McCain Should Shut Up And Sit Down

Maybe he's feeling shunned by the MSM and the Sunday talk shows and wanted to give them a reason to have him on. There's nothing wrong with admitting mistakes have been made in Iraq, but that's already been done. Also, Rumsfeld came to the Pentagon to modernize it, not fight and win two wars in record time - which he did.

Whatever causes McCain to come up with his talking points, or if they are points off the cuff, they're wrong. And the man is getting annoying to have around. He should go back to the Senate and perform his job, ensuring victory in Iraq. His campaign for the Presidency is going to be a well-deserved rout. He has nothing to offer. We need to look forward, not back.

“BLUFFTON, S.C. (AP) — Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Monday the war in Iraq has been mismanaged for years and former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst in history.

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[Oregonian]

So Rumsfeld "won the war in record time" but McCain is needed back in the Senate to "ensure victory" four years after the invasion.

Do you even read any of the crap you post?

[Purple Avenger]

McCain is DOA as a candidate.

[James]

Oregonian:

The line should be:

"Do you ever read any of the crap BEFORE you post?"

For McCain, Senator Flip-Flopper is just trying to take the title away from Bush.

I think McCain has a very good chance.

[Purple Avenger]

"I think McCain has a very good chance."

Not saying retard shit like that he doesn't.

[Hard Right]

McCain may yet prevail, but I hope he doesn't. The man has business in office let alone in the White House.

Oregonian, you must be allergic to thinking. That's ok, though. People like you shouldn't do things you aren't good at.

[Hard Right]

That's McCain has NO business in office...

[Serr8d]

You could've titled your post "Buffoon in Bluffton"...

The best part of McCain's brain was beaten out of him in Vietnam, unfortunately.

[Darth Malice]

Somebody tell McCain to STFU!!!!He will not be POTUS!

[BobInStamford]

"fight and win two wars in record time". Haha, you sheep really drink that koolaid. Actually, the Taliban is still operating in Afghanistan, bin Laden has not been 'smoked out' and 'brought to justice', and the goatherders are still shooting in Iraq. Worst.president.ever. Stay the course, heros!

[Darth Malice]

Bob ,on this point I am forced to agree,instead of taking it to the enemy he has been taking it up the rear to our enemies here .McCain has been sticking it to Bush yet all Bush does is grab ankle.We need an absolute brute who will destroy our enemies and crush the traitors here at home.

[Kitty]

McCain is a back-stabbing media whore.

[johanna]

even mccain sees that we'll lose in iraq and trots out bumsfeld as his own personal scapegoat! hey john, get back on your flip flop express and head over a cliff.

[Kite]

This is just McCain pandering to the side he thinks will get him the most votes. Too bad he's wrong though and he doesn't even realize it. This beauty contest that the Presidential election has become is starting to envelope all of the current candidates on both sides.

It isn't even September yet and we're already seeing candidate meltdowns. Edwards hires bloggers that jeapordize him, Hillary has already been combed over about fifty times and each time we find out she is more vitriolic and dark than before, Obama is just some "Brad Pitt" of the democratic party that they want to push up there until Hillary tries some dirty tactic to undermine a comrade in her own party.

The republicans are no better this time around. I mean...who do we REALLY have that is a representative of a conservative base? Giuliani? No...he has shown that despite his strengths he has weaknesses that will hurt him from getting votes. Mitt....I just don't see the charisma or personality there. Besides he has been shifty on a few of his fews here recently, and McCain? well...he's just jealous other people are getting the limelight right now so he went out and opened his big fat mouth.

This political circus is starting to turn in to a political dogpile.

[Jeff]

With everyone jumping into 08 so quickly, they will all be destroyed before the primary. It seems like the last man in may be the one to win.

Gingrich all the way. Hillary scares any sane person away.

