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Don't look now, but the world record for "fastest shark jump" has just been broken.

Not sure whether that is worse than the clip I saw here

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/14418/1/HHNS-Obama.wmv/

Will this trainwreck even make it to a 2nd show?

is this a new attempt at wingnut humor? lol, conservatives are such failures

Hmm, a drug addict and a transvestite in the WH. Considering how bar the low is today that isnt too much of a stretch. It's nice to see Rush back at his fighting weight. I guess the 'pain' has subsided.

Let's see, a drug addict and a transvestite in the WH. Considering how low GW has set the bar, I think it's plausible. It's good to see that Rush's 'pain' has subsided and that he's feeding himself like a pig again.

Wow, what a stinking pil of monkey poop. That might be the least funny thing I have ever seen.

Awww come on. It isn't that bad really. I have seen a bunch of the clips from the 1/2 hour/News hour and, although kind of canned, it doesn't fall in the catagory of NOT being entertaining. Besides...it's a pilot and has low production budgets right now.

But of course the left would hate it...thats what its for.I mean...you have the elitist "spoof" news The Daily Show and then you have CNN, ABC, MSNBC, etc etc. Hell, they all take cheap shots at the conservatives and you find THAT funny. Of course...your all biased.

Still..all that conservative hating and your news channels still can't beat Fox. The show may not go far, but it'll be fun watching you libs get your underwear in a bunch trying to destroy it.

Yep, almost as bad as anything from Air America radio.

There are a couple of shows on AAR that are entertaining and of course a couple more from Jones Broadcasting. I've seen a few clips from this show and the writing is awful. The use of canned laughter is unintentionally hillarious.

I've been hearing about this show for over a year and this is the best material they had for rollout? You put your best foot forward for your pilot not your worst.

There have got to be some good conservative writers out there (PJ O'Rourke for one but I doubt he'd do TV) why didn't they scour the countryside.

Wingnuts just don't get comedy; they never will. Stuffy, angry people who can't accept that they aren't necesarily entitled to the privileges they demand don't really resonate with someone looking for a laugh.

"Still..all that conservative hating and your news channels still can't beat Fox. The show may not go far, but it'll be fun watching you libs get your underwear in a bunch trying to destroy it."

This is an attempted "comedy" show we're talking about. If you want to make comparisons (I know you guys prefer the dishonest ones) compare it to John Stewart or Colbert - you know, the shows Faux News is trying (pathetically) to emulate. No one will have to put forth any effort to destroy this show; it will fail all on its own, because it isn't funny to anyone with a comedy IQ any higher than AIDS jokes. Comedy is about making sharp observations about popular events, which is what the aforementioned comedians do - not making fun of the ideologically impure, simply because you don't like them.

Like all Reaganite projects, this one will fail and conservatives will bark, and seethe, and whine about bias and the evil libruls trying to destroy them. Somehow this failure will be Clinton's fault.

Wow, "Legalize", were there any Marcotte-ian screeds that you left out? Don't you guys get your joneses posting your hatred on DU? Do you HAVE to slime up this site after clicking from tbogg (where Glen Greenwald is emulated because......well, we don't know why, it's just the exact same thing for some reason) just so you can anonymously type what you'd never have the guts to say to someone's face (else you'd end up with the kos-in-high-school-treatment)?

I mean, come on. SOMETHING original would be nice from you guys.

I have to roll my eyes every time I hear some conservative whine about how Jon Stewart only makes fun of conservatives. Sure, he probably makes fun of conservatives more than he makes fun of liberals, but you know why that might be? BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE IN CONTROL OF ALL THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT FOR SIX FREAKING YEARS. If you're that prominent and that much in control, guess what, you're gonna be in for more ribbing than the people who aren't. Y'all are gonna need to grow a much thicker skin if you want to have any hope of getting anything back in '08.

"...just so you can anonymously type what you'd never have the guts to say to someone's face..?"

