DC: A Gathering Of Eagles

Michelle Malkin has a report and a multitude of links on the demonstrations in Washington today.

You can also find others blogging via Memeorandum.

Don't look for the MSM to give it balanced coverage. They'll mostly focus on the anti-war demonstrators.

Comments

[Cindi]

Heidi at Guard our Borders has been covering this story non stop......that was until her service was hacked at the core.

Gathering of Eagles is an awesome group.

[Capitalist Infidel]

What cracks me up is that the gathering of eagles far outnumbered the anti war moonbats. What a sorry excuse for an anti war movement when a small grassroots effort blows your professional protesters away.

[Jeff]

This is good, I mean yo have to figure that Coservatives, by larger percentages, have things like jobs to cope with so we can't protest. But nice to see. It's got to be embarassing for Sheehan when a group protesting a protest ends up stealing the show...

I honestly feel bad for Sheehan's political tool, Casey. When I die, I hope that my parents, kids, don't turn me into a political tool. Shame on her.

[Legalize]

Gathering of Eagles or Flock of Seagulls? You make the call:http://www.fotothing.com/photos/d6e/d6e89dcbfa7ecc1d293c4e380bfeb352.jpg

[Cindi]

WOW. Quite a turn out in support of our military troops, President Bush and the GWOT.

The pictures Michelle has up bring tears of pride. Of course you know who hacked the site that Kit put her photos on. But she promises to have them up again soon.

Freedom......the AMERICAN WAY.

[Phoenix]

Wow is right. Tears of pride is right. Lost it at the photo of the Iraqi woman with the purple finger.

This is great news! Yay!!!

[Zifnab]

"Of course you know who hacked the site that Kit put her photos on. But she promises to have them up again soon."

Was it Ned Lamount? I bet it was Ned Lamount. He took down Joe Lieberman's site! He's coming for yooo!

[Legalize]

My favorite part about the Flock of Seagulls is that they are lying about the National Park Service report of 30,000 people. That National Park Service hasn't provided estimates of crowd attendance since 1995 or 1996. Malkin's link to the 30,000 estimate goes straight to the Flock of Seagulls propaganda site. I mean, Malkin and the Flock wouldn't have any reason to lie would they or inflate their own importance would they?

Why don't we have any pictures of this huge mass of *heros* *protecting* the Vietnam Memorial they are protecting from the *threat* they invented? All I've seen, from people who purport to be supporters, is pictures of a few dozen people in any one place. Are they telling me no one stood up on a railing or mail box to take a picture of the Flock of 30,000?

It's also hilarious that the Flock thinks that it was needed to *protect* the Memorial.

Could this be just another fantasy concoted by deluded fanatics to get attention? Losers.

[seekeronos]

No, it was necessary to keep lunatic lefty nutballs who, when in an appropriate level of mouth-frothing madness, decide to commit acts of public property destruction, particularly monuments to the very thing they are gathering to protest.

I am fairly certain that a score-thousand or so burly biker dudes and patriotic men and women were well invested in their time: were it not for their dedcation, some of you moon bats would have had a field day urinating and defecating upon our public monuments like the animals you seem to become in masses.

And why would the Gathering of Eagles inflate their numbers? Unlike you elitist, America-hating traitors... lying about numbers is generally not the province of everyday patriotic Americans.

[Legalize]

"No, it was necessary to keep lunatic lefty nutballs who, when in an appropriate level of mouth-frothing madness, decide to commit acts of public property destruction, particularly monuments to the very thing they are gathering to protest."

Right, absent ANY actual evidence that such desecration was actually going to occur. Your paranoid delusions aren't exactly proof of anything, no matter how many propaganda sites repeat it over and over.

Flock of Pigeons (NYC chapter of the Flock of Seagulls): "OMG, we've got it on good authority (Michelle Malkin, who heard from Charles Johnson, who heard it from Dan Riehl, who heard it from Tom DeLay) that someone is going to burn down the Empire State Building!! It's "necessary" to go stand in front of it to prevent that from happening!!!!"

"And why would the Gathering of Eagles inflate their numbers? Unlike you elitist, America-hating traitors... lying about numbers is generally not the province of everyday patriotic Americans."

The same reason ALL groups inflate their numbers, nutty professor - to raise money, get press, and attempt to present their position as the "majority" position. And I love your newest idiotic generalization: "everyone knows that only leftists make up numbers; patriotic heros would never do that - THIS IS A FACT!" I'm surprised you haven't tossed out the good old "freedom of speech" meme yet, although I suppose you will get to it eventually.