It's kind of weird the opponents killing themselves, Barry Osama basically called one of the United States' best allies a coward (John Howard). Mrs. Bill Clinton was dead before she started, she has been doing plenty of dumb stuff, and 44% of people say they would never vote for her. That means at best she has 56% of the vote. Not good. Breck Girl Edwards like Kite said was murdered by Amanda Marcotte.

McCain is toast. Giulliani appeals to moderates, and moderate conservatives. And since strict conservations would rather drink acid than vote for Hillary they will vote for Giuliani. I think a Giuliani/Romney ticket would crush Hillary Rotton Rodman Clinton.

[templar knight]

Everyone hold off until Bob changes his underwear. Surge on, Bob!

[charles]

Attention frothing lefties:

"when anger is the sole motivating factor behind a person's writing, when he offers little but dismissive rage of those who have the temerity to think differently, one almost feels embarrassed for the writer in question because, after a while, the anger seems less righteous and more self-righteous"

sound familiar? Look in the mirror and tell me what you see

[nova]

No matter who wins they will be hated by most people one year into their presidency. Americans love to hate their leaders. The French do also. The Germans do too. Maybe it is universal.

[Phoenix]

"Rumsfeld came to the Pentagon to modernize it, not fight and win two wars in record time - which he did."

No kidding. And his work was brilliant - especially under the circumstances he was faced with both politically and during a time of war.

I saw the McCain clip and couldn't believe what I was hearing. Turncoat.

[Andrew]

You cons certainly are an angry lot. But I suppose if I supported a losing venture like Iraq for years, I would be a bit testy too.

[Phoenix]

Andrew,

Angry? Testy? Don't you mean we cons have testicular fortitude? Yeah, that's what you meant.

[Darth Malice]

Andrew maybe we can go back to the great Jimmy Carter.....Now there was leadership!

[Andrew]

Leadership? Fortitude? Cmon, just admit that you have supported the biggest moron to ever be President. The man is a disgrace on every level. He has accomplished nothing during his term and has led America into a losing war in a country that we have no business in.

No wonder every candidate is running from Bush. America has finally woken up to the fact that he is a complete failure. Your support of such a loser doesnt reflect well on you either.

[Jeff]

"just admit that you have supported the biggest moron to ever be President"

If I do will leave us alone and go back and play your XBox?

You clearly are still dillusional and possibly hung over.

"Your support of such a loser doesnt reflect well on you either."

I don't support you...

[Andrew]

'Dilusional'? You merely reinforce the sterotype of rightwingers as uneducated rednecks. I'd tell you to stop, but you and the rest of the nuts on here with their heads in the sand make for fine entertainment.

[Jeff]

Was that a comeback or something?

Very nice.

[MinorRipper]

John McCain 2008 = Bob Dole 1996
www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com

[seekeronos]

Methinks Andrew is yet another one of Bob/Carl/Artie/ButtGoblin's sockpuppets.

Note the same tone, but lightened up ever so slightly to try to throw off the radar.... but still as ignorantly smug as all the other 545,203 sockpuppets he uses here.

[Oregonian]

Hey DV, you wanna talk about Carter and leadership and fighting terrorism? Go read Nick Kristof's column in this morning's New York Times. It's a report from Ethiopia.

"[I]n remote places like this, former President Carter, at 82, is leading a private war on disease that should inspire and shame President Bush and other world leaders into joining. It’s not just that Mr. Carter’s wars have been more successful than Mr. Bush’s; Mr. Carter is also rehabilitating the image of the U.S. abroad and transforming the lives of the world’s most wretched peoples."

"On the previous night, Mr. Mekonnen had slept under a mosquito net for the first time in his life, as part of a Carter initiative to wipe out malaria and elephantiasis in this region. And Mr. Mekonnen now uses an outhouse as a result of a Carter Center initiative to build 350,000 outhouses in rural Ethiopia to defeat blindness from trachoma."

"Mr. Carter has almost managed to wipe out one horrific ailment — Guinea worm — and is making great strides against others, including river blindness and elephantiasis. In this area, people are taking an annual dose of a medicine called Mectizan — donated by Merck, which deserves huge credit — that prevents itching and blindness."