Bravely spoken, "RW"

Hmmm....I don't watch very much television, and there's a reason why. There's nothing on worth watching, and I doubt Rush and Anne can say anything that would make me laugh as much as reading some of the posts made by the liberal and lefty commenters on this blog. One wonders how someone can grow up in America, supposedly going to public school for 13 years, and be as truly stupid as some of the liberals here. A testament to our public education system, I suppose, which is why I have my children in private school.

RW, you know dick about liberal bloggers. You've obviously never read Glenn or Tbogg (at least one of them), since they're absolutely nothing alike.

"which is why I have my children in private school."

You think that keeps them safe from the liberals? Guess what I do for a living?

"There's nothing on worth watching, and I doubt Rush and Anne can say anything that would make me laugh as much as reading some of the posts made by the liberal and lefty commenters on this blog."

And yet Stewart and Colbert can take all the stupidity that flows from the right and channel it to comedy gold. A shame we don't live in a capitalist society, or they'd be rolling in giant piles of money while being hailed as media superstars. Oh wait...

Just face it templar. In the culture war, the 1/2 hour news hour is the HEX Vest to the Daily Show's ballistic missle. You're only hurting yourselves with this one.

"You think that keeps them safe from the liberals? Guess what I do for a living?"

Holistic medicine? Lawyer for the ACLU? Naked PETA girl? Ted Haggard's gay prostitute meth dealer? Used Pony Salesman?
Ok, I'm out of guesses.

Apart from the distinction between liberal versus conservative humor, the reason this WON'T be the conservative Daily Show is that it airs on Fox News. The Daily Show satirizes network and cable news as much as or more as it does politics. Fox News won't effectively make fun of itself.

The Daily Show also has the advantage in that, while the writers and host may have a liberal bias that naturally gives one the overall sense that it is a liberal show, the show's conception of itself actually doesn't have a liberal agenda or "mandate", if you will. If a democratic candidate does or says something particularly silly TDS will make fun of it, and it regularly takes the position that both sides suck. However, if you set out to make an explicitly conservative news satire, you are going to end up harping endlessly on liberals while giving a pass to conservative targets who richly deserve skewering, even from other conservatives. It's going to seem forced and agenda-ridden if it does that. I mean, is it really political satire if it isn't going to make fearless fun of the President on a regular basis?

Finally, Fox News can kiss "fair and balanced" goodbye forever, to the extent it hasn't already.

It's funny to see Legalize writing about writing. The guy can't shut up. The term for Legalize's comments is 'logorrhea'. Kinda like William F. Buckley. Only Buckley is at least capable of original thought.

Legalize, you do realize people read maybe the first line of one of your comments and then skip to the next?

Heh. If we really want to keep our children safe from the brainwashings/dumbing down of our children into useless liberal-voting cattle by the liberal-fascist school system... we'd send them to a good fundamentalist Christian school. Or home-school them.

Hey, Bob/Artie/Carl/Sockpuppet #44545898 :

That Ann Coulter-is-a-transvestite thing was humour. Or don't you have enough brain cells left between making up new sockpuppets here to figure that out?

The Fox show is a train-wreck. I'm so left, I hear the screams when I drop the ear of corn into boiling water. Nevertheless, I thought the Rush/Ann promo was funny--quite so, especially the "How'd Pelosi get this number" quip. But if there was ever any sincere doubt that Ann is not a serious commentator, it was rent asunder by her riff on the "kill them and convert them" comment.

Yeah, Uncle Rush is a blowhard, and it's amazing that there are simpletons who take his shtick seriously. But the guy is funny, even when working with stale material.

Bravely spoken, "RW"
The link over the initials goes to my own site, listed under my name's domain, where I've done anything but remain anonymous. Next time, if you're going to try to one-up someone, make sure you cover your bases before making an ass of yourself.
RW, you know dick about liberal blogger
You're right, Evan. I obviously missed that Greenwald's schtick is to scour right-of-center web sites & attempt to word parse every minutia in order to reach the ultimate outcome of besmirching and discrediting anyone who dares disagree while tbogg's schtick, while the exact same thing as Greenwald, takes place on an entirely different URL. So I stand corrected as they're as different as....1 motrin versus 4 doses of ibuprofen.

