AP Excludes Kidnapping Suspect's Illegal Status And Past

h/t Jules for this:

The man suspected of kidnapping a 13-year-old boy and leaving him tied to a tree in the woods in a ransom scheme reportedly is an illegal alien who had already been deported once.

Police are searching for Vincente Ignacio Beltran-Moreno, 22, an illegal alien who has already been deported once, in the kidnapping of 13 year old Clay Moore.

Moore was kidnapped at gun point from his school bus stop. Authorities believe it was planned as a ransom attempt, but Moore escaped on his own.

Here is the AP's sanitized version of the suspect's background. I found his picture here.

Beltran, a native of Mexico, had worked at the farm three years ago, but later became a laborer for an aluminum contractor, Bristow said.

And here's what didn't make it into the AP wire report. So much for the public's right to know.

Wells said obtaining the warrants took longer than expected due to the suspected kidnapper's multiple aliases. Beltran-Moreno is an undocumented immigrant who at one time was deported from the United States.

Comments

[Purple Avenger]

"AP Excludes Kidnapping Suspect's Illegal Status And Past"

Real shocker that ;->

[Buzzy]

Is kidnapping children also a job that American's won't do? A fence probably would have helped keep him out after he was deported the first time.

[splashtc]

suicide by cop sounds good for him.

[scarshapedstar]

At first I didn't care that he kidnapped somebody, but now that I know he's a Mexifascist, I'm outraged.

[JustOneMan]

But Dan...he is just one of the many hard working immigrants who comes to this country seeking a better way of life...cant you understand that?

In mexico people arent as wealthy as us Americans, so how is a a poor kidnapper supposed to collect a decent ransom?

JOM

[templar knight]

How many murders are these illegal aliens committing each year, scar? Of course you don't care, just so long as we welcome them. After all, the Dems are voting them in the elections, which is also illegal, but I guess you don't care about that either. The ends justify the means for today's Democrats.

[jerk]

excellent point dan-
one illegal alien does something, so, therefore, all illegal aliens are bad. totally logical. i think that's actually a rule of logic.

[seekeronos]

Not all illegals are bad like this particular piece of scum... but since so many of them seem willing to flout our laws (including but not limited to crossing into our country without proper visas and other documentation) and many seem to have an irredentist agenda of re-establishing thier "Aztlan" as they are radicaliazed by M.E.Ch.A. and related Aztlanist groups...

Fences, minefields and manned machine gun/antivehicle guns sound very good about now.

Add in a few Helos and AC-130 Spectre gunships to lay down some serious firepower on any masssed movements, and that will go a long way to keeping the illegals out of our backyards.

Not to mention deporting the 100,000s of illegal aliens already here who are tied in between Al-Qaeda and M.E.Ch.A. already.

[jerk]

seekeronos is just another example of the completely non-paranoid right wing. i am sure you have plenty of evidence for the apprently hundreds of thousands of al-qaeda linked illegal aliens in america. if there are so many, and you are sure of this, why don't you go find them and report them? I am sure the officials of the bush administration would be very interested to know about this.

as for your aztlan theories, what are your estimated numbers? do you speak spanish? if not, how do you know so much about this?

PARANOID!!!!

[ME]

Because obviously we need to take individual instances of where immigrants have murdered people as conclusive evidence that immigrants are bad. When making policy, its important to ignore the broad implications and focus on specific emotionally charged events to form our opinions. That always makes one's opinion clear and objective.

[Dan Riehl]

First, we're talking "illegal" aliens here, not immigrants sans docs. That's BS. And don't toss out unsupported accusations that I believe all immigrants are bad - I've never said that.

At the same time, "illegals" have already shown a willingness to break our laws - some subset of the total go much further. I'm for a controlled immigration system which affords as many immigrants as we can manage each year to continue to grow our economy - but through a legal system.

Some of you have no appreciation for the harm an open borders policy can do.

[Captain Joe]

It's time to put Pat Buchanan in the White House.

[old trooper]

Please leave your Politics out of this.

The the fact that this thug has no regard for any of our laws should be of interest.

Kidnapping, Murder and extortion are common in Mexico. Go to Nuevo Laredo if you question that.

These thugs are just bringing some aspects of their 'cultural diversity' here.

Get it?

[jerk]

i actually don't get it, old trooper. is the point that if there were no illegal aliens there would be no crime, like in the good old days?