In any event, once again, (a) Malkin IS lying about the Park Service "estimate." The Service DOESN'T PROVIDE ESTIMATES, and hasn't since the Million Man March; and (b) if there were anywhere near 30,000 Seagulls present, where are the pictures? I've seen Malkin's pictures; surely if 30,000 inbred Seagulls all assembled in one spot, one of them might have been bright enough to take a picture from an appropriate vantage point. No? Maybe? You know as well as I do that it is very easy to get good pics from above the Memorial. You want a picture of 30,000 people? I have some that I've taken from the back of a truck and from a mailbox.

[Phoenix]

>My favorite part about the Flock of Seagulls is that they are lying about the National Park Service report of 30,000 people.<

Prove it, Legalize. You're a lawyer. You know all about credible evidence in making declarations about lying.

[Jeff]

Legalize only does pro bono cases for VA nurses who had their wages cut becuase of Goerge Bush's tax cuts to the top 1%.

[Legalize]

"Prove it, Legalize. You're a lawyer. You know all about credible evidence in making declarations about lying."

How cute, another ankel-biter. Here, you go, dimwit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Man_March

///Farrakhan threatened to sue the National Park Service due to the controversial low estimate from the Park Police. After the Million Man March, the Park Police decided to discontinue providing official crowd estimates.///

You see, things like the National Park Police not providing crowd-size estimates is one of those invonvenient things called a "verifiable fact," in that it either does or it does not provide crowd size estimates. And like I said, the Service hasn't done it in over 10 years. So, run along, little ankel-biter or present something that can be verified.

[Legalize]

Teh Silence of teh Seagulls is deafending. Still Googling, detectives?

[Legalize]

Teh Silence of teh Seagulls is giving me a headache. Still Googling, detectives?

[Phoenix]

You calling me an ankle-biter, Legalize? If so, at least spell it correctly.

Now, let's try again.

>My favorite part about the Flock of Seagulls is that they are lying about the National Park Service report of 30,000 people.<

The National Park Service does no reporting of crowd numbers. You made that clear in your comment. What I want you to prove is what the "Flock of Seagulls" is lying about. To prove that, tell us what the actual numbers were.

[Raging_Dave]

A "few dozen people"? Now I know you're just lying out your ass. Don't worry, Legalize. When you're shrieking like a half-wit, I know that all I have to do is turn 180 degrees from your point of view to find the truth. So keep it up!

[Legalize]

"What I want you to prove is what the "Flock of Seagulls" is lying about. To prove that, tell us what the actual numbers were."

I don't really care what YOU are interested in me proving. I don't know what the actual numbers are. Nor did I claim to know. My point, which no matter how much you want to dance around it, is that the Flock of Seagulls people and Malkin are lying about National Park Service estimates - because the Service doesn't PROVIDE estimates. I don't know how much more clear I can make that.

They estimate 30,000. Other, non-interested parties estimate a lower figure - much lower. I've seen no evidence to support the claim of 30,000. So, as far as I can tell, until Malkin, et al, who are lying about the National Park Service (her ONE apparant source for that figure) in order to attempt to bolster their claims, puts up anything remotely verifiable to back their claims, I will remain dubious - as should anyone who isn't a partisan hack.

[Legalize]

"A "few dozen people"? Now I know you're just lying out your ass. Don't worry, Legalize. When you're shrieking like a half-wit, I know that all I have to do is turn 180 degrees from your point of view to find the truth. So keep it up!"

Are you ENTIRELY daft or do you just play that way on the internets? I didn't say there were "a few dozen people" at the Gaggle of Geese demonstration; I said that all I've seen are pictures of a few dozen people standing at any one given place.

[Phoenix]

Legalize,

Why do you keep calling the vets stupid names? Do you not support their efforts?

[skh.pcola]

It's really enlightening for liberals to denigrate a gathering of veterans, isn't it, Legalize? Jackass. "I will remain dubious - as should anyone who isn't a partisan hack." Are you a comedian in addition to being a farm animal now? Jackass.

[Legalize]

Phoenix, why are you dancing around the topic you are so concerned that I address? Don't you have the heft to tackle this head-on instead of constantly trying to move the goal posts or change the topic?

Support what efforts? Hysterical posturing over protecting national monuments from fabricated *threats* from people THEY call stupid names as a matter of course? Um, no, I don't support the efforts of people who fabricate their numbers in an attempt to lamely discredit the vast majority of the public who is very against the war in Iraq. I don't support blind nationalism; I don't support irrational discourse; and I don't support defaming anyone who disagrees with them as being "traitors."

