Iran Humiliates Hostages, All Of Britain

New video shown on Iranian TV. Hot Air has several additional links. Iran released a letter from the female hostage calling for withdrawal from Iraq. I wonder if Pelosi and Murtha helped them write it?

See the Hot Air link for bits from Steyn and others. This entire episode is thoroughly disgusting. I don't hear the UN or any factions of the International community screaming about the Geneva Convention now. Iran is degrading and manipulating British sailors and marines, one of them a woman, and the world is probably waiting for America to do anything provocative so they can somehow blame this all on us.

There's no backbone left in the West and Iran knows it.

Were you in essence the CIC of British forces, would you act? For the left, I'll just assume you'd kiss Iran's ass - so feel free to skip the question.

Comments

[benrand]

How can you accuse someone who would take a dump on the American flag as having the same politics as the sworn enemies of the US?

No one in their right mind would carry water for the Mullahs.

Well, except almost all liberals. They're pro-war, just for the other side.

[scarshapedstar]

Well, if Iran wants to provoke us, we'd better do exactly what they want. They'll never see that one coming! LET'S ROLL!

[souka]

blair was interviewed by local papers this am and said they will NOT confront Iran militarily. polls here show 74% of Brits do not believe that they should use military force against Iran. NO war coming from the Brits, thank god!!

[Dan Riehl]

thank god!!

I think your hijab's on too tight, souka.

[templar knight]

Yes, war is coming to the Brits just like it came when Chamberlain appeased Hitler. A policy of appeasement guarantees war, so war is coming Brits, whether you desire it or not.

I'm sure at least 74% of Brits opposed military action against the Nazis.

[Zifnab]

Remind me again, how many times did Reagan invade Iran before we got our hostages back in 1980? Oh, that's right, we didn't invade Iran. We just sold them weapons to perpetuate the ongoing crisis in the Middle East while raising money to give to the Contras in Nicaragua.

Then we invaded Grenada.

Why couldn't Bush have invaded a nice, peaceful country like Grenada?

[Hard Right]

Yeah Scar, doing nothing like they want is sooooo smart. (roll eyes)It would be nice if you leftards stopped fellating the enemy. However, you seem to WANT to live on your knees.

[Hard Right]

Hey Zif, who created the situation in Iran? Carter-a dhimmicrat. Doing nothing sure has worked well, hasn't it, jackass?

[Zifnab]

I think the Shaw of Iran created the situation in Iran. We propped him up since... Eisenhower maybe? Carter just bungled the hostage crisis. But Iran had been feeling the tremors of revolution since the Crimean War. I don't suppose the fall of the Ottoman Empire was Carter's fault as well?

[Hard Right]

BTW, where's the left's outrage at how the prisoners are being treated? Or do you leftist scum only care about enemy prisoners?

[Hard Right]

Uh Zif, Carter supported the overthrow of the Shaw. A lib ignorant of history? There's a shock.

[templar knight]

"Or do you leftist scum only care about enemy prisoners?"

That is an excellent question that deserves an honest answer. I doubt we'll get one.

[Zifnab]

"BTW, where's the left's outrage at how the prisoners are being treated? Or do you leftist scum only care about enemy prisoners?"

We'd be more vocal about innocent men and women being thrown into capitivity and tortured by a tyrannical government, but you gave us such hell over Gitmo...

[Gary Maxwell]

Wow the terrorists picked up in Afghanistan during active fighting are "innocent" ( not to mentioned being tortured !). The other posters are right, you are at least an idiot if not worse.

[Zifnab]

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/02/b2ac7a67-3023-4adc-bd10-5c9b051da76e.html
"The film, "The Road to Guantanamo," tells how three young Muslim men left their home town of Tipton, England in 2001 for a wedding in Afghanistan -- and ended up as terrorist suspects in the U.S. military detention center at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba."

[Gary Maxwell]

You know what every guy at Rikers is innocent too. Just ask them. So lets all chant "Free Mumia, Free Mummia, Free Mumia"

I suppose ( well actually I am sure ) you believe everything fatboy put into his crockumentary "Bowling for Columbine" too.

