Plame: Recklessly Abused!

When I first saw that Valerie Plame felt she was "recklessly abused," I wasn't sure if the media whore was talking about some DC john who copped her number from Vanity Fair and didn't leave a tip, or if she was referring to treatment at the hands of husband Joe Wilson. I mean, there's a guy with I want to be a woman so bad, I'm going to beat the crap out of one written all over him, if you ask me.

I wish the two lying dirt bags would get it over with and move to Sante Fe as they've claimed to be doing for the better part of a year. Maybe Plame has covert confused with under the covers, which I imagine she has been more than once, with whatever foreign politico came by on any alleged overseas trips. I mean, hey, if you're going to put out for Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid, it isn't like the woman can claim to have standards, or anything. And who can really blame her, what with having to go back home to that lying slug of a man.

I doubt DC will miss these latest two in a long line of political whores, there's always another street corner from which the next one or two are sure to wander up. Hopefully the next pair won't have fallen through the storm drain somewhere along the way, leaving them with the fetid stench of sewage, which literally wafts from the likes of Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.

Comments

[vetter]

"I mean, there's a guy with I want to be a woman so bad, I'm going to beat the crap out of one written all over him, if you ask me."

100% GENIUS! No better line has been written on the Plame/Wilson BS to date...

[yyy]

Danny must be taking lessons from Coulter.

Nothing like calling a career CIA agent a whore, both a figurative 'media' whore and a literal whore.

Nice.

PS...If the cons hadn't blown her cover nobody would have ever heard of her, so I guess the blame lies with Rove and Cheney, now doesn't it.

[Fred Beloit]

Wow, a copy of that linked WaPo article needs to be placed in a dictionary next to the entry "puff piece".

[Fred Beloit]

yyy, "...the blame lies with Rove and Cheney..." Seriously, blame for what?

[Zifnab]

"Wow, a copy of that linked WaPo article needs to be placed in a dictionary next to the entry 'puff piece'."

Yeah, why can't they cover the hiccup girl like respectible journalists?

[tk]

I couldn't believe people at that hearing. Covert: the truth is she was not covert and the prosecutor knew it. This is nothing more that a communist show trial.

[Fred Beloit]

That's because Bush is like Stalin and the US is a dictatorship. Just ask Zifnab, he'll tell you.

[daveinboca]

What a travesty! Plame girl is a victim-slut who was widely known by just about every foreign govt to be covert EVEN WHILE SHE WAS COVERT MORE THAN FIVE YEARS BEFORE THE EASY LAY WAS OUTTED!!!

Victoria Toensing, who has been relentlessly debunking this fraud and her husband has so much on this that I refer you to Wikipedia for the details.

Of course, the whoremonger lefties exalt one of their own stable of hussies---off to Santa Fe and begone! The drive-by media are drooling at this spectacle---a show trial of Stalinist proportions.

She'll be hosting SNL if her and hubby's career moves work out!!!

[Rob Kaufman]

Congrats tk, I didn't think anyone could post a more moronic comment in this thread than Dan's original one but you proved me wrong. I do think you might want to get your money back for that law degree you got from a Cracker Jack box though, it is obviously defective.

[Rob Kaufman]

Wow, I new whiner, I mean winner. daveinboca takes the most moronic comment title from tk. Your mom must be so proud.

[yyy]

Victim-slut?

The right wing nutter's natural misogyny is showing.

Any self respecting non slut would be at home, schooling her many children in the beauty of intelligent design, the evils of contraception and Islam.

[Zifnab]

"Covert: the truth is she was not covert and the prosecutor knew it. This is nothing more that a communist show trial."

She said it under oath. Maybe you can get her for perjury.

"Victim-slut?"

He's only saying that because if he called her a "faggot", he'd have to go into rehab.

[Cindi]

Wow! This is better than a bar fight.

I LOVE YOU DAN :))

[not the senator]

Waxman's opening statement:

"I have been advised by the CIA, that even now after all that has happened, I cannot disclose the full nature, scope and character of Ms. Wilson’s service to our nation without causing serious damage to our national security interests. But General Hayden and the CIA have cleared these following comments for these hearings. During her employment at the CIA, Ms. Wilson was undercover. Her employment status at the CIA was classified information, prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958. At the time of the publication of Robert Novak’s column on July 14, 2003, Ms. Wilson’s CIA employment status was covert. This was classified information."

Do you believe Bush appointee, CIA Director Gen. Hayden or do you believe Dan Riehl? Me? I'll go with the official CIA statement and I guess that means there was an underlying crime, since she was covert at the time according to this statement.