[southdakotaboy]

Legalize uses a typical liberal trick when they are confronted with defeat. Lie,deny and change the subject with insults. If you can get the other guy so mad about the name calling so that they focus in on that then you (the lefty) have successfully changed the subject. All you have to remember is when someone like legalize tells you its not true then it really is.

[Legalize]

"It's really enlightening for liberals to denigrate a gathering of veterans, isn't it, Legalize? Jackass."

No, not enlightening - just highly entertaining, Douchebag. Jackass.

""I will remain dubious - as should anyone who isn't a partisan hack." Are you a comedian in addition to being a farm animal now? Jackass."

Nope. Just someone with enough sense to be skeptical of Michelle Malkin LYING ABOUT HER NUMBERS. Douchebag.

[southdakotaboy]

Legalize uses a typical liberal trick when they are confronted with defeat. Lie,deny and change the subject with insults. If you can get the other guy so mad about the name calling so that they focus in on that then you (the lefty) have successfully changed the subject. All you have to remember is when someone like legalize tells you its not true then it really is true.

[southdakotaboy]

By the way legalize the left has a history or defacing and destroying public proprty and memorials. At the last one of these marches they defaced the sailor memorial and the capital building. When they have a proven track record for that kind of behavior then you can expect it in the future.

[Legalize]

"Legalize uses a typical liberal trick when they are confronted with defeat. Lie,deny and change the subject with insults. If you can get the other guy so mad about the name calling so that they focus in on that then you (the lefty) have successfully changed the subject. All you have to remember is when someone like legalize tells you its not true then it really is."

Nice try, pretender. If you use your brain cell to read my comments, you'll see that I haven't changed the topic - at all. The "typical liberal trick" I used was pointing out that, contrary to Malkin's assertions, the National Park Sevice didn't provide the numbers she claims it did, while simultaneously getting you all lathered up by hilariously describing your heros with the name of a mid-1980s new wave band.

Did the National Park Service provide the number or not? If not, where the hell did it come from?

[Legalize]

"By the way legalize the left has a history or defacing and destroying public proprty and memorials. At the last one of these marches they defaced the sailor memorial and the capital building. When they have a proven track record for that kind of behavior then you can expect it in the future."

Wow, one event rises to the level of a "history" and a "proven track record"? By your "logic" when one soldier kills a house full of women and children, all soldiers have a "proven track record" of same, and that we can expect that behavior in the future.

[Raging_Dave]

Gee, you're right, nobody ever threatened to deface or vandalize the Vietnam Memorial. I guess the paint they were calling for was just to touch up the light poles and garbage cans, right?

http://www.indepundit.com/archive2/2007/03/bring_some_pain.html

Bite me, you freak.

[skh.pcola]

Legalize, you honestly can't locate the partisanship in your commentary? Jackass. Your flaccid attempt to redefine ideological neutrality is a miserable failure. Jackass.

[Legalize]

Yeah, you're right, Unhinged Dave. One comment by "dylan" (without an actual link) as detailed on a wingnut blog sure does constitute a grave threat to the Memorial. That's all the *proof* anyone needs of an actual threat. I'm sure the D.C. and Parks Police would have been swamped without the assistance of Michelle Malkin.

Hey check it out: I'm gonna play center field for the Yankees this year; Johnny Damon better look out 'cause I'm gonna take his job! See that?

"Bite me, you freak."

Does your mother know you're playing internets when you're supposed to be doing your homework, Davey?

[Raging_Dave]

"a wingnut blog" = someone with more courage, integrity and honor than you could ever muster in your lifetime, linking to a Leftist website that you can't refute. Gotcha. Sometimes you're so pathetic that it hurts just to read you. I haven't even gone into how your ideological brethren vandalized the Capitol steps with spray paint earlier this year. Gosh, that's some peace-loving, law abiding people if I ever did see any! And I'm sure that the broken windows of Army Recruiting offices and paint-covered ROTC buildings over the past couple of years were all about peace and love as well, right? The Leftists calling the troops "douchebags" in Olympia earlier this month? It's all about the PEACE, man!

Keep defending the indefensable. I'll keep laughing at you. You have turned yourself into nothing but a sideshow. Something to be laughed at, but not taken seriously by any means.

[Legalize]

""a wingnut blog" = someone with more courage, integrity and honor than you could ever muster in your lifetime, linking to a Leftist website that you can't refute. Gotcha. Sometimes you're so pathetic that it hurts just to read you."

