Pelosi Caught Lying? I Think So

The latest spin Nancy Pelosi is putting on the politics around the Iraq War appears to be nothing but misinformation, if not an outright lie.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday that President George W. Bush did not consult her before announcing his new strategy for the war in Iraq — a sign that, despite the cozy rhetoric, the relationship between Washington's two powerhouses has already had its share of friction.

Really? Flashback to December 8th while Bush was formulating his new strategy for Iraq:

President Bush also met this morning with Democratic and Republican leadership of Congress and discussed the need for a new way forward in Iraq and the important of working together.  He thanked them for a "constructive conversation" but did not mention the Baker-Hamilton report.

The President emphasized an open door policy with the 110th Congress, and thanked outgoing Majority Leader Frist and Speaker Hastert for their service.

Just under thirty days later on January 6th, and a week before Bush made his announcement, Pelosi and Reid made their sentiments known in an effort described as an attempt to pre-empt his plan.

Pelosi was consulted, Bush simply didn't give in, as Pelosi made it clear from the start there was no room for negotiation. So what exactly is it San Fran Nanny is crying about now? Apparently nothing, maybe she just likes to whine.

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid yesterday declared that "it is time to bring the war to a close," and warned President Bush that sending more U.S. troops to Iraq would be unacceptable to the Democratic majorities that have just taken over Congress.

Directly challenging Mr. Bush's wartime leadership on their second day in charge on Capitol Hill, the two Democratic leaders, Ms. Pelosi of California and Mr. Reid of Nevada, sent Mr. Bush a letter suggesting that, instead of a short-term escalation, he begin a phased withdrawal of U.S. forces in the next four to six months. The mission of remaining troops, they said, should be shifted away from combat toward more training, logistics and counterterrorism.

The newly ascendant Democrats are trying to pre-empt the president even before he announces his new strategy. As he prepares for a nationally televised address next week,

Comments

[Capitalist Infidel]

you mean a democrat lied? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell ya!

[diana]

Dave,

I asked you these questions on Highclearing, but you never came back, after slandering Jim Webb.

So I'll ask you here:

Why should Americans die for the SCIRI?

[Jon G]

When she says consult, she means the literal meaning of it: to deliberate together.

Bush has pretty much said it's my way or the highway. There's no consultation there.

Guess what? His fellow Republicans keep peeling off. Pretty soon he and you will be the only ones left in America that support this brain-dead war.

[Jon G]

Speaking of lies: http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/priraqclaimfact1029.htm

[Sherlock]

The nightmare scenario in Iraq for Republicans a terroist victory.

The nightmare scenario in Iraq for Democrats is an American victory.

When you think about it, it's elementary.

[Phoenix]

The real nightmare is defeat. It is equal-opportunity for all parties - when you think about it.

[sglover]

THIS is your complaint? Bush waves aside the advice of EVERYBODY in DC (including lifetime members of HIS OWN PARTY party who try to craft a face-saving path for him), and your trump card is that Pelosi had a little confab WEEKS ago, when the Idiot Prince himself probably didn't know what kind of "plan" he'd present. Why the hell did you bother to post this, did Solitaire crash? Paltry, petty, pathetic

....Which means it suits you, lickspittle.

[Bill Adkins]

What new strategy? There IS no new strategy. You cannot distinguish what is happening today from what happened 3 months ago or 6 months ago. This is more of the same old shit from Bush. He's stay on course and stuck on stupid. George W. Bush is a military idiot.

[Purple Avenger]

Funny thing about constitutional power of presidents is they CAN ignore advice if they believe it to be worthless.

[Phoenix]

PA. :)

But does anyone actually know the strategy? Nope. We'll watch it unfold. Just like we're supposed to. What stupid fools would pass out the strategy for the American public and the press so the enemy would have access to it?

God, people are so stupid.