[Erik]

Jerk, you are blind because you choose to be. Flat out statistics have shown that the murders ONLY known to have commited by ILLEGAL aliens (as in, they admitted to them, were caught in the act etc) in this country outnumber the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq. That is fact. Why must you ignore the facts in front of your face? No, there would still be crime if we had no illegals, but it is solid, statistical fact that they are contributing more than than the "average" American to our crime rate. I doubt anyone wants ALL aliens out of our country, but my gosh, as illegals they have already said they cannot care less about our laws. If we went to Mexico and did the things like this thug has done, we would be brutally beaten to death then thrown to the animals to eat.

[Dan Riehlriquez]

"i actually don't get it"

Ese, eeb chu don't gibme teen bucks, I gone delete yo comets, vato. Chu geet eet, now, puta??

[phranqlin]

What a great idea! If a member of an ethnic group commits a crime, we should immediately deport every member of that group back to their country of origin. That'll show them!

A Mexican kidnaps a kid? Send 'em all back across the Rio Grand. An Irish guy kills his wife? Round up all the Irish and ship them back to Ireland. An Indian embezzles $50K from her boss? Put all the Desis on the next flight to Mumbai.

Native Americans would get to stay, though -- where would we send them?

[carsick]

You think it's a cover-up?
The guy is a menace and a threat and is being looked for by authorities. His status seems irrelevant to the story. Unless you also think it's relevant how much money the guy has in the bank, "Why is the AP covering up that the guy is poor?" or that he hasn't paid his parking tickets, "Why is the AP hiding that he's a scofflaw?"

I think his illegal status as a kidnapper is what the story was telling. The rest isn't particularly news under that rubric.

[Dan Riehl]

"Native Americans would get to stay"

If the Native Americans had controlled "their" border, it wouldn't be an issue, now would it? ; )

[jerk]

Erik-
Give me even one link to this unassailable statistical data.

[scarshapedstar]

"How many murders are these illegal aliens committing each year, scar? Of course you don't care, just so long as we welcome them. After all, the Dems are voting them in the elections, which is also illegal, but I guess you don't care about that either. The ends justify the means for today's Democrats."

I'd wager that they commit roughly as many murders as we saintly white folk do. I must admit, though, I'm surprised that Democrats are voting for illegal immigrants in the elections. I didn't even realize they could run!

[Carl Gordon]

The Saga Continues............
When last we left that retard Little Nell, she was running through the jungle, a pack of blood thirsty Zulus with bad body odor nipping at her heels as she had made off with the only known specimen of the often rumored but up until now undiscovered Pew Orchid, unmistakable in it’s putrid essence as it was resplendent in the highly prized but rare state of full turd blossom. The crudely realized spears zipped through the air just like the thought bees in little Nell’s meat sponge, occasionally caroming will-nilly off the sides of large clunky tree trunks and sizable sedimentary boulders scattered throughout the dank jungle flora proper, getting ass-puckering close to poor stupid Little Nell, nearly shitting herself in abject foreboding. Yes, she was being hunted like an egg sucking dog, actually more like a boar which the local indigenous population prized for it’s soft succulent pink meat, but never mind all that, she was being hounded for her insolence towards native custom and pointless societal ritual. In her haste, she wished not only that she had spent more quality time with the natives, establishing a more gracious intercourse with them, but also oddly digging for more info regarding the equally malodorous pigs in the area, and I’m not talking about the tribal chief’s asshole son who tried several times in vein to sneak a look up her pretty orange and green camisole. The savage and wild boar that roamed these tropical forests of Tetiaroa were known for their especially luscious flesh, ease of spit-cooking (a rather gross method by Western standards), and the absolute pain in the ass difficulty of capturing them using any weapon other than native spears carved from jungle bamboo and festooned with spearheads fashioned from shark dicks home-grown in the local waters. Earlier, she had been offered a heaping palm-frond-full plotz of the juicy meat, steaming and attracting squadrons of the local titty flies almost immediately as it was spooned on to the mud-caked and cracked palm leaf, but she was too squeamish at the notion of actually ingesting such a repast covered as it was in the many assorted loogies courtesy of the team of native chefs furiously nattering like nabobs over a stereotypical dark iron cauldron. The wild boars, slightly smaller but demonstrably more fierce then their larger porcine cousins on the atoll, were known for putting up a fierce fight when cornered, especially those that the local village idiot bred for weddings, Bar Mitzvahs, and the quarterly end of the sales cycle. The boars were---and still are---stalked and killed by Tetiaroamian tribesman famed for their unrivaled large members and stalking and killing skills in the South Pacific.

