason to take them off the plane since they had already been through security, this appears to be the only semi reasonable grounds for suspicion."
Way to minimize their actions ignore the other things they did since you can't refute them either. Sitting in a pattern like the attackers did on 9/11, means they should only be watched? By itself, MAYBE. Not to mention one of them left 1st class to go sit in coach and complete the seating pattern. Again you ignore/dismiss everything else to justify your stupidity. One more thing, the 9/11 hijackers went thru security too dumbass.
"....People were made nervous by the Imams because they have now been conditioned to hate arabs and muslims and suspect and assume they are all terrorists. Prejudice against them is not their fault."
One of the most retarded left wing comments yet. Your leftist mental illness is so pronounced you are inacpapble of seeing possible danger when it involves one of your alleged "victim class".
"The attendant didn't 'think' he was fat enough to need a seatbelt extension. Alrighty then."
They are for the morbidly obese. None of them are. I also trust the flight attendant's judgement over yours when it comes to seeing who needs one.
"I'm sorry, I can't see a seatbelt extension serving as a useful weapon, this is more bullshit justification"
I see. Because YOU don't understand how it could be a weapon, then that's proof it couldn't be used as a weapon? A stunning bit of logic there. (roll eyes)
"....People were made nervous by the Imams because they have now been conditioned to hate arabs and muslims and suspect and assume they are all terrorists. Prejudice against them is not their fault."
You accuse us of being bigots then make a statement like this:
"If they had been a bunch of fat guys in cowboy hats praying to Jesus nobody would have considered anything they did suspicious."
Can you say hypocrite?
Posted by: Hard Right | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 10:15 AM
*crickets chirp*
*tumbleweeds blow down deserted streets*
Posted by: bloodrage bob | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 04:07 PM
He knows when he's beat.
Posted by: Hard Right | Thursday, March 15, 2007 at 06:45 PM