Plame: Recklessly Abused!

When I first saw that Valerie Plame felt she was "recklessly abused," I wasn't sure if the media whore was talking about some DC john who copped her number from Vanity Fair and didn't leave a tip, or if she was referring to treatment at the hands of husband Joe Wilson. I mean, there's a guy with I want to be a woman so bad, I'm going to beat the crap out of one written all over him, if you ask me.

I wish the two lying dirt bags would get it over with and move to Sante Fe as they've claimed to be doing for the better part of a year. Maybe Plame has covert confused with under the covers, which I imagine she has been more than once, with whatever foreign politico came by on any alleged overseas trips. I mean, hey, if you're going to put out for Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid, it isn't like the woman can claim to have standards, or anything. And who can really blame her, what with having to go back home to that lying slug of a man.

I doubt DC will miss these latest two in a long line of political whores, there's always another street corner from which the next one or two are sure to wander up. Hopefully the next pair won't have fallen through the storm drain somewhere along the way, leaving them with the fetid stench of sewage, which literally wafts from the likes of Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.

Comments

[Rob Kaufman]

Or else what templar? I will post what I want, how I want, and when I want. If you do not like it I suggest you avoid reading my posts so that you do not continue to overexcite yourself and continue to get your keyboard sticky.

[seekeronos]

Yeah, Templar!!! Ya better watch out for ol' Robbykins, or else he'll say:

"Neener neener neener, you big doody-pants man!"

Because just about every thing from that guy is on a grade-school level. Too bad that a 39-year old man has barely the intelligence of a boy a third his age.

Unfortunately, Robby-poos was the sort of "special needs" student that was often the recipient of wedgies and other abuse from the jocks.

Heck, I bet even the Audio-Video geeks took out their frustrations on poor lil' Robby Kaufman -- as a matter of fact, they still do.

[Rob Kaufman]

Awwww seek feels left out. I am so sorry you feel neglected, don't worry I think you are just as big of loon as templar and ET are. Hopefully that will help you unbunch your panties.

[templar knight]

The word vile comes to mind when I see Rob's name, seek. He is a sorry excuse for a human being, the definitive liberal--loudmouthed, know-nothing, do-nothing, self-important piece of scum. And did I say he has proven himself to be a hypocrite of the worst kind? Oh, well, it takes all kinds, I suppose, but Robbie almost makes me believe in late term abortion.

[templar knight]

What's really funny, pseudo, is watching the jealousy of you libs. You just can't stand it that Dan gets all the publicity and has a gig on Reliable Sources, and you have nothing. Nothing.

[scarshapedstar]

"The word vile comes to mind when I see Rob's name, seek. He is a sorry excuse for a human being, the definitive liberal--loudmouthed, know-nothing, do-nothing, self-important piece of scum. And did I say he has proven himself to be a hypocrite of the worst kind? Oh, well, it takes all kinds, I suppose, but Robbie almost makes me believe in late term abortion."

You forgot the part about "Plus he does teh DRUGS! OMG LOOOOOL"

I mean, assuming you really want to flesh out that "17 year old Mormon that everybody loathes" persona.

[hobo]

Comment #1: Dan, you're brilliant!! I believe this is about the hottest line you've tossed out since I began 'tuning in' to you. A bit rough on Valerie, though; after all, she's really a fine looking babe. Who cares if she shared her carnal gift with others; I only sorry I wasn't in line.

Comment #2: I would give up food, water and sex for a week if the same group of responders on this blog would collectively cover the expectation of "Scooter" Libby being pardoned by the Bushwhacker before the end of his term as Pres. While surfing the Net last night, I ran across a few sites discussing the probability of thus and such happening; among things debated was when? Too early, too much fallout while he is in office. Right up to the end of term, more bad press and public outcry and his Pop was against pardons. Oh, well.

Thanks for your very heated coverage. I kept hoping Phoenix would have weighed in; maybe later.

