A Message To Mahmoud

Update: Also read this:

If they follow through on the deals announced recently, it is estimated that countries like the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Oman and Saudi Arabia will spend up to $60 billion this year. The biggest buyer in 2006, according to the defense industry journal Defense News, was Saudi Arabia, which has agreed to buy 72 Eurofighter Typhoon combat jets for $11 billion. It also has a $400 million deal to upgrade 12 Apache AH-64A helicopters to the Longbow standard. The kingdom also reportedly plans to acquire cruise missiles, attack helicopters and tanks, all for a total of $50 billion.

It's either a message to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or the mullahs behind him - the world, including other Arab states, doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Three Arab states in the Persian Gulf would be willing to allow the Israel Air force to enter their airspace in order to reach Iran in case of an attack on its nuclear facilities, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyasa reported on Sunday.

According to the report, a diplomat from one of the gulf states visiting Washington on Saturday said the three states, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates, have told the United States that they would not object to Israel using their airspace, despite their fear of an Iranian response.

Israel denies the report at the bottom and I imagine the Arab states will as well. But we're getting along on the path of confrontation if governments are resorting to alleged leaks like this to get Iran to back off its nuclear program.

Ahmadinejad remains defiant. Rice vows to stop Iran's program. Iran launches another test rocket. And a meeting in London tomorrow will help shape the next step.

The initial report above on the Arab states and over flight rights is probably meant to send a message to China and Russia, too. The fear of more military action in the gulf might help get them to agree to stronger sanctions.

Senior representatives of the six nations were to meet at London's Foreign Office to discuss how to respond to Iran's failure to respect a U.N. deadline to halt its uranium enrichment work.

Comments

[Zifnab]

I think the real message is to Boeing and Raytheon. And that message is *cha-ching!*

Finally, after years of exporting McDonalds and The Gap, we can start exporting the real top dollar stuff - Military Grad Death Machines. We just need to get Detroit to stop making Hummers for recreational use. (hehe. Hummers for recreational use. That's hot.)

[Purple Avenger]

You'd rather Rosoboron get the business?

[Jeff]

Can't we just bomb them already? At least before they turn Israel into a hole in the ground?

Even after Reichkristalnacht the world would not act. It took far too long to act then, and its taking far too long now.

Ahmedinejad = Gerbel
Khameni = Hitler

[old trooper]

Just a note: Hummers carry neither the necessary ordinance for the mission, nor are they fast enough on entry or exit of the target area.

Reliance on the EU, UN or NATO to recognize the Threat in timely fashion is sheer fantasy.

"Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates, have told the United States that they would not object to Israel using their airspace, despite their fear of an Iranian response."

"Saudi Arabia, which has agreed to buy 72 Eurofighter Typhoon combat jets for $11 billion. It also has a $400 million deal to upgrade 12 Apache AH-64A helicopters to the Longbow standard. The kingdom also reportedly plans to acquire cruise missiles, attack helicopters and tanks, all for a total of $50 billion."

It seems the the folks in the Region, folks that know the Region,may know Iran`s intentions, the same ones that Israel has already percieved.

Should We Bomb Iran?

Nope. No way would the newly annointed allies of extermist Islam in the US Senate or House allow anything that smart. They are stuck in the 70`s and have not a clue about this century. They are trying to resurect LBJ`s Great Society, impeach Nixon or whoever the President is and are busy figuring out how to raise taxes to generate funds to throw out there for votes, like Mardi Gras Beads to win the 2008 election so they can do a little socialist social engineering here in the US.

Real World issues escape them.

Let Israel take on the mission.

[Zifnab]

See, if only we could rename the Middle East as the Balkins, I promise that no one here would hold any of these lofty opinions.

[Phoenix]

It has always been the plan to let Israel do the bombing. Our purpose was to create the air space for them and to get our own presence there, as well.

Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates are almost more modern than we are. We are their best business partners. Thinking that they might sit back and let Iran take over the area is laughable. Capitalism wins again. Saudi Arabia is not 'modern' culturally, but it wants to keep what it has intact, and that means doing business with us. As for China, I wonder how much grand business they can do with Iran to uphold the world's fastest growing economy? That answers itself. As for Russia, who knows. They don't seem able to know which way the wind is blowing.

[Dan Riehl]

Yep, I think we're just there for protection. Iran gets a final go round to back off, or Israel may well hit them by summer.