[seekeronos]

Jerk: Yo hablo Español. Pero, es no necesito para este conversacion. Para informacion de "M.E.Ch.A." y otras organizacions de "Aztlan", buscarte a "Google" aqui: ->

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mecha&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html

Sorry if my Spanish is a bit rusty -- it's been a few years since I've needed to speak it frequently.

I've worked with Mexicans plenty of times - while some were here legally and others would scatter like roaches when someone shouted "La Migra!" (INS) ... most are hard-working folk out to make a better life for thier relatives back home. There is nothing wrong with that.

But the flip side of it is exactly as Old Trooper said:

Mexico has a significantly lower cultural barrier than the USA does on the average toward crime, particular ones relating to extortions, bribery, general corruption, murder, prostitution, and a whole ratnest of things tied to the illegal drug trade.

I only advocate deporting the folks who are here past thier visas, or who entered without visas at all.

I am against allowing the "pregnancy smuggling" of migrants who take advantage of our (perhaps too generous) social programs and offer of citizenship to any child that "openeth up the womb" to breathe American air.

The simple fact is, that via the illegal migration issues we have - our population base is rapidly shifting to a Mexican bases that for the most part, feels no particular desire to acclimate and assimilate to American culture, and learn English.

Call it prejudiced if you wish, but foreigners who come here to live should make at least an effort to:

a) do so legally with correct visas and documentation

b) pay taxes while in the employ of American employers

c) not attempt to vote before they become citizens (ordinarily a 5-10 year process)

d) not engage in any criminal activity

e) learn the de facto national language of English.

Otherwise, they are persona non grata in my book - it applies not only to Mexicans and OTMs, but anyone who wishes to make a life in the USA. Most of our ancestors did the same; the rules should not be changed for these folks despite what the hippie traitors who wish to ruin this country say.

Simply put, if we close our borders and deport the other problematic non-citizens who are here past thier welcome (visas) - there will certainly be less opportunity for people to form terror cells (like the 9-11 bombers and various other folks who have been foiled) - and it will nip any plans by MEChista operatives to wreak havoc in the Southwest.

[bloodrage bob]

fascinating, the gyrations the idiot liberals go through to defend their moronic idea that this country shouldn't guard its borders; control its immigration; defend our sovereignty.

i wonder why they do that.

[Hard Right]

i wonder why they do that.

Because they hate America and see it as a way of getting themselves into power. Open borders is a good way to bring America down and the left knows it.

[Devil's Advocate]

Our Dan, ever the clever statistician, takes a sample of 1 to test his hypothesis that illegals are prone to crime. Brilliant, Dan! You should submit this to a first-tier criminology journal.

[jerk]

always the hippy traitors ruining the country. i know. i think you do make a point about needing to learn english, but i think this is a gradual process. i know many second generation mexicans and they all speak english.

i object somewhat, however, to your characterization of latinos as somehow genetically pre-disposed towards crime and violence, and stating that they run like "cockroaches," when some yells "la migra." sounds a little racist, but call me crazy.

don't you think that maybe you are a little paranoid about mecha and aztlan? you are that afraid of a self=proclaimed student movement? is it actually realistic to think "they" are going to take it back from the White Man, which is what you are afraid of, obviously? come on...

did you take a look at the first link that pops up on your google search? you will surprised by what you find:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha

[templar knight]

Haha! Good try, scar, but voting them and voting for them are two different concepts. I know, it's tough for you. As for the murders, it's one thing for the "saintly white folk" who are born and raised here and quite another for thugs who illegally cross the border to commit murders, or was that concept too large for you to wrap your mind around, too?

And you are so concerned about 3,000 guys killed in Iraq, but could care less about 3,000 killed by illegal aliens. You are a complete idiot.

[jerk]

guys killed in iraq and people murdered in US have nothing to do with each other and are completely unrelated. i'm just saying...

[BobInStamford]

What do you people have against illegal labor? They have their own waiting areas here. I've used them many times over the years for various projects. They do good work and the price is right!

[seekeronos]

Jerk:

I'm quite concerned that the Aztlanis wish to "take thier land back". Not that it is thier land to claim - it was purchased in part, and ceded in part, by the Treaty of Hildago Guadaulpe in the 1840s at the close of the Mexican-American war.

The land purchase was in lieu of making Mexico pay extensive reparations for the war, which at the time, was the victor's right to exact.

