Stupid

Just stupid. That's all I can say.

Comments

[Jadegold]

****Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm going to run off a bit from a Patrick Roy quote "I'm sorry, Mr. Miller can't hear you....he has five emmys blocking his ears".***

It's four (4), Rickkky.

On the other hand, you may have a different number of fingers.

[Jay B.]

Emmy? I'm seeing stars...TV stars! Oh Emmy where will you take us next? Best local drivetime yak fest? Female lead on a day time soap? Top tv chef?

The Emmies are like the Special Olympics. Everyone's a winner.

[Phoenix]

Public schools are liberal? I don't think so. The administrations and running of the schools kowtow to PC these days, but the curriculum is neither liberal nor conservative. That is not to say an individual teacher might not try to instruct in such a way as to lean left or right, but they do have to follow the curriculum. They do not get to write that curriculum. Besides, teenagers don't much care about politics.

My daughter emailed from her university this week to tell me about having to watch "An Inconvenient Truth" in one of her classes. She said she was moved by it. I promptly emailed back about five expositions of the opposite view and that was it. Oh, and I explained 'demagoguery' to her. Jeff Hecke, above, has it right. Parents can explain the details. I'm glad she saw it. I want my kids to see both sides and to meet in the middle. It's the only way. Why settle for canceling out thinking.

[Ted]

"4. There is no indoctrination allowed. Ideas are taught, opinion is allowed, but the kind of indoctrination(where grades are impacted) that exists in public school is just not tolerated,"

You conservatives see boogeymen everywhere. I went to a run-of-the-mill public high school in a middle-middle class area, and the ONLY "indoctrination" I got from any teacher, ever, on a political matter was when a Jewish history teacher said he'd fight for the right of Neo-Nazis to hold a parade through his neighborhood like anyone else could, to make a point about the first amendment.

[templar knight]

And your point is, Ted, that just because you didn't see it, therefore it doesn't exist, irregardless of evidence to the contrary. Nonetheless, I get to decide where my children go to school, and I think you don't like it. Makes me surer than ever that I'm doing the right thing, after seeing the opposition.

[buma]

I'm wondering which fair and balanced fox program is going to be replaced by this thing. There are some people who honestly thing this vid clip is funny. Just like there are some people who love watching Lawrence Welk reruns. I just don't know any of them. If fox wants to run this program who cares? I won't be watching it.

[TheSpartan]

Templar the same could be said of the school you sent your kids to "just because you didn't see it..." The teachers in private schools are the same people that teach in public schools, what makes you think they are any different in the classroom?

[buma]

There is a trend lately for conservative pundits to be promoted after being proven dead wrong. Limbaugh's jerky belly-shaking attempt to ridicule Michael J Fox during the Missouri senate race was one of the defining moments of the 2006 midterm elections. He did more than as any other person to ensure a Democratic victory. So why not give him more opportunities to make an impact? The fact that Fox even thinks this is an answer to Stewart/Colbert is funny enough for me.

[scarshapedstar]

"tbogg (where Glen Greenwald is emulated because......well, we don't know why, it's just the exact same thing for some reason)"

Tbogg started blogging 3 years before Glenn.

"Nonetheless, I get to decide where my children go to school, and I think you don't like it. Makes me surer than ever that I'm doing the right thing, after seeing the opposition."

I went to private school, and then I went to a publicly-funded magnet school. As to which was better, well, it depends on whether you care more about football and baseball or chemistry and calculus.

[LOL]

"irregardless"

come on now, who's education was lacking?

[scarshapedstar]

"come on now, who's education was lacking?"

Sheesh... if you want too make a home skool grammer joke you oughtn't not mess up your post, to!

[Phoenix]

Two things make your education: 1.Your personal motivation, and 2. The teacher who generates it.

That can happen in any classroom from the poorest urban setting to the snottiest private school.

Just because you pay big bucks for private school does not ensure your child's education will be any better than if she was lucky enough to find the 'perfect' teacher. Many of those teachers are in public schools because they want to make a difference.

[TheSpartan]

And teachers work in Private schools for a variety of reasons as well: smaller classes, more motivated students, increased parental involvment, greater academic freedom, etc. It's gat to be something because the money isn't as good.

[RW]

Wow, Kevin Cabot is still alive & kicking!

[Phoenix]

Right, Spartan. It works both ways. You've got the best and the worst teachers in private and public schools. The variables are so enormous that it takes a lot of effort on a parent's part to find the best for his child.

I taught and during my time, home-schooled kids had to spend their last two years in public schools in order to be awarded a diploma. (Something like that..not sure) I can tell you that I got 12th graders who read on a sixth-grade level to 12th graders who could have easily smoked a college senior. From the private schools in my district that did not go beyond 9th grade, we had to set up special classes to get the in-coming students to grade level. They usually entered 10th grade at a 7th grade level. Both private schools were Christian schools. I have to qualify that so my basis for comparison/experience was not with private, non-religious schools.

The most important thing a parent needs to think about is - will my child be 'okay' when he leaves home for college.

I'll also add this: Many teachers leave the profession because of over zealous parental involvement. It works both ways and too many parents are screaming idiots.

[Jay B.]

Phoenix: "It works both ways and too many parents are screaming idiots."

Proof: "irregardless of evidence to the contrary"

Even an indoctrinated, socialist, atheistic, public school-educated idiot like myself can enjoy the screaming irony of a guy blowing the horn of private education while employing a non-existant word to mock someone else's 'narrow' view of the world. Well played sir!

[TheSpartan]

"I'll also add this: Many teachers leave the profession because of over zealous parental involvement. It works both ways and too many parents are screaming idiots."

Too true. I'm lucky enough to be working in a pretty exclusive secular prep-school with a waiting list so it's ok to ignore the whacko's. Most parents ore ok once they understand that, like them, teachers generally have their kids best interests in mind.

[Phoenix]

Jay B - That was not necessary. I bet more people say 'irregardless' than 'regardless'. Cheap shot.

Spartan,

I left my career early (20 yrs.) and had the option of a famous Ivy League private school (I'd say the name and you'd recognize it, but too close to my location) and a private, hippie school where the grades were all in one place and the kids could show up barefoot and their parents 'helped'. :) I thought really hard about both and just said screw it - no way could I put up with the parents in either case: Those who, because they paid big bucks, most certainly had a voice; and those who viewed the world through the 60's who assumed they had a voice.

And you're right - most teachers go into the profession with serious dedication no matter the school. The loser teachers fade away sooner or later. .... I have to add - 95% of parents are wonderful and make your job easier if you need them.

[templar knight]

Thanks for the support, Phoenix. And irregardless has been used for years in casual and informal writing, "regardless" of what Jay B. says.

Oh, Jay B., my education was public, so your point is moot. My promotion of private education has withstood the "irony" of an atheistic, social, indoctrinated public school idiot such as you. Your words, sir.