[ApplePie]

Funny thing about constitutional power of presidents is they CAN ignore advice if they believe it to be worthless.
-Purple Avenger

Anybody can ignore advice they believe to be worthless. But thanks for stating an obvious right of any individual, moron. The problem with Bushy is that he is not intelligent enough to know what good advice looks like. Most likely because he can't comprehend words greater than three syllables and is only familiar with military terms concerning AWOL.

[sglover]

"But does anyone actually know the strategy? Nope. We'll watch it unfold. Just like we're supposed to. What stupid fools would pass out the strategy for the American public and the press so the enemy would have access to it?"

Yeah, Clausewitz. Among those in the dark about it is its alleged architect, Kagan, who's on record as saying that first 80,000, then 50,000, now about 20,000 (coincidentally, just about the number that could be scraped up) troops would be "required" for the "surge". Sounds like it's really been thought through -- just like every other "strategy" that's been tossed out to date.

But you believe what you want, little Caesar. A year from now, when the things have gone down the sewer, you and this moron Riehl and like-minded keyboard commandos will be whining about how Petraeus, today's hero of the hour, "failed" your pygmy fuhrer. You'll turn on him like you turned on Zinni, Shinseki, the State Department's in-house intelligence arm, Kerry, Webb, and soon, I expect, General Casey and Senator Hagel.

[Scrapiron]

I doubt that the dhimmi's can read but everyone should send them a copy of the constitution anyway. I truly love to watch the monkeys on the left trying to get their own families killed. Wake up idiots, we didn't declare war on them. They declared war on us and have vowed to continue until they kill everyone of us. I'm glad the lefties are too cowardly to serve in the military. They wouldn't have to cut and run, they'd throw down their weapons and beg for mercy as the Islamic fanatics chopped their heads off and get everyone in the unit slaughtered. That part I really like and encourage. Chop off the cowards heads. Keep putting it off and we'll see if the next president has the guts of Truman and unleashed a massive nuclear strike to save the live of millions of Americans, including the worthless dhimmi's. It isn't hype, it's coming, do or die.

[sglover]

And you're enlisting *when*, scrapiron?

[Bill Adkins]

Constitutional power is something alright - it includes the power to impeach presidents. And I, among millions of others, am looking forward to it.

[Bill Adkins]

What we have here is Bush's bunker mentality. "My generals have betrayed me!!" I wonder if Laura will play the part of Eva at the end?

[sglover]

"What we have here is Bush's bunker mentality. 'My generals have betrayed me!!' I wonder if Laura will play the part of Eva at the end?"

I believe that Cher Condi is hoping for that role....

[Bill Maron]

Looks like sglover is real free with name calling from the safety of his keyboard. Can't he present ideas sans insults or is so filled with BDS that the drool just dribbles on his shirt and increases his rage?
Bush won't be impeached. Unlike Clinton, he hasn't broken a law. Adkins is another typical BDS sufferer with his Hitler comparisons and delusions of impeachment. If you don't like the way the war is being prosecuted, come up with a plan...Oh wait! That would mean THINKING. All we have from Dems is withdraw withraw withdraw, excuse me, redeploy redeploy redeploy. I don't like to see our men and women killed over there but every soldier(the ones in uniform for you lefties who have never spoken to one) I've talked to wants to complete the mission. For our own future they need to.

[yyy]

The new strategy: It's All Iran's Fault
Iran is an Iminant Threat
Iran Has WMD
Iran Wants To Nuke Us

See, all he did was replace "Iraq" with "Iran" in the playbook the first time around.

It remains to be seen if the media sheep and the public sheep will believe this latest nonsensical new strategy or see it for what it is, the oldest trick in the book: the shell game.

Bush is just moving the target--victory--out from under the Iraq shell becuase everyone has told him it is a failure and moved it under the Iranian shell. Never in my life did I think that it wold be the United States that was the bellicose, aggressor who upped the ante in order to get a war that it wanted.

[Bill Maron]

yyy,
We still aren't. Iran has been attacking us through proxies(Hizbollah for one) since the 80's. They have said they want to destroy us since the 80's. