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Yes, poor, unhinged Howard Dean, who brilliantly engineered the 50 state strategy, leading to the GOP massacre in '06. You guys won't win another election ever again unless you learn why the public resoundingly rejected you; it appears that there is no danger of that happening. Thus, it is only prudent of Dean to prepare for his Party taking control of the White House in '08. What's the big deal? You prefer the Dem president to be as incompetent and ignorant of world affairs as your Dear Leader when he was selected by the Supreme Court to be President? Sorry we can't ALL be that retarded - that's what you guys are for. :)

I guess Dean is a terrible poker player.

What a moron. The Arabs would LOVE to have such a doofus to fuck over. They did a helluva number on Cornpone Carter. North Korea loved Maddy the Maid Albright...


"Now Ms Royal, we are going to take over the Government in the US just as you are going to beat that wingnut Sarkosy. Why, say, it's in the bag. We've got Huffy, Kos, triple y, BobinBridgeport, Legaleyes, and a lot of other hot shots with hockey stick charts in their pockets. And they are ready to whomp 'em out on call, believe you me. All we need is a little advise from you about how to make the French love us again, in fact this little item will be in our party platform."

"Oh and wait till you meet Rob. He always manages to get in the last word, even if it's only a lame insult like: 'You pee pee pants' or 'Poo poo head.' He's a master propagandist, I'm telling you."

"Now concerning that little platform plank I mentioned before. One thing we want to do is to get les Americains to buy more French wine, see. We would initiate an ad campaign: "Buy vin ordinaire, It's ordinary, AND, it's French". How's that for tag? See Americans like for things to be ordinary. Nothing fancy, get me?"

Right. Things will be different with Dems in power. Why, just look at the sea changes occuring in congress. They've come up with a great plan to end the war in Iraq (not), convicted Scooter in an investigation that determined there was no crime, appointed a crook to the Homeland Security Committee and manufactured a scandal over the firing of US Attorneys. Real leadership and vision.

Legalize, the one true thing in your comment is that unless the Republicans learn from their mistakes they are bound to fail again. I’m pretty sure, however, that you do not have a clue as to what that lesson actually is. The rest of your comment just proves yet again that Democrats are not mature enough to govern in the event that they somehow manage to “take over.”

"Yes, poor, unhinged Howard Dean, who brilliantly engineered the 50 state strategy, leading to the GOP massacre in '06. You guys won't win another election ever again unless you learn why the public resoundingly rejected you; it appears that there is no danger of that happening."

hehe. Crazy like a fox.
Seriously, though. Republicans, with all their business interests and corporate graft and kickbacks and perhaps the most vile display of corruption since they first paved K-Street is LOSING the money game to the Dems. It's embarassing, really, and I wouldn't blame conserva-chumps from taking pot-shots at the frontrunners and their leadership. We can't all have Ken Mehlman running our party.

The dude is, like, Karl Rove's evil twin. But rather than a beard, he's just got hair on his head. No surprise Red Staters are scared shitless of him.

"...convicted Scooter in an investigation that determined there was no crime"

Uh, the Dems didn't convict anyone. The jury did. The Dems didn't even prosecute this case; a USA appointed by W did. And there was a crime; that crime was perjury.

"I’m pretty sure, however, that you do not have a clue as to what that lesson actually is."

Riehlly? I'm pretty sure I do. Is this a trick to get me to tell you what it is? Not falling for it. You guys, after all, seem pretty content to keep it up. By all means, don't let me stop you.

"The rest of your comment just proves yet again that Democrats are not mature enough to govern in the event that they somehow manage to “take over.”"

Riehlly? I thought it proved that you and your fellow travellers are a pack of petulant children with nary a clue as to the thoughts of the American public, and nary an idea as how to accomplish "victory" in what the Pentagon now calls a "civil war" in Iraq. It's pretty clear from the past 6 years of incompetence, lying, scandal, cover-ups, and failure that this is the case. Tell me how this plays out in the deluded fantasy land in which you live.

I believe in free speech and debate. The trouble with some...make that most?... of the Lib commenters is they keep making the same baseless charges over and over again, charges that are demonstrably false. Yes, I know, I know, I keep saying this over and over again, but it needs resaying because they won't or can't stop. Legalize repeats that the Supreme Court made Bush President. Untrue now like it was almost three years ago. Go ask the New York Times about their investigation of the Election results. SOS.

"Well, Saygohleen, may I call you that? (Is that how you say it?) I've got to get over to the Berlin White House now and talk with the German Kaiser. We've got some good ideas about schnitzelbank and other economic efforts and to alert the folks back home to the need for the Germans to reclaim their good feelings for us. I'll just leave you with a couple of French words before I go. John Kerry."

Hey Dean, you weren't elected President. Typical leftitst idiot.