And while I'm admitting my errors, let me state upfront that at no time has tbogg been embarrassingly busted as a sock-puppet, that I know of. Man, that was one more public ass-kicking that Greenwald took, wasn't it? Kudos to Tom for being the original.

Sorry, apparently "blockquote" isn't an acceptable html item.

The reason libs are better at humor is they've had years of rejection to practice it. Years of hanging out by the drama department cutting yourself and making snide jokes about the jocks who didn't invite you to any of their keggers gives you chops. When you're a happy, optomistic, successful person, (and for LOL - successfull is usually defined by someone who doesn't need the government to take care of them or make laws so a college will accept them,) you don't cultivate that bitter angst that so many commedians have. And lets face it - The Daily Show is funny - but they NEVER have the balls to make fun of their own kind. We conservatives don't need our own comedy show as long as the libtards keep protesting. God, you couldn't write anything as funny as a bunch of stinky, dirty, quasi-retards, spewing bumper-sticker slogans and marching around with cute little signs with pictures of Bush with horns sticking out and Hitler mustaches drawn on. That is GOLDEN! ...and let them have their little comedy shows. I think our lives as conservatives, (happy, successful, monied, self-reliant) vindicates anything they can try to do to make us feel badly.

Shorter BCMG: Liberals are funny because no one likes them. Conservatives are not funny because they are already popular and don't need to be.

Also, I've never watched the Daily Show.

Well, I think I'm funny - but I spent years as an angry liberal. Then I got sober. People tend to want to be around happy, optomistic folks who don't try to guilt you out of your money. Nobody wants to hang with the angry "Negatarian" (my word for people so negative that they make a religion out of it,) except other angry Negatarians who have fallen into (what I call) their whirling vortex of misery.

My God, even the laugh track was bad.

RW, let's go over this a bit more slowly.

Glenn Greenwald and tbogg are not doing the same thing. You see, Glenn Greenwald thinks rightwing nutballs are stupid and a colossal danger to the safety of the planet, so he is doing his best to convince more intelligent people to do whatever they can to stamp out rightwing nutball stupidity. Tbogg, on the other hand, thinks rightwing nutballs are stupid and is having a grand old time making fun of rightwing nutballs.

Now it is true that both gentlemen think that rightwing nutballs are stupid, but let's be honest -- there are many, many people across the face of planet Earth who think rightwing nutballs are stupid. This common trait does not mean that all of these millions of intelligent people are engaged in the same schtick.

By your reasoning, I myself am a hefty dose of pain killer, and I don't even write a political blog.

this thread is hilarious, every post golden.

except templar's: "why I have my children in private school."

I'm sorry that you feel so surrounded by liberals in you daily life and feel the need to censor their content from your children. If liberalism is so fucked up, why not let them see and if they're smart enough, they'll make sense of it.

But the terror won't let you. Templar, you seem like a really small, impotent person.

So, LOL, you don't censor content from your children? You would let them attend an Evangelical church if they wanted? A KKK rally? Porno?

Well, that was a real dud. Rush does better comedy on his radio show than this. And what's up with Coulter's lines? I can't differentiate her 'funny" stuff from what she says "seriously"...

Actually, mock outrage and feigned victimization are the conservative strong suits. Might I suggest focusing on unintended irony and blatant hypocrisy? Stay with your "A" game....there's pure comedy gold there. Hell, I'd even tune in to watch some of that.

"The link over the initials goes to my own site, listed under my name's domain, where I've done anything but remain anonymous."

We're not on your site, are we?

Wow, "Legalize", were there any Marcotte-ian screeds that you left out? Don't you guys get your joneses posting your hatred on DU? Do you HAVE to slime up this site after clicking from tbogg (where Glen Greenwald is emulated because......well, we don't know why, it's just the exact same thing for some reason) just so you can anonymously type what you'd never have the guts to say to someone's face (else you'd end up with the kos-in-high-school-treatment)?