I wonder why this tripe never got distributed here? Not even enough moonbats would believe it perhaps?

seriously if that is all you got, save your breath as I hear that too much co2 is bad for the enviroment.

[Purple Avenger]

What would I do?

A few Tomahawks later, all the gasoline pumps in Iran would be drying up in about two weeks time.

[tally]

if i were cic, i'd bomb the shit out of them. that's not going to happen. so, i'd suggest to blair rather than talking this thing to death and playing the wuzz, just totally ignore it. deny them any attention and drive the price of oil down. it's only a few soldiers, right tony babe.

[Buzzy]

Iran released our hostages when they saw Reagan coming and knew he would bomb the crap out of them and maybe even invade them. Speak softly and carry a BIG stick was true when Teddy Roosevelt said it over 100 years ago and it is even truer today.

Unfortunately the left has a speak loudly and know we'll never use the stick attitude. The UK is even worse and the EU worse still. If they're going to be totally limp then they deserve what they get for it. At least while Bush is in power Iran knows that if they decide to take American hostages there will be dire consequences. Will the American people figure out that if the Democrats take power in 2008 we'll be no better than the UK? I sure hope so.

[benrand]

The water carriers for the Mullahs decide to show up...

[LOL]

so when are we invading? I need more bloodshed

wanna take a bet on how many of the winger bloggers have choosen to enlist over this event? or what percentage?

and what percentage is calling for the invasion?

hmm

[southdakotaboy]

There is a building rage on the right in this country and we are begining to feel truely threatend. There is going to be a tipping point and once it happens all hell is going to break loose. The libs are going to reap what they sowed and its not going to be pretty.
I mean when the shit hits the fan does the far left and dem leadership think they are going to have the support of the millitary? They might get some of the police but I really doubt it. The vast majority of the people on the right own guns and know how to use them. I know that when it comes down to safe gaurding my family or being respectful of some lefties "rights" well lets just say he won't have a snowballs chance in hell.

[Phoenix]

What would I do? Nothing. Let them stew and wonder. Carry on as if this had never happened. Let that go on for three days while we line up half the navy on that fine watery line and aim everything at them. On the third day tell them to let the prisoners go in the next 12 hours.

Make it their decision. Is the death of twelve people, or a person a day worth us blowing out their nuclear facilities? Make it their decision.

[Barry]

LOL, exactly what percentage of the military do you think are lefties? 1%, 10%, what you think?

[benrand]

LOL, those arguments are stale already man, like totally two years ago dude.

Don't you have any original shit? Come on man, I'm sure you do.

[LOL]

"I know that when it comes down to safe gaurding my family or being respectful of some lefties "rights" well lets just say he won't have a snowballs chance in hell."

Proof that conservatives are too childish to wield power responsibly

[LOL]

split in military was 18/73 kerry/bush in the last election. roughly

[Purple Avenger]

So that's why the dems are always so keen to try and get mil-ballots disqualified. Makes sense.

[Proud Brit.]

A Brit. with a long memory. Humiliation eh!!!! Remember Bay of Pigs - Iran Hostages (American) - Somalia, need I go on any further, stop insulting us mate because we are the only friends you have got and leave it to the politicians.

[Northerner]

split in military was 18/73 kerry/bush in the last election. roughly

Posted by: LOL | Friday, March 30, 2007 at 02:27 AM

Ah, so that means we won't have to feel sorry for the soldiers in Iraq, because it's their own fault! That might teach them to vote with their brain instead of their testosterone levels next time.

[scarshapedstar]

"Speak softly and carry a BIG stick was true when Teddy Roosevelt said it over 100 years ago and it is even truer today.

Unfortunately the left has a speak loudly and know we'll never use the stick attitude."

I prefer that that to the "run around with a big stick screaming and flailing about wildly" plan.

[Buzzy]

scarstar, you mean Hillary's plan, only attack one week out of the month and usually your friends?

Actually I know exactly what you mean and I agree. We should only say things once and softly. When someone doesn't listen and heed what we say they should meet the stick.