Um, he didn't like, link to the comment. He linked to another site, numb-nuts

"I haven't even gone into how your ideological brethren vandalized the Capitol steps with spray paint earlier this year. Gosh, that's some peace-loving, law abiding people if I ever did see any! And I'm sure that the broken windows of Army Recruiting offices and paint-covered ROTC buildings over the past couple of years were all about peace and love as well, right? The Leftists calling the troops "douchebags" in Olympia earlier this month? It's all about the PEACE, man!"

Yeah, you'd actually have to PROVE any of that if you got into it, wouldn't you? You'd also have to prove that even if any of the events you describe actually took place, then somehow they were about to take place at the Vietnam Memorial, wouldn't you, brainiac?

"Keep defending the indefensable."

Uh, I haven't defended anything, inspector.

"I'll keep laughing at you. You have turned yourself into nothing but a sideshow. Something to be laughed at, but not taken seriously by any means."

Oh, no. The little boy who can't make a coherent point supported by verifiable evidence - ever - is laughing at me and foaming at the mouth with rage, Gee, whatever shall I do?

[Legalize]

Edit: Besides, Davey, if you've been paying any attention in between huffing model airplane glue, you will have noticed that that the contention I've been making this whole time is that the Gaggle of Geese and Malkin have been lying about the source of their attendance figure in order to inflate their own sense of importance, thereby *proving* that they truly are the "moral majority." But I look forward to your next diatribe.

[skh.pcola]

And do the leftard commies get a pass for their estimates, or are their numbers all "realer" to delusional jackasses on the internets?

[Legalize]

"And do the leftard commies get a pass for their estimates, or are their numbers all "realer" to delusional jackasses on the internets?"

Try to keep up, whatever your name is. I stated earlier this morning that all groups inflate their numbers and for the same reasons. But does it have to be explained to you that Malkin and the Seagulls expressly LIED about where they got their figure in this case, and that as such, their claims of "success" and ownership of the "moral majority" should be, you know, scrutinized a little bit - especially given that they've provided NO EVIDENCE to support their claims?

For the love of Little Baby Jesus, getting you people to recognize anything beyond your spoon-fed talking points is like trying to get my nephew to explain to me why exactly the kitty is "bad."

[tally]

legalize, it's really uncalled for and disrespectful to call the eagles seagulls.

[skh.pcola]

Is it inconceivable that Malkin and crew got the "estimate" from Park Service personnel on site during the rally? Just because the Bureau doesn't publicize attendance estimates doesn't mean that they don't, you know, _estimate_ attendance. Jackass.

[Legalize]

"Is it inconceivable that Malkin and crew got the "estimate" from Park Service personnel on site during the rally?"

No, it isn't inconveivable. But they didn't say that they got it from "Park Service personnel;" they said they got it from the SERVICE ITSELF. You see the HUGE difference, right?

"Just because the Bureau doesn't publicize attendance estimates doesn't mean that they don't, you know, _estimate_ attendance. Jackass."

They don't only "not publicize" attendance estimates; they don't MAKE these estimates as a matter of policy because of the threat of lawsuits. If Malkin got her estimate from Park personnel she should say so instead of tyring to make it look like she got an official count from the agency in charge of providing order at the event. Given Michelle's propensity for making shit up whenever it suits her, or run with bullshit other people have made up (Jamil Hussein, the John Kerry photo, Edwards' house, Obama and the madrassa, the factual history contained in her pro-internment book, etc., etc.) it's far from unreasonable to be skeptical of her claims, especially where they concern HER embodying the "moral majority." Mamma's Boy.

[Legalize]

"legalize, it's really uncalled for and disrespectful to call the eagles seagulls."

Oh, sorry. I forgot how concerned with "respect" Riehl's fanboys are. Cry me a river.

[skh.pcola]

You know, Jackass, it is patently absurd for you to maintain that the Park Service would make absolutely no effort whatsoever to estimate how many people attend any event that they have any control over. How do you, in your inflated opinion of yourself, believe that they apportion man-power and resources? Jackass. If I'm at the Grand Canyon and a Park Service employee tells me that 6 million people attended the park last year (which is a number that would never be divined, in your bizarro time-space continuum sphincter world), I would be comfortable claiming that my source for the number was "The Park Service." Jackass. I wouldn't need a proclamation from the director to assume that I had a somewhat-reliable number. Jackass.