I mean, come on. SOMETHING original would be nice from you guys."

Speaking of the "origianlity" for which the loony right is so famous, one can always count on the cut and paste use of words like "screed," "hate" whenever one dares question even the comedy stylings of two bona fide hate merchants like Rush the Junkie and Ann the Trannie. I trust that this is merely the political impotence, and utter incompetence at addressing matters of substance talking - for which the loony right is so so so famous.

Is there any wonder that even Dennis Miller repeatedly fails on television?

"It's funny to see Legalize writing about writing. The guy can't shut up. The term for Legalize's comments is 'logorrhea'. Kinda like William F. Buckley. Only Buckley is at least capable of original thought."

I'm sorry; I'll try to use fewer words for you nex time.

"Legalize, you do realize people read maybe the first line of one of your comments and then skip to the next?"

Of course. Reading and bothering to respond substanively are not skills taught to home-schooled recluses. But seriously, do you people do anything but whine or are you still looking for another dottering, old, washed up actor to make you feel good about your superiority complexes?

Actually, mock outrage and feigned victimization are the conservative strong suits.

Like that Conservative "Victim" Amanda Marcotte, right? Lol.

are you still looking for another dottering, old, washed up actor to make you feel good about your superiority complexes?

We don't look to ANY actors for guidance or acceptance or validation; YOU do. Hence the very existence of HuffPo. You somehow think that if you agree with George Clooney, he'll be your best friend. How sad.

"So, LOL, you don't censor content from your children? You would let them attend an Evangelical church if they wanted? A KKK rally? Porno?"

Can't speak for him, but the first two wouldn't bother me. Oh, we'd talk about them later, and I'd explain my opinions, but I wouldn't hide her from them.

When I was in fifth grade, a friend invited me along to a Baptist Church evening group. My parents were technically Methodists, and more accurately agnostics, but they still let me go. And I got all sorts of goofball information thrown at me, like the idea that the Earth was only 6,000 years old. But guess what? I asked my parents about it, and they told me about the evidence that the Earth was more like 4,499,994,000 years older than that. And I listened, and read, and decided they were right.

My parents, you see, weren't afraid of me being exposed to ideas different than their own. They figured that I could make decisions for myself.

The KKK is such a pathetic group at this point that my daughter could learn a lot from going to a rally--and watching the massive counterprotest that dwarfs the hate.

As for porn--no, not everything has to be put in front of kids. When she's an adult, it's her own business, not mine. But I don't think conservative ideas are the moral equivalent of pornography--something our children need to be protected from at all costs. I just think they're wrong. And I'm not afraid of my daughter being exposed to them, because if they're wrong (which I believe them to be) and she's smart (which she is), she'll be able to discern that.

"We don't look to ANY actors for guidance or acceptance or validation"

are you saying Reagan was a Democrat?

"are you saying Reagan was a Democrat?"

No, but apparently Mark Foley was.

"Like that Conservative "Victim" Amanda Marcotte, right? Lol."

Actually, Amanda was a target of a conservative Republic Cafeteria Catholic who specializes in faked outrage and feigned claims of victimization. I think he's a clown, so I guess we could include him in the conservative comedian category. Maybe he can make a guest appearance on a future show.

Welll....

the koine (ancient) Greek word for "actor" is "hupokrites", from which we have the word "hypocrite" in modern English.

In a sense, nearly any president we have had since 1932 could be accused of being a hypocrite in some form or fashion. And one was even an actor in the Hollywood sense of the word.

[snip] *Standard-issue liberal anti-Bush harangues*[/snip]

But few politicians in my living memory stand out as bigger hypocrites than either of the two Clintons, and Madam Speaker Pelosi [TunaGate] *cough* [Air Force Three] *cough* is certainly building herself a record.

So as long as we want to toss around who was a "doddering actor", I'm sure we can find as many Dhimmicrats as Republicans to fit the pair of shoes in question.