If you have to yell or say something several times people and other nations will think you weak and uncertain. Like refusing to wipe bin Laden from the face of the Earth after he first attacked us set us up for the largest loss of life from an enemy action ever suffered by the US on 9/11.

Even Teddy's liberal relative FDR understood the concept and when Japan attacked us on 12/7/1940 he made sure the axis powers of fascism met the stick.

Till lately I still harbored thoughts that the Democrats might take these threats against America seriously but their actions have shown they aren't cut from the same cloth as FDR or even JFK or LBJ.

They used military funding as an excuse to load up on $20billion in PORK making them not one bit better than the pitiful GOP congress they replaced.

[Dr. K]

Easy. Tell them if the prisoners are not released within 24 hours, the Tomahawks will destroy ALL of their nuclear sites.

And then DO it.

[Fred Beloit]

I'm all for military action of some kind. However, these prisoners are Brits and they've got the decision as far as I can see.

[Zifnab]

"Easy. Tell them if the prisoners are not released within 24 hours, the Tomahawks will destroy ALL of their nuclear sites."

That sounds like a great idea. We blow up all their nukes if they don't release the hostages. It gets better because Iran's program doesn't have any nukes, and won't for the next five years at the rate they've been going.

Also, remind me again how many war vets ran for office in '06? How many of them were Republicans?

You kids are so full of crap, it's amazing.

[southdakotaboy]

We need to tell the EU that if they don't get on the bad wagon with us and put some very strict sanction is place we will close the Persian Gulf to all ships not esscourtrd by American or British ships. We should also anounce that any Iranian ship leaving Iranian territorial waters will be fired upon and sunk.
Now the Iranians first reaction (beinng the cowards they are) will be to load that boat with civilians. We need to sink it. No questions asked and no comments after the fact. Just sink it and keep sinking them.
I'm sure all the bleeding hearts out there will be flipping out right now, but you know what play time needs to be over with these people. When we were fighting the Nazis and the Japanese we killed lots of innocent civilians and the world ended up a better place. If we don't treat these Mullahs the same way its only going to get worse down the road. As in nuke worse, then the death toll instead of being in the thousands will be in the millions. And instead of little environmental impact we will be dealing with a world wide problem because fallout drifts with the wind.

[benrand]

THe liberal solution...wait it out, maybe even as long as 444 days, do some protestin', shit on the US flag...

Then the adults will come along and clean up the mess.

[Zifnab]

Yes. I think dropping a nuke because of a British hostage crisis is a perfectly reasonable response.

Thank GOD you people weren't trying to run the show back in the 50s. Earth would be a smoldering hill of nuclear potholes after Chruschev insulted the President's haircut. Do conservatives ever think of a plan that doesn't involve pressing the nuclear button?

At the bare least, maybe we could take a page from the Israelis on this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe

[Fred Beloit]

Now, Zif, you don't really equate insulting a country's leader's haircut compares with illegally capturing 15 members of a country's military now do you?

[Zifnab]

I'll stop comparing haircuts to hostage situations when you stop talking about hostage situations precipitating thermo-nuclear holocaust.

[wjo]

Zifnab:

The entire situation shows how utterly toothless and feckless international institutions are when dealing with an international brigand. The kidnapping of uniformed military personnel in international waters (while, I might add, under the flag of the saintly United Nations) is an act of war. Britain is fully within her rights to pursue whichever course she wishes, including military retaliation.

I ask you, what act of provocation is ever unacceptable to you?

[Zifnab]

And military retaliation will - as likely as not - get the hostages killed. The ideal end result of a hostage crisis is the return of the hostages unharmed. Dropping bombs on Iran will not bring us any closer to that resolution. It will increase the likelyhood of a full-scale military conflict.

If you were holding hostages and someone killed five of your best friends with a smartbomb, would you then release the hostages or just shoot them out of spite? Now consider your reaction again, assuming you're a bunch of crazy mullahs with something to prove.

The provocation isn't the issue. Returning the sailors from harm is the issue. Try not to lose sight of that in your desire to kill brown people.

[benrand]

AH, the old "brown people" straw man.

Say, do you suppose the Mullahs have a desire to kill white people?