[Purple Avenger]

"The Vanity Fair article didn't have anything to do with her being covert."

Yea, it was part of a clever "hide in plain sight" strategy detailed in a little pamphlet that came with her secret decoder ring.

[yyy]

Forgive my ignorance, but wasn't the Vanity Fair article long AFTER her name appeared in Novak's column and long after the whispering campaign was over?

[Zifnab]

http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20070316104030-43341.pdf

"During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was under cover.

Her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.

At the time of the publication of Robert Novak’s column on July 14,2003, Ms. Wilson’s CIA employment status was covert.

This was classified information.

Ms. Wilson served in senior management positions at the CIA, in which she oversaw the work of other CIA employees, and she attained the level of GS-14, step 6 under the federal pay scale.

Ms. Wilson worked on some of the most sensitive and highly secretive matters handled by the CIA.

Ms. Wilson served at various times overseas for the CIA.

Without discussing the specifics of Ms. W’ilson’s classified work, it is accurate to say that she worked on the prevention of the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against the United States.

In her various positions at the CIA, Ms. Wilson faced significant risks to her personal safety and her life.

She took on serious risks on behalf of her country.

Ms. Wilson’s work in many situations had consequences for the security of her colleagues, and maintaining her cover was critical to protecting the safety of both colleagues and others."

Sign it. Stamp it. Lick it. This bitch is offical.

[yyy]

It's only a matter of time before the nutters decide that the general is a liberal traitor who somehow rose through the ranks despite his hatred of America.

Otherwise, they would have to admit that outing Plame was beneath contempt and possibly illegal as well.

[Buzzy]

Libby was convicted of perjury (who am I to argue with a jury) so he pays the price. I would suggest he get the same sentence Bill Clinton got for his perjury and obstruction on the Monica Lewinsky case though.

Armitage outed a CIA employee, covert or not, he needs to be charged and tried for that.

However maybe we should look into the matter that Valarie Plame's fingerprints are all over the CIA intelligence that showed Saddam having WMDs and ties to al Qaeda. I find that very disturbing.

[Cruel Jest]

Well, Dan, now that you've forever defined yourself as a vulgar buffoon, is there anything you'd like to say about the hearing today?

[Zifnab]

"However maybe we should look into the matter that Valarie Plame's fingerprints are all over the CIA intelligence that showed Saddam having WMDs and ties to al Qaeda. I find that very disturbing."

Hahahahahahahahaha! Oh man, that's freak'n great. Yeah, I totally hope the right-wing picks that ball up and runs with it. Oh. *wipes a tear* Yeah, that would be awesome. You're right. We totally need more investigation on that whole thing.

[Dan Riehl]

is there anything you'd like to say

Nah. The whole Plame nonsense never did catch my interest. I'm content to just sit back and enjoy the show. This thread has been a flippin hoot!

[Cruel Jest]

Don't you mean "...a fucking hoot?" Or would that be uncivil?

[Dan Riehl]

very much so. Please try and keep this place appropriate. I know I do.

[Ali]

Dan, didn't Ashcroft recuse himself because of all the caterwauling that the WH wouldn't investigate fairly?

Isn't that how the Schumer-Comey deal come about?

[Ali]

re: WH not investigating.

Dan, didn't Ashcroft recuse himself because of all the caterwauling that the WH wouldn't investigate fairly?

Isn't that how the Schumer-Comey deal come about?

Shoot, do you have the emails from Schumer rebuttal re: fired USA's? It's in those.

[Dan Riehl]

I know Ashcroft recused himself when the investigation pointed toward the White House - read that today. But that's all I've seen. It really never did catch my interest, as I said. This isn't a part of politics I see as valuable and it is just politics and not much more.

[Cruel Jest]

Appropriate? So I can say the cow you have sex with is a two-dollar whore, but I can't say f*ck? You don't see the irony there? Your post is as offensive as any string of expletives. Whether you realize that or not it is equally damning.