"We don't look to ANY actors for guidance or acceptance or validation"

Excellent example of the unintended irony and blatant hypocrisy I was suggesting upstream. Because Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson, and Sonny Bono were actors who were never elected as conservative Republicans, right? See, you do have potential for making comedy gold!

"are you saying Reagan was a Democrat?"

For a large portion of his political life, he was.

***We're not on your site, are we?***
THAT was the most intelligent retort you could come up with after your ignorance was displayed? When your initial response, ASSuming that I was remaining anonymous, was blown out of the water, THAT was the best you could conjur?


****Is there any wonder that even Dennis Miller repeatedly fails on television?****
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm going to run off a bit from a Patrick Roy quote "I'm sorry, Mr. Miller can't hear you....he has five emmys blocking his ears".

"For a large portion of his political life, he was." Not quite true, Dan. IIRC, he was a Democrat and President of the SAG in hius salad days, but bailed on that during the McCarthy witch hunt in Hollywood during the 50's. His Republican conversion came when he started making the really big bucks as a GE spokesperson, salvaging him from his dying acting career. An early pioneer for today's wingnut welfarism.

"Madam Speaker Pelosi [TunaGate] *cough* [Air Force Three] *cough* is certainly building herself a record."

Good one. When in doubt, throw in a gibe based on a right-wing story that's entirely untrue. Very impressive.

kkk rally? porno?

these are your equivalents to exposing someone to liberals?

i'd have no problem with the church, have gone inside many a church myself in spite of being an atheist. And would have no problem with my children if i should be lucky enough to have some.

Porno is tricky, and really pretty broad. So i guess the answer is as bob dole would say "depends"

but it's really sad how alone wingnuts feel in the world, as evidenced by your supposedly analogous examples. So liberal public schools are to conservatives what the KKK is to liberals? strange

You know, i think there are intentionally funny conservative types out there -- but their humor is only generally effective when they play against conservative type.

Reagan was intentionally funny at times. He was softspoken and deft with his jabs, not Air Horn obvious ("B.O" HONK! Hahahahaha!) -- which made his brand of radical conservatism seem less harsh than it actually was. Bob Dole's wit is parching and dry, but it's quite funny too. So, in part, its in the delivery. It's also in the target. The well-to-do, for example, has traditionally been a popular target for lampooning. Or at least acknowledging conservatism's shortcomings while sticking the shiv into liberal sibboleths -- something Chris Buckley and PJ O'Rourke have done effectively.

Making fun of a popular black guy using astonishingly racist stereotypes -- which don't fit or send up Obama's persona in any way -- objectively isn't funny. Some of you may laugh, but that's just because you're hardwired to do so. But it's SO not funny that one can only conclude it's chief objective isn't 'humor' as any of us may understand it, but propaganda.

And of course, there are plenty of uptight, unfunny liberals out there, on guard for any slight real or perceived. A true liberal, however, makes fun of them too.

LOL, as difficult as this might be for you to believe, there are quite a large number of liberals who send their children to the same private school I send mine to. They do it for the same reasons I do:

1. The children receive a quality education unencumbered by polital correctness.
2. The children are not subjected to the kind of undisciplined behavior that results in violence, and destroys the atmosphere of learning.
3. Children who break the rules repeatedly are expelled.
4. There is no indoctrination allowed. Ideas are taught, opinion is allowed, but the kind of indoctrination(where grades are impacted) that exists in public school is just not tolerated, period. Teachers are not at this school to spread ideology, but to expose students to a variety of ideas. Students and their parents are expected to handle the ideology.

As for the quality of the school, my oldest son is a junior at a public college, where he is majoring in mechanical engineering and nuclear technology. He has a 3.87 overall GPA, not to boast, but to kill the bible college comments before they appear.

Is this a church school? Mnost private schools I've been involved with are as, if not more, liberal as public schools.

i wonder, does it teach creationism at all?

sure i never said private schools were bad, just ur only given reason at the time was basically censorship

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