Please ignore the last two years of Republican talking points. They are no longer operative.

[yyy]

Didn't Bush Sr, the former president say that outing any CIA person was tantamount to treason? I don't remember him differentiating an undercover operative who is or is not protected legally...

Seems to me the former President Bush thought it was bad form and treason to OUT ANY COVERT CIA OPERATIVE.

But, yeah, that isn't important now, the thing is to call her a slut and a whore.

[Dan Riehl]

Unfortunately for you leftards, the CIA outted her themselves five or more years ago - which is why she was put into a desk job. Her name was on a document which wound up in the public domain, courtesy of the CIA. Amazing that the left wants to defend the CIA - the organization that didn't have good intel on Iraq and hasn't gotten any better, given what theyt know of Iran. Oh and how about that bin laden unit? Wow, they certainly did their job.

[Rob Kaufman]

Thank you again Dan, you never fail to amuse me. I guess that must be why I continue to return to this site, it can't be for the intellectual content. Dan Riehl, the court jester of the internet.

[not the senator]

Hate to get proven wrong again, huh Dan?

Admit it. Unless you're saying the CIA Director is lying, she was covert and there's no getting around it.

[yyy]

The CIA intel on Iraq was fine until Wolfowitz and his neocon cabal got ahold of it....

[Hank]

Denial is more than a river. It's amazing hearing your righties continue to justify all of the
lawbreakeing by Bush and Company. Plame was COVERT and the Bush whitehouse did nothing to internally investigate this leak.

You guys continue to be wrong about everything and you continue to grasp at straws? How far will you go in your blind loyalty to a person? Are you that frightened on terrorist that you ignore our constitution and the ideals that have made America great?

[yyy]

The thing that is best about the right wing hypocrites, is well, their hypocritical nature.

They've trashed how many bonafide war heroes...Murtha, Kerry, McCain and now they're adding a career CIA operative to their list.

What it shows is that the cons don't care about patriotism, 'the troops', the military or the security of this country.

What they really care about is being in power and being able to bully, smear, attack, imprison, torture, deport anyone who doesn't tow their line of insane bullshit.

[Hard Right]

She was outed by Armitage-NOT LIBBY or ROVE or Cheney you retards. She also was not a COVERT agent. Classified and COVERT are NOT THE SAME THING.

As for the CIA info, it was shown to be inaccurate and that there was no "cherry picking". So YYY, lay off the acid and conspiracy theories won't seem to plausible to you.

[yyy]

Really, where was it shown there was no cherry picking?

The last report I read said that while Wolfowitz's DOD cabal wasn't illegal that it's actions WERE INAPPROPRIATE.

Any retard who reads any background on the sources of the 'intelligence' can only come away with one conclusion: it was cherry picked.

It's a fact that Rove also mentioned her being a CIA agent to reporters.

She was an undercover agent, however you want to classify it. It was WRONG TO OUT HER. The fact that you fucktards can't admit it is exactly why you have lost your grip on the American public. You are too divorced from reality, facts and anything approaching mainstream morality, except of course when it comes to condeming the sluts and the gays.

[Hard Right]

Murtha and Kerry, "bonafied war heroes"? Could you possibly be more full of it? You mean an incompetent career CIA agent, jackass. It has been proven she came to a conclusion first due to her leftist political bias. Then she sent her equally leftist hubby to try and prove that conclusion. When he was proven wrong he came back and LIED about it publicly.

As for supporting the troops you've shown you don't care about them. So stop projecting your illness onto us.

[Rob Kaufman]

Limp Wrong wrong yet again. I guess you rabid right wing loons would believe anything but it was not shown that the intelligence was not cherry picked. But I would never tell you not to believe in fairy tales, afterall what else do you have to believe in?

[Hank]

Quote from the hearing today in the House:

Rep Cummings: On Wednesday night, I know that Mr. Waxman, our chair, and Congressman Reyes, the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, spoke personally with General Hayden, the head of the CIA. And Mr. Waxman told me that Gen. Hayden said clearly and directly, “Ms. Wilson was covert.”

So are you now going to say General Hayden is a liar?

Why don't you guys admit it? A Covert Agent was outed for political reasons during a time of war. Why you still blindly support Bush is beyond reason.

[yyy]

Huh?

Are you now contending that Valerie Plame sent her husband to Niger to DISPROVE the yellow cake uranium story because of her leftist bias? Oh brother.