"Mectizan also gets rid of intestinal worms, leaving Ethiopian villagers stronger and more able to work or attend school. Among adults, the deworming revives sex drive, so some people have named their children Mectizan."

"Mr. Carter’s private campaign against the diseases of poverty, put together with pennies and duct tape, is a model of what our government could do. Imagine if the U.S. resolved that it would wipe out malaria and elephantiasis (both are spread by mosquitoes, so a combined campaign makes sense). What if we celebrated science not by trying to go to Mars but by extinguishing malaria? What if we tried to burnish America’s image abroad not only with press releases and propaganda broadcasts, but also with a bold campaign against disease?"

http://www.nytimes.com

[charles]

Mr. Kristof would lead us to believe we haven't spent more to wipe out HIV in Africa lately than under any previous administration

Mr. Kristof would lead us to believe that previous to the arrival of St. Jimmuh Africans were incapable of digging their own outhouses

Mr. Kristof would lead us to believe that all the manpower, supplies and money sent into Indonesia to help the muslims after the Tsunami never occured - tho it didn't help to burnish Americas image abroad, some people are just ungrateful

Mr. Kristof would lead us to believe that MR Carters defaming of his own country in the international spotlight has no repercussions

Mr. Kristof would lead us to believe he is as full of shit as the rest of the staff of the NYT which is rotting from the head down

If I wanted to I could go on, but it's not worth it

[Jeff]

"Hey DV, you wanna talk about Carter and leadership and fighting terrorism?"

That had nothing to do with leadership or fighting terrorism. Although Jimmy Carter is a great humanitarian, even though he said, "I ain't helping no hymies!"

[templar knight]

That was suffient, charles, as you more than proved your point. The brainless idiots of the Left who comment here won't get it. The truth is kryptonite to these smaller boys. But invective, well now, they majored in that, and wasted their mommy and daddy's money.

[Bill Adkins]

"We need to look forward, not back." Well, Hell - how would anyone ever be held accountable if the defense is, "We need to look forward, not back." I shot the sheriff but "We need to look forward, not back."

[Oregonian]

"The brainless idiots of the Left who comment here won't get it."

They will, however, have enough brains to spell "sufficient."

[seekeronos]

Excerpted from "The Rules of Liberal Persuasive Debate"

# Rule No. 50244b(3)

"When countered by an intelligent, logical response on an internet discussion that refutes your fallacy-ridden points, resort to picking on minor points of grammar and spelling errors. Anything to impugn the intelligence of your opponent is considered fair game."

To the Spelling Monitor from Oregon:

Of course you can spell "sufficient".

And so can most high-school educated people. But when people get to typing fast, sometimes a letter is missed or three.

Yet for your lack of a crushingly accurate and brutally truthful counterpoint, you've caught TK in the death-grip of spelling correctness. Wow, am I ever in awe of your internetsy-l337 convincing skills!!!11one!

Here you go, here is your cookie. You've earned it, bucko!

[Oregonian]

So now you're saying that TK's note about "the brainless idiots of the Left" was "an intelligent, logical response" covered by your rule?

How silly of me to miss that!

And here I thought it was TK himself who started the game of "impugning the intelligence of opponents."

Your reasoning, seekeronos, is truly dazzling.

[templar knight]

Oregon boy, you know you're just a troll. Why would you come here and expect to be taken seriously? Now scat. We already have our quota of liberal trolls and sock puppets.

[ZZMike]

One of the radio shows here played some of McCain's comments from a few years ago, praising Rumsfeld for doing a good job.

McCain is quickly making himself irrelevant. Missing that vote shows a lack of conviction.

And what a great surprise: the NYT praising Carter. Carter is an embarrassment. His last book - his riddled-with-errors book, his strong anti-Israel stance, his sparing no occasion to bad-mouth the country he once served (and badly, at that) - he's painting himself into a corner he'll never escape.