But that was nearly 160 years ago; those lands have been more than thoroughly incorporated into states, counties, cities and other settlements as US territory. Any claims to these lands by MEChA or any other irredentist groups is not backed up by treaty law or by history.

Yet the Dhimmicretins (Democrats) who seem hellbent on destroying America for thier elitist "enlightened" goals... are bending over backwards to accomodate these illegal aliens and hand them the franchise (the vote) in order to stuff the ballots for thier side.

The only way the elitocrats can really manage to overthrow the will of the majority of Americans is sneaking in as many illegal immigrants, felons, and other people who they can deceive into going to the ballots - believing that the Dems are "the Party of the People".

As for your claims of racism - I never said that Latinos are "genetically pre-disposed towards crime and violence" - but history seems to show a pattern of a cultural propensity for tolerating it.

Look at the time of the Mexican Revolution of 1910 - one of the bloodiest periods of Mexican History... 300,000–2,000,000 people dead, and many not directly as casualaties of open, organized warfare.

[DoorMart]

First, all illegal aliens are breaking the law...so drop the "innocent" part. They abuse the rights of LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who abide by the laws of our land

Also....liberals seem to ignore the fact that Mexico is doing nothing more than "ethnic cleansing" of its mestizo and Indian populations. Note how few white GringoMex come across the border. It is Mexico who is "deporting" people...America has the right to "re-patriate" them.

Any US business who hires an illegal over an American should be thrown in jail, and its business seized and given to an American who will hire Americans. Repeat violators should be deported along with the illegals.

I hope they catch this illegal alien kidnapper...but Mexico wont deport him. They bitch about our Border Patrol and Dog Chapman, but those dirtbags running Mexico will not send their fleeing criminals back to the US

It is anti-American for anyone to value the rights of illegal aliens over those of US citizens.

[Devil's Advocate]

Anyone has reliable statistics (i.e. DOJ, FBI...) about crimes committed by illegal immigrants as compared to both resident aliens (legal immigrants) and citizens? (By the way, being illegal is not a "crime" in legal jargon; it is a minor offense).

Also, can someone explain to me why it is that American citizens or legal residents do not want to pick fruit and vegetables when the season comes? Many fruit and vegetable farmers who would comply with immigration laws would not be able to pick their entire crop in time to ship it off to supermarkets for lack of available manual labor (thereby raising the price they demand for their crop and making them uncompetitive versus produce coming from other countries), if they did not hire illegal labor. There is a huge shortage of labor in seasonal farming.

If Americans or legal residents think they are above these kinds of jobs and prefer to collect welfare rather than earning an honest pay for their labor, what are the farmers to do?

There is a real penury of labor for these kinds of jobs. They are hard and they pay little. If Americans do not want to do them, but illegal immigrants are willing, what is your beef? You should be yelling about the lazy American slobs who do not want to get off their lazy asses and who collect welfare -- paid for by the taxpayer --. Or is it O.K. to be a lazy slob and live off welfare if you happen to be an American citizen?

[Evil Progressive]

Dan just cannot help himself. He is a racist through and through. It is actually funny seeing a white man -- presumably middle-class -- being so afraid of dirt-poor Mexicans...

What's with you, Dan dearie? Why do these people threaten you so much that you have to rant against Mexicans based on the bad acts of one? This guy is a creep and a criminal, and must be captured and put on trial and in jail.

But why does he frighten you so much that you are extending your fears and hatred towards all Mexicans? Did some Mexican woman turn you down? Did she mock the size and hardness of your so-called virile member?

[bloodrage bob]

equally valid questions could be asked of you, evil. dearie. why are you so breathlessly enamored of mexican illegals? did a wetback kid beat you up once and put the fear of god in you? so much so that you've been shilling for them ever since? did he mock the size and shape of your sad little member?

is that it? or are you a female? filled with aching, longing lust for the illegal gardener sweating so profusely in his wifebeater t-shirt? it's so naughty! daddy would be so angry!

is THAT it?

[Dan Riehl]

"is THAT it?"

I won't even engage the idiot's false allegation. Now that I think about it, having dated both a Portuguese and a Columbian women, each for some length of time, a Mexican gal might not be so bad! ; )_

As for EP - probably saw West Side Story as a kid and loves hispanics because they can dance. And whatever happened to the Puerto Ricans, anyway? I grew up with a Puerto Rican friend, those poor people have been shoved to the back of the bus by the illegal Mexicans.