[Dan Riehl]

You need to remove "jest" from your name, maybe go for cruel moron, instead.

[yyy]

The rightie's don't like FUCK because they don't like sex....but since they don't like sex [it's dirty and sinful] they like to throw around epithets like 'whore' and 'slut' when describing 'bad' women like Valerie Plame.

It's the same reason they are obsessed with homosexuals and love the word faggot.

But you know, real curse words are unseemly and impolite. Much better to call a career CIA agent a whore, slut and prostitute.

Now that's journalism.

[Cruel Jest]

Oooo, snap! You really don't get it do you?
OK. Lemme try this:

You should be called Dan UN-Real! LOLOL111!1

There. See if you can work with that.

[Hard Right]

Why don't you lefties comment on this blatant attempt influence an ivestigation? I mean, this IS YOUR definition of influence.

January 22, 2004
The Honorable James Comey
United States Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530

Dear Deputy Attorney General Comey:

I write to request an update on the investigation into allegations that senior administration officials committed a federal felony by leaking the identity of a covert CIA operative.

The investigation has been underway for four months now and we have received no meaningful reports regarding the progress you are making. I realize there are limitations on information that can be disclosed regarding an ongoing criminal investigation, but, as we have discussed, a prosecutor has the responsibility to assure public confidence in criminal investigations, especially those of such a serious nature.

In the wake of recent calls by former intelligence operatives for a Congressional investigation, I write to ask that you publicly answer several questions regarding the progress you are making:

Has a grand jury been empaneled in this case? Have members of the White House staff signed waivers, permitting journalists to discuss confidential communications? If so, what percent of the White House staff has signed such waivers? Has anyone who has been asked to sign such a waiver refused to do so?

Have journalists been interviewed as part of the investigation? Has any journalist who has been released from confidentiality (assuming any has), refused to answer questions regarding previously confidential communications?

Were White House staffers ordered as a condition of employment to submit to interviews? Has anyone asked for or been offered immunity? If so, how many individuals fit in each category and what types of immunity have been asked for and offered to each?

What other information can you provide us regarding the progress you are making with this investigation?

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,
********************
Charles E. Schumer *
********************
United States Senator

[yyy]

Looks like a pretty straightforward series of questions.

It is certainly a lot more above board, than say Pete Domenici calling up the US attorney to ask whether voter fraud indictments would be handed down before the elections, doncha think?

[Hard Right]

According to you lefties that's attempting to influence the investigation. That's what the Rep did.

BTW, you do know that today Plame admitted the Intelligence Identities Protection Act didn't apply to her? Do you knowwhat that means?

[yyy]

I know it is wrong and despicable to publicly disclose the identity of an undercover CIA agent in order to discredit her husband because he wrote something that was politically inconvenient.

Just like I know it is wrong to beat a man to death, turn his kneecaps to liquid, waterboard him or sexually assault him, whether you 'think' he's a terrorist or not and whether or not you choose to call these actions 'interrogation techniques' or torture.

In other words, I know the difference between right and wrong without seeking advice of my lawyer.

[Thomas]

Danny boy, why don't ya take a break from flogging Ms. Plame with your figurative (which is probably about accurate) penis long enough to start one of your brain cells? The other two are on break, I think.

Not only are you willfully ignorant, but you're incredibly crude and misogynistic. Way to elevate the discussion!

I see a "Make a Donation" button up there. Do you take brain cells? Common sense, perhaps? Reading comprehension? Civility? Personality? You seem to be in dire need of all these.

Ass hat.

[Hard Right]

You compare waterboarding to beating someone to death, shattering their kneecaps, or sexually assaulting someone? You are loony.
You aren't accusing the soldiers at Gitmo of doing those things, are you?

BTW, waterboarding him caused him to give up info that saved lives. And the lawyers are thanks to people like you.

[Hard Right]

Ass hat.

Yes you are, S--t for Brains. So how dare he trash a couple of liars and traitors? And you have the stupidity to accuse him of lacking brain cells.