You cannot get around the REALITY that the Bush Administration said that Saddam Hussein tried to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger, they cited FORGED DOCUMENTS and they ignored intelligence from European nations who told them it DID NOT HAPPEN.

That makes Team Bush either woefully incompetant or out and out liars who continued to state something as a fact they knew was a lie or were too stupid to understand their own intelligence reports or too busy giving press conferences to read them.

[Hard Right]

Then that means you aren't even as smart as a retard YYY. They have been exonerated repeatedly on the "cherry picking" accusation dumbass. Inappropriate? Here's what was actually said: "It stated that the office produced intelligence assessments "inconsistent" with the U.S. intelligence community consensus, calling those actions "inappropriate" because the assessments purported to be "intelligence products" but were far more conclusive than the consensus view."
In other words it was inappropriate to dare and question on their own the intelligence. You know, the same CIA that missed Saddam's build up to invade Kuwait and the ones who gave the coordinates of the Chinese embassy for the cruise missile. Gee, wonder why they didn't trust them.

BTW, ROVE DID NOT "OUT" HER! ARMITAGE-one of your political soulmates did. THAT is a FACT-PERIOD.

[yyy]

A Covert Agent was outed for political reasons during a time of war.
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They will never admit it. Admitting that would mean they would have to call out those who outed her as unpatriotic and treasonous. Since the people who outed Plame are the architects and chief cheerleaders for the war and for the rabid muslim hate these nutters feed on, they simply can't do it.

I have to say though Dan calling her a whore and insinuating she worked as a prostitute in Washington is a little much even for the nutters.

[Dan Riehl]

And Mr. Waxman told me that Gen. Hayden

Fine, so lets have Hayden in under oath. All I see there is heresay.

[yyy]

"It stated that the office produced intelligence assessments "inconsistent" with the U.S. intelligence community consensus, calling those actions "inappropriate" because the assessments purported to be "intelligence products" but were far more conclusive than the consensus view."
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Sounds worse than cherry picking to me. Sounds like the intelligence was inappropriately massaged into conclusions that weren't supported by the facts.

[Doug]

"As for supporting the troops you've shown you don't care about them."

. . . From the party that brought you the Walter Reed scandal, the repeated sliming of Max Cleland, and oh yeah, the "We only need to send 150,000 troops and we don't even have to give them all body armor" strategy in Iraq. Face it, Hard Right, your "We Heart The Troops" posturing has about as much cred as Alberto Gonzales at this point.

[Rob Kaufman]

Limp Wrong wrong yet again. Does being so stupid hurt? You keep harping that it was Armitage that outed her, even if that is true it does not mean that others are not also guilty of outing her. Or are you too simpleminded to grasp that?

[Dan Riehl]

This is what Valerie Plame Wilson just said about her husband's trip: "I did not recommend him, I did not suggest him, I did not have the authority." An officer serving under her was upset to have received an inquiry from the vice president's office about yellowcake from Niger and evidently, while she was comforting that junior officer, some guy walked by her office and suggested her husband should go to Niger to check it out.

She said she was ambivalent about the idea because she didn't want to have to put her 2 year-old twins to bed by herself at night. Still, she and the guy who had just happened to walk by then went to her supervisor.

Supervisor: Well, when you go home this evening, would you ask your husband to come in.

Then her supervisor asked her to write an e-mail about the idea. She did so. That e-mail, she said, was the basis for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence claim that she had been responsible for sending her husband to Niger for the CIA.

In other words, she didn't recommend him or suggest him. Rather, it was a guy who walked by.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzFkNTA3ZDA4ZDcxNTQzNTc0N2FlN2RiYjk3NzhkMzA=

[Dan Riehl]

OK, it is potato chips for me - the news that Ms. Plame is so covert that not even she knows if she is legally covert is the stuff of late night comedy. This is from Mr. Apuzzo:Plame also repeatedly described herself as a covert operative, a term that has multiple meanings. Plame said she worked undercover and traveled abroad on secret missions for the CIA.

But the word "covert" also has a legal definition requiring recent foreign service and active efforts to keep someone's identity secret. Critics of Fitzgerald's investigation said Plame did not meet that definition for several reasons and said that's why nobody was charged with the leak.

...Plame said she wasn't a lawyer and didn't know what her legal status was but said it shouldn't have mattered to the officials who learned her identity.

http://instapundit.com/archives2/003367.php

[Oregonian]

You know that Danny's gone off his meds when he channels Ann Coulter this way.