[Devil's Advocate]

Both BLOODRAGEBOB (sic!) and our Dan are avoiding the hard questions. Why is it, dearies, that there is a seasonal penury of farmhands to pick vegetables and fruits? Why is it that able-bodied -- and otherwise unemployed -- American CITIZENS do not come forward to fill up jobs that would pay them the minimum wage? If you do not want illegals in this country who are willing to work their asses off for less than the minimum wage, then force the American citizen BUMS on welfare to take those jobs at the guaranteed minimum wage, or else they lose their taxpayer-funded benefits. End of story.

[Hard Right]

Devil, they aren't coming out of the woodwork because unless they are willing to work for less than the minimum wage, they won't be hired. Even then they probably wouldn't be hired since they actually have rights.

As for jobs that pay minimum wage, they are meant to be entry level, unskilled jobs. Not life long careers. You do hit on a good point tho. Some Americans don't want to work. They'd rather sit on their butts and hope for a handout from the left.

I have no problem with legal immigration. We need to secure our borders. The border with Mexico is far too porous in this day and age of terrorism.

[Edward]

http://www.predatoryaliens.com/index.htm

[Evil Progressive]

Evidently, Hard Right, you are not acquainted with the laws of supply and demand. Farmers demand labor and will pay whatever is necessary to get the labor they need to pick up their crop -- up to a maximum. If the wages that are demanded are higher than the marginal cost of picking up the crops is, the farmers will do without it, and absorb the lost sales. That is the theory.

Now, why is it that farmers cannot find labor to pick up their crops? Why are Americans citizens not willing to work in the fields? Why is it that they have to resort to hiring illegals to pick up the crops? Because a lot of Americans think that welfare is their God-given right and they do not want to be caught dead doing back-breaking work. Because the idiots think it is below them to actually earn a living, no matter how small.

[templar knight]

And your solution, EP, is to allow more illegal aliens into the country. Two wrongs make a right, huh? Yet I know that these illegals get here, work for a couple of years, have babies, use the babies to gain benefits, and I could go on. But there are always more illegals at the gate pushing their way in. What do you think might be the limit? Some experts think there are 250 million people hoping to come to the US illegally. How do you propose to pay for the education, welfare and healthcare for all these people? You have no plan, just let 'em come, huh? Great. This is a recipe for disaster, and I think you know it. You want a disaster for some reason, I just can't figure out why.

[Devil's Advocate]

Tenplar Night,

Fine! How do you get American citizens to get off their lazy asses and pick fruit and vegetables for a living instead of living off welfare? Let us hear about your solution!

[Phoenix]

Why not get prisoners out there to pick the fruit. A nice fruit gang.

[phranqlin]

Part of the problem with illegal immigration is that America's LEGAL immigration system is not working as well as it should. The farm labor shortage is a case in point. Farmers can't afford to pay Americans enough to do this kind of labor (for whatever reason) and still stay competitive with foreign products. It's getting more difficult and expensive for illegal immigrants to sneak into the United States. Because of this, they no longer want to work at low-wage, dirty jobs like farm labor, either, and have gravitated towards meat packing, construction, etc., which pay substantially more. Result: not enough laborers to pick the fruit crop. However, if the United States had a better system for issuing and enforcing temporary work visas, seasonal farm jobs could be filled legally by workers who'd then have to return to Mexico after their jobs were done. Stepped-up enforcement of visas, reforms in immigration law, crackdowns on employers who hire illegal immigrants, and better border security would all be part of this solution.

[David]

Young Republicans, enlist in the U.S. Army today. As you may have heard, the U.S. military is running low on soldiers to send to the central front in the Global War On Terror, Iraq. Thousands or even tens of thousands of you may die. But just think of the glory of dying for your President. If you support your President, you must enlist. To not do so is high treason to the very ideals you stand for. Show the world that we do have the 'stomach' for war. Give the President the tools necessary to win, your body. Call or write your congressman today and urge them to reject the Murtha 'slow bleed' plan that would guarantee proper training, rest, and equipment for soldiers before going into combat. You, as a Young Republican, are already trained, rested, and equiped to fight our mortal Iraqi enemy. Remember, if you do not enlist to fight them in Iraq, they will come to your home town and fight in your front yard. No time to wait!!!! Enlist today!!!

[bloodrage bob]

"fell in love with the thrillingly dangerous swarthy guys from 'west side story' ".

heh. good on yer, riehl.