[yyy]

Tell me again how is Valerie Plame a traitor?

Oh wait, you can't, she isn't. She's the victim here and that is why you all hate her so much.

[yyy]

PS

It's a know fact that soldiers did beat to death an Afgan general and also beat to death an innocent Afgan civilian after turning his knee caps into liquid. No argument, the army admitted it, even that the man was innocent. As far as sexual assault, well that's a given, too.

Waterboarding is tantamount to torture, it is abusive and against American and international law. The fact that you defend it makes you a greater enemy of American democracy than Bin Laden could hope to be. But, as a mindless, ragefilled bigot, you couldn't hope to understand that fact.

[dippy the dreamer]

wow, you are truly a work of art. it's amazing the hate one can bottle in the course of a lifetime. i need a shower.

[Kilo]

Covert: the truth is she was not covert and the prosecutor knew it. This is nothing more that a communist show trial.
Posted by: tk | Friday, March 16, 2007 at 01:19 PM

You must certainly believe it was some kind of deceptive trial if you think the prosecutor knew she wasn't covert yet presented a case to the contrary.

Still no word on why the CIA and statute in question both state she and everyone else in her position were covert. That statute being the American Intelligence Services Hate Robert Novak Act. Clearly biased as it is.

[templar knight]

I'm curious to know how one can turn knee caps into liquid. With acid? Or a drill? Or how? Call me a mindless, rage-filled bigot if you will, but I've never heard of such a thing.

Oh, and yyy, get a grip, man. You would be completely shocked, or maybe not, at the atrocities committed by American soldiers in WWII, the good war for the libs. Rapes, murders, and looting all happened as Allied troops entered Germany. This is part of war, always has been, always will be. There are always bad apples who will take advantage of a situation. The difference is whether people are punished for doing these things when caught.

[Hard Right]

Let's see...Plame and Wilson came to a conclusion about something before having the facts out of political bias. She conspires with/sends her husband to go and "debunk" the claim. The claim turns out to be true, but Wilson goes public and lies in order to hurt the administration. Then after being outed by Armitage they try to get Bush, Rove, and Cheney thrown out of office or charged with a crime-knowing all along no crime had been committed by those men. Why? Because they hate the admin. So lying with intent to destroy the leadership of America and harm the WOT isn't treason? Suuuuuure it isn't.

And those things happened at Gitmo? Nope. Smearing the entire military with the actions of a few is the type of sleaze I expect from someone like you. Also, don't try imply I somehow approve of such behavior. I do approve of waterboarding, though. Especially in his case. Vioaltion of American law? Against Americans perhaps-not terrorists. As for international, don't give me the Geneva convention crap. It doesn't apply to them.

Your defense of terrorists and desire to bestow the Constitutional rights of American citizens upon them shows that the true enemy are those like you. In order to keep feeling good about yourselves you are willing to help the terrorists destroy America.

Hateful? Rage filled? Lol. Take a look in the mirror you headcase.

[Hard Right]

Plame HERSELF admitted she was not covered by the act. That means she WAS NOT covert. Classified, yes. Covert, no.

[Oregonian]

HR, have you ever offered even one link to back up the nonsense you post on this site? You obviously don't have even the slightest idea of what you're talking about, but you babble on with these incoherent streams of gibberish as if simply saying things will somehow make them true. Dan Riehl must be proud.

For anyone who actually wants to know the truth about the Valerie Plame case, I'd recommend the front page story from this morning's Washington Post:

Valerie Plame, the Spy Who's Ready to Speak for Herself
Years of Silence Will End Today With Capitol Hill Testimony

By Richard Leiby and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, March 16, 2007; Page A01

"People close to Plame say her primary goal in testifying before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is to knock down persistent claims that she did not serve undercover. 'She is so tired of hearing that,' her mother, Diane Plame, said in an interview earlier this week."

"In the years since her outing, the debate over Plame's CIA status has often devolved into hairsplitting feuds over nomenclature and legalisms, arguments awash in partisan bile."