"Go ask the New York Times about their investigation of the Election results. SOS."

"Diagrams from The New York Times supporting its claim that a full state-wide recount under every scenario would have gone to Gore"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/Nytimes.svg/706px-Nytimes.svg.png
Gee... the NYTimes seems to have called it for Gore no matter how you sliced it.

But whatever. Fuck Democracy right? War On Terror. Gotta stay focused.

"Seriously, though. Republicans, with all their business interests and corporate graft and kickbacks and perhaps the most vile display of corruption since they first paved K-Street is LOSING the money game to the Dems."

Terry "Global Crossing" McAuliffe and Al "Iced tea" Gore beg to difer.

Zifnab can't debate the issue, so as usual he throws out a general attack. Grow up Zif.

It wasn't the New York Times that investigated, my error. It was USA Today, Miami Herald, and Knight Rider, using an independent agency. "...under the strictest standard where only a cleanly punched chad was counted, Gore won By BY 3 VOTES [caps by FB for emphasis]. UNDER ALL OTHER STANDARDS, BUSH WON [Same here]..." Whole ghastly story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/United-States-Presidential-election-2000-Florida-results. Sorry my good friend Ziffy for sending you on a wild goose chase.

Oh, by the way, Ziff, if the NYT called it for Gore, "no matter how you slice it", as you say, then I would have to admit they are full of S--t.

No, it's pretty obvious the Republicans have little chance at winning in 2008

Wow Knight Rider investigated the 2000 recount?

No, LOL. They hired an agency to do it. They were seeking to be objective. You know, like the NYT.

Way to cherry-pick Fred. But if we want to be a bit more honest...

"According to the study, only 3% of the 111,261 overvotes had markings that could be interpreted as a legal vote. According to Anthony Salvado, a political scientist at the University of California, Irvine, who acted as a consultant on the media recount, most of the errors were caused by ballot design, ballot wording, and efforts by voters to choose both a president and a vice-president. For example, 21,188 of the Florida overvotes, or nearly one-fifth of the total, originated from Duval County, where the presidential race was split across two pages. Voters were instructed to "vote every page". Half of the overvotes in Duval County had one presidential candidate marked on each page, making their vote illegal under Florida law. Salvado says that this error alone cost Gore the election.

Including overvotes in the above totals for undervotes gives different margins of victory:

Including overvotes in the above totals for undervotes gives different margins of victory:

* Lenient standard. Gore by 332 votes.
* Palm Beach standard. Gore by 242 votes.
* Two-corner standard. Bush by 407 votes.
* Strict standard. Bush by 152 votes.
"

And, of course, none of this is from Conservapedia so it's outrageously suspect with Wikipedia's well-known liberal bias. But there you have it.

If you want to be extra honest, you can acknowledge that "Vice President Al Gore came in second in the electoral vote, but received 543,816 more popular votes than Bush."

We use the electoral vote Zif.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

"We use the electoral vote Zif."

You know who else used the electoral vote? Stalin.

Think about it.

There's two responses to an ass-kicking:

a) Correct your mistakes.

b) Try and snicker that your nose isn't really that broken and it was just 30 or 40 lucky punches.

Thank god you guys have chosen option B. There might actually be hope for this country. Keep it up.

Soviet Russia also had a "conmstitution" and a document not unlike a "bill of rights"... but the power structures of both are remarkably different from ours.

To equate the old Soviet electoral system with ours is a bunch of hogwash as we don't have a guaranteed single party rule (although the way some GOP folks work these days, you'd hardly be able to tell different).

"Soviet Russia also had a "conmstitution" and a document not unlike a "bill of rights"... but the power structures of both are remarkably different from ours."

People don't seem to realize this, but most dictatorships have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. They just aren't followed.

Wait. Don't go Scar and Zif. Please don't go to Goofytown. Are you saying, are you trying to imply, are you flatly stating that the USA is a dictatorship like Stalin's USSR? Tell me it ain't so Joe or I'll have to turn you in to the Double Secret Police. Recant this trash, I beg of you.

"Look Herr Gruber...Oh no, that's not your name? Sorry, my staff left me with no runway on that one, ha ha ha. You can't get good help these days. Anyway, our next election is going to peacefully depose this Stalin-type guy who is now running this brutal dictatorship in the States. When we do, we want to get back to more friendly relations with you Germans so we can have more peace in the world and, frankly, don't be offended, less pork and less beer. See, some people don't like so much pork around and they're not too crazy about beer either. But we want to improve the trade situation so we will be hoping that you go more strongly into the financial arena. For example, maybe you could open more branches of your Schnitzelbanks in the US. Oh no? It's not a bank? It's a sort of scroll with pictures on it of pigs and sausages? With a song that goes with it? Tell you what. I'll come back next month with some new ideas."

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