[Raging_Dave]

For the brain-dead retard living in his own personal make-believe world:

Vandalism on Capitol Steps:
http://www.earnedmedia.org/FRC0130.htm
ROTC Buildings vandalised:
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=03/03/25/7429394&mode=print
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/04/nc_state_rotc_building_vandalized/
Army Recruiting offices Vandalised:
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20050201151556150
http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2005/02/18309_comment.php

But wait, let me guess, you're going to call indymedia a "wingnut" website because it counterdicts your nice set of make-believe facts, right? You're pathetic, Legalize. You're worthless. This will be the last post I will address to you, because you've proven without a doubt that you're not worth any more of my time. You're nothing more than an ideological buffoon, desperately shouting your poison to anyone who will listen. A partisan hack without two original thoughts to rub together. You have marginalized yourself to the point where you're just some idiot who's comments I scroll over, because you regurgitate the same bullshit over and over and over, never noticing that you've already been taken out behind the woodshed and whipped like a red-headed stepchild.

You're a joke. And a bad one, at that. Keep guzzling that kool-aid, moron. Better men than you could ever hope to be are out there right now, ensuring that you can keep vomiting your nonsense. But that doesn't mean that I have to pay any more attention to you.

[Legalize]

"You know, Jackass, it is patently absurd for you to maintain that the Park Service would make absolutely no effort whatsoever to estimate how many people attend any event that they have any control over. How do you, in your inflated opinion of yourself, believe that they apportion man-power and resources? Jackass."

Is there a fucking idiot echo in here? I didn't say they don't make estimates as to how many people attend an event; I said that they DON'T PUBLICIZE THESE ESTIMATES. Again, if MM wanted said, I talked to an officer and she told me that they estimated 30,000, that would be one thing - BUT SHE DIDN'T.

"If I'm at the Grand Canyon and a Park Service employee tells me that 6 million people attended the park last year (which is a number that would never be divined, in your bizarro time-space continuum sphincter world), I would be comfortable claiming that my source for the number was "The Park Service. Jackass. I wouldn't need a proclamation from the director to assume that I had a somewhat-reliable number. Jackass."

Lord. You know that providing estimates for attendance at the Grand Canyon is not the same thing as providing public estimates for demonstrations - the issue over which the Service is worried about getting sued - right? The Grand Canyon, for example, PUBLICIZES its numbers as a matter of OFFICIAL POLICY for any number of reasons - funding being paramout among them. If a guard at the Grand Canyon told you the estimate for attendance last year it is because she was directed to provide that information as a matter of POLICY.

[ZuZu]

To Raging Davey:

Your first link is to a Christian News Service (yes, you actually consider that a source) story repeating someone else's ludicrous claim about police allowing "vandalism" at the Capitol. A claim that was specifically refuted by the chief of the Capitol Police himself, or don't you follow the actual news?

http://blogs.denverpost.com/washington/2007/01/31/police-chief-explains-failure-to-stop-capitol-vandalism/

Note, by the way, that whatever markings were made were able to be "quickly washed away." Hint: probably not spray paint, doncha think?

Next you link to two stories about anti-ROTC protests on campuses as far back as 2003, and a couple about anti-recruiting protests in other states. That's all ya got, huh? That, and the fact that out of the million or more people who have marched on DC in opposition to this war over the last five years, ten or so marked the sidewalk at one demonstration. Wow.

The fact is that as the Capitol Police Chief said, they, like the Park Police and DC Police are well aware of who the typical culprits are in any given group and the fact that so little damage has occured in such volatile situations over the years speaks to their professionalism. You honestly think they couldn't protect the Vietnam Memorial from vandalism if there was a credible threat?

Oh, and as to that "indymedia" blog post? That single "poster" was immediately outed as a provacateur and a plant. Hint: he shows up and posts exactly what the Beagles have been claiming for the month before that, using exactly their words. Note the reply posts immediately objecting to his post.

Now...how about pulling up some stories about vandalism, bombings, and murders by "pro-life" groups. Or some stories about pro-war nutters threatening, assaulting, and destroying the property of anti-war groups? Quite a trend, wouldn't ya say?

The fact is that this Gathering of Beagles was about a bunch of thugs looking for a chance to mix it up. They spent a little time singing songs and praising the war, and the rest of their time harrassing marchers, which is about all they know how to do.

[hal from Yorktown]

Attention all commie moonbats!
If you enjoyed your drubbing on March 17th from our 30,000 patriots..then please crawl out from under your rocks and be at the memorials on memorial weekend when we have 500,000 Rolling Thunder and Eagles present!