[Mullah Cimoc]

Mullah Cimoc say too much jack bauer tv show make ameriki so stupid for hate the muslim, loving the torture, bow down for masters in tel aviv.

this all rupert murdoch tv show man mind control this way.
This evil doing for usa media , now control so few company. Benjamin Frankling not like this not free press now in usa amerika.

for please now google: mighty wurlitzer +cia

then aemriki people know not free press in usa now. just keep the ameriki so stupid for serve the master in tel aviv.

[Dan Riehl]

lol

[Phoenix]

Hey, Mullah. Did you know your name spelled backwards is "COMIC". Cool.

[LOL]

i love the hitler comparisons, so these conservatives losers can inflate their egos about shit. Stop it with the damned hitler comparisons, these guys do not have the power of a german army behind them. Ok? And you are not some fucking hero for typing out really strong messages on wingnut websites. If you really feel they are as bad as hitler you shoudl be serving in the army, anything less is just you being a pussy let's face it.

It's like you tards can now longer do proper cost-benefit analysis. Sure there's a benefit to bombing Iran, but that's all you idiots put into your calculus anymore. Why? Because almost all of you would never serve in any kind of army despite all the "hitler", "treason", and "appeasement" sophistry you fling around.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece

This is what you get if you attack Iran. Hmm... maybe you know these generals might know something you tards dont?

[Hard Right]

LOL, you're in no position to call anyone a Tard, coward, or pussy, Mr. Only Brave Behind a Keyboard. The fact you are so stung by being called an appeaser and traitor tells us the truth hurts. Lastly, if you can't understand the threat of a nuclear Iran, you are worse than retarded. The retarded at least have an excuse for their position.

[LOL]

oh so you're going to sign up then i assume

[Hard Right]

Right after you put yourself on the line and go to Iraq to push for peace. After all, if you support peace you have to go to Iraq and help to end the "civil war".

BTW retard, here's something you didn't bother to learn.

First, as McQ at QandO points out, commanders serve in the field, and staff officers serve in the Pentagon. If in fact there exists a coterie of staff officers who will resign rather than follow orders, they are not commanders in the military sense, at least not now. Troops will not be left leaderless. Secondly, there are hundreds if not thousands of staff officers at the Pentagon. The resignation of six will be noteworthy but hardly representative of the morale at the Pentagon, as the Times claims in this piece.

[LOL]

I'm not pushing for peace, just pushing for the USA to spend its resources in a smarter manner. For example, the reason Iran's nuclear ambitions are basically inevitable is in part because the Bush administration choose to spend its resources in Iraq, a foolish decision.

Again if this threat is worth dying for (your argument) then you should be risking your own life. Your actions indicate how much you value the war.

[Hard Right]

Here's more about your so called storry.

“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said. “There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”

So we have at least three layers of anonymity between us and the story's headline. Unknown American officers allegedly have told unknown counterparts in British military or intelligence circles that they will resign, and these unidentified persons allegedly passed the word to an anonymous "source with close ties to British intelligence." There is a word for this sort of fourth-hand information. It's called a "rumor."

Apart from references to other news stories, the Times quotes just one person by name: Hillary Mann, who repeats her oft-stated fear that the Bush administration intends to provoke an armed confrontation with Iran. Mann and her husband are both career bureaucrats who quit their jobs in a huff because the administration wasn't following their preferred course of negotiating a "grand bargain between the United States and the Islamic Republic." You can read about their battle against the administration on the Democratic Party's web site.

[templar knight]

The Democratic Party's web site? Maybe that is where the rumor started, Hard Right. Nothing these Democrats do surprises me any more.

Oh, and LOL is now, and get this, "not pushing for peace", when Hard Right called him on his stupid "you have to serve in Iraq meme". Brilliant, HR!

[LOL]

why? creating peace in the middle east is so pie-in-the-sky its not even funny. I don't have to go over to Iraq. But again, if you're not willing to serve, what does that say about how much you value attacking iraq or iran? Says you don't think it's worth it in my opinion.

[Phoenix]

In my opinion, if you're not ready to give birth, you better quit boinking your wife, LOL.

[LOL]

your analogy doesn't make sense. Men are not capable of giving birth. You are capable of joining the army. Try again dipshit.

[Phoenix]

My analogy makes as much sense as yours does, dipshit.