"Support the troops" apparently hits the fan pretty hard when those troops start testifying to Congress.

[Hank]

"And Mr. Waxman told me that Gen. Hayden

Fine, so lets have Hayden in under oath. All I see there is heresay."

Plame testified that she was covert under oath. I guess we can look forward to her being
prosecuted for lying to congress?

[yyy]

Critics of Fitzgerald's investigation said Plame did not meet that definition for several reasons and said that's why nobody was charged with the leak.
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Critics claimed it, which means the legal definition is still up for debate, meaning it has never been categorically ruled that she DID not meet the criteria and that it was NOT a CRIME to leak her identity. The prosecutor chose not to try it.

Dan appears to think that either the Senator or the general are lying. Too funny. But he believes everything Karl Rove says.

[Zifnab]

"Fine, so lets have Hayden in under oath. All I see there is heresay."

I'm confident that Hayden or another CIA head will be in at one point to enlighten us on what is and is not heresay.

Even then, I'm sure this is all one big conspiracy of fools, right? There's just no way Plame was protected by Executive Order, because that would make the White House totally in the wrong by circulating and verifying Plame's identity as a covert agent. And it would make Rove, Miller, et al a pack of treasonous political hacks more interested in scoring points than maintaining the lives and safety of our men and women serving their country in the CIA.

Can't have that.

[gogglespisano]

Christ man, you truly are a simpering little prick. In one post you call the woman a prostitute/whore and attack the mans masculinity. Here is one for you. Did you have to remove your lovers dick from your mouth to type it?

What an asshole.

[Purple Avenger]

"she didn't recommend him or suggest him. Rather, it was a guy who walked by"

Son of Sam tried the "blame it on the dog" excuse too ;->

[Raging_Dave]

Richard Armitage has come forward and admitted that he was the person who "leaked" Plame's name. That has been confirmed by Robert Novak, who had been silent until Armitage came forward.

Until you unhinged loons accept that fact, any debate about Plame and Wilson is worthless. I'm not even going to begin debating you if you can't be bothered with facts, much less current events.

[yyy]

Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, the White House political adviser Karl Rove and the former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer are all known to have discussed Ms. Wilson’s C.I.A. employment with reporters in the summer of 2003.
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Them's the facts.

[ET]

The lefties are at it again...repeat the lie until it becomes the truth (but only in your simple minds).

YYY, explain to me how, if anyone in the Bush Administration committed a crime, fitzgerald's invstigation found no evidence of it after three years and millions of dollars. Here's a guess...THERE WAS NO CRIME. Classified, covert...doesn't matter. The investigation found that she was not protected at the time ARMITAGE gave her name to NOVAK and he printed it. You and your fearful leaders (Reid, Pelosi) blatantly lie when you attempt to make this a conspiracy. Joe Wilson is a fucking creep, yet you adopt him as your poster boy. Didn't your mother tell you people judge you by the company you keep?

[splashtc]

Why are these hearings public? Why is the world allowed to know private cia methods?

[yyy]

Prosecutors bring charges they think they can win.

If the entire power of the White House and the Department of Justice was going to argue that Valerie Plame was NOT legally protected [if they argued she was legally protected they would have been leading Rove away in handcuffs], knowing that going against the government's own view of this particular matter of law wasn't worth it....

A lot of crimes are never prosecuted, that doesn't mean they didn't occur, or maybe you think OJ was innocent, too?

[yyy]

PS

This is the same government that thinks O'Hare Airport is international territory and that it isn't torture unless you intended to cause organ failure or death.

[johna]

she did GREAT!!! she certainly shamed the critics! unlike mr bush, ms plame can actually form sentences and use correct grammar. LOVED Waxman's smackdown of v. toensing! there was actually applause for him and victoria started to cry! she's such an embarrassment to the human race.

[Raging_Dave]

Again, you simply cannot deal with the facts. You have to try to make up crap in order to shriek your horror at the Chimpy McHitlerburton administration. Armitage is the one who leaked Plame's name. Once people had her name, they THEN discussed it with Rove and others.

Sorry, but there's no "there" there. All your ranting and frothing at the mouth won't change that. And the fact that you can't even deal with simple reality is why I will never take you seriously.

[yyy]

I might be mistaken, but if Valerie Plame was a legally protected covert agent, then wouldn't it have been a crime to disclose it or discuss it with anyone who didn't have security clearance? Meaning that Armitage, Libby, Rove, Fleisher and whomever else disclosed to anyone or discussed the fact that she was a CIA agent would be guilty of a crime?