***

"Former CIA officers, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject, provided a broad outline of Plame's career. They said she spent most of her time as one of the elite spies who travel overseas under 'non-official cover' and are known as NOCs within the agency. Most CIA case officers living or traveling overseas have 'official cover' by working at U.S. embassies as State Department or other government agency officials -- and thus have the protection of diplomatic immunity and the chance for rescue by the U.S. government."

"But NOCs, posing as businesspeople, scientists or others, rely on a carefully crafted false identity. If detected or arrested by a foreign government, they're on their own."

"In the CIA's eyes, the revelation of Plame's name in any context, whether she was stationed here or abroad, gave away a national security secret that could have dangerous repercussions."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/15/AR2007031502448.html

[Kilo]

Plame HERSELF admitted she was not covered by the act. That means she WAS NOT covert. Classified, yes. Covert, no.
Posted by: Hard Right | Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 01:20 AM

She must have buried that somewhere among the 48 time she states she was a covert agent in the hearing...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Plame_hearing_transcript_0316.html

She also replied that she was not a lawyer when it came to determining her covert status. So perhaps her word is not the final determining factor in whether her status was "covert".

So let's leave that determination to the definition of covert as per the law in question, the established facts of the case, a lawyer and a judge....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/

....then invent your own version of events if they don't suit you also.

[Cindi]

Wow Dan, you sure have them hopping.
Seems evident that you have all the fags posting.

Question remains, if someone ousted anyone, why no charges? This is a huge tax payer burden.

[Cindi]

She also replied that she was not a lawyer when it came to determining her covert status.
Posted by: Kilo | Saturday, March 17, 2007 at 02:34 AM

Ahhhh, the blind leading the blind?

[seekeronos]

"For anyone who actually wants to know the truth about the Valerie Plame case, I'd recommend the front page story from this morning's Washington Post..."

Ah yes. The WaPo. A veritable bastion of conservative thought, right up there with the "New Republic" and "The Sword of the Lord".

Not for nuttin'... but if I wanted to read propaganda about global warmifyin' and this Plame Blame Game... I don't think the WaPo or the NY Times would be my first choices.

[ras]

Had a 36-point buck in mah crosshairs I did. One for the ages. But it done got away. Brought back this here Libby chipmunk instead. Thassit, pour some a that Sour Grape Sauce all over it. Mmmmm, that's some good eatin.

[templar knight]

ras,

ROTFLMAO. One of the best comments ever!

[Zifnab]

"Ah yes. The WaPo. A veritable bastion of conservative thought, right up there with the "New Republic" and "The Sword of the Lord"."

Shorter: "Lalala! Rush Limbaugh didn't say it! Lalala!"
The Washington Post, General Hayden, the Congressional Records... all have a well-known liberal bias. *sigh* This is why you lose a smidge of credibility.

[charles]

question for all you geniuses who claim to know the truth:

exactly what crime has been commited here?

we have investigations and commitees and subpoenas transcripts stories and broadcasts

what's the crime? who's been charged? (aside from libby of course who was charged with a process crime of perjury)

[Zifnab]

"exactly what crime has been commited here?"

I believe it was obstruction of justice and perjury under oath during an investigation of the outing of a CIA agent, which is illegal under Executive Order 12958.

Libby has been charged. Currently, investigation is being done to determine if anyone else was complicit in the crime.

[Chris Vosburg]

Dan Riehl writes: "The whole Plame nonsense never did catch my interest. I'm content to just sit back and enjoy the show."

That's rich coming from a guy who has been reduced to cattily calling her a prostitute, and her husband a wife-beating transexual wannabe.

No, you're not at all interested in this nonsense, and not at all interested in diverting attention from the many things you've previously said about it in the past that if recalled would make it clear that you're a fool of the first order.

You're not the first guy who'd rather be thought an asshole than a fool. That's why you wrote what you did above, and everybody knows it.