Just wonderin'.

[nowinger]

The wingers always want to resort to wars, invasions, carpet bombing and nukes because they are unable to think beyond the moment of satisfaction they would feel getting even with the enemy to the economic and political costs. They can't comprehend that nuking Iran might unleash a level of terrorism far beyond 9/11, grind oil production, preciptate a global economic collapse or even unite the arab nations against the west and goade them into acquiring their own nuclear weapons. Diplomacy, even diplomatic brinkmanship, which is the game Iran is playing with the West is too sophisticated a concept for them. All they are in truth is another version of the lynch mob...mindless fury demanding vengeance and violence on the target of the moment.

[Raging_Dave]

Ah yes, kidnapping the members of Britain's armed services is "diplomatic brinkmanship" to the left. wjo, I think you just got your answer.

[Phoenix]

Sanctions, embargo, cut off shipments to Iran: Ahmadinejad and his happy mullahs will have two major enemies to deal with: The world that does not want them to have any position of power in the ME - even if no one is saying that out loud in the Arab world; and their own people.

Way to go, Ahmadinejad and your Revolutionary Forces. <--- Perfect name, eh?

Iran made a very foolish calculation with this 'adventure' at sea. Smart bombs could take out their nuke facilities just for a hint of what a bad mistake they made. Does anyone think they will actually KILL those hostages? The question is, what are they willing to risk?

[wjo]

Zifnab:

Extreme bad faith in framing your response. I did not advocate a military response, but only said it is justified by international law.

Allow me to deconstruct your paradigm: those on the "right" are bloodthirsty warmongers bent on imposing some undefined imperial hegemony on this region which will enrich them and their racist colleagues. In contrast, the "left" are pacific, morally enlightened persons who have moved beyond the simplisic "good/evil" worldview and have more evolved senses of morality where "war" as a concept represents only a failure of communication or a justified reaction by the "other" to the dominant and illegitimate hegemons of the world. In effect, we in the West always have it coming to us for our "arrogance" and "exploitation". Accordingly, no outrage is ever an outrage, except when Westerners are imperfect.

In this paradigm, should not these British sailors be thankful to their captors for enlightening them about their false consciousness of being lickspittle imperial lap-dogs of capitalist Jews and Christofascist warmongers? How can you possibly refer to these lucky persons as "hostages" when they are welcome guests of the Islamic Republic? That female Tar was so fetching in her new Islamic Republic kit, she really should give thanks.

[Nth]

Why can't britain just handle this like the KGB Russians did back during the Iranian embassy hostage conflict?

Granted it was some shady tactics, but the russians got their diplomats back alive....we did not. The KGB started threatening the iranians, not with war, but personal attacks upon their personal well-being.

The Iranians are not friends, and we shouldn't even be considering MAKING them friends if this is how they are going to act. Peace through superior fire power and force is the only way to deal with rogue idiotic countries and their leaders such as Iran.

[Hard Right]

This incident is further proof of why the left is favored by terrorist regimes. They know they are cowards and will bend over for them-every time. The left also wants to pretend that regimes like Iran are the victims of the west, just acting out, and really want peace. Forget how Iran said they are going to use their nukes to destroy Israel AND America. They don't really mean it though...(roll eyes in disgust).

Iran kidnapped the Brits so that they would not face tougher sanctions. They will not release them until they are promised they won't face those sanctions. So what should we do lefties? Give them what they want? They won't bend since they know Britain will-because of leftist scum like you. Iran is counting on the fact that Britain will do nothing (no sanctions, attacks, etc.) out of fear that their silors will be executed. Should Britain be held hostage by Iran over 15 soldiers? Thanks to the leftist attitude that even one casualty is one too many, the Muslims KNEW holding a small number hostage would paralyze British leadership.

Leave it to the idiot left to think that terrorists are rational and can be negotiated with.

[Zifnab]

The left uses smooth-tongued diplomats and political manuevering to get what they want. The right runs around breaking things until they can bully their results.

That's the basic break-down. Both sides are just as self-interested in American well-being, but the left likes to employ slowered, more consistant methods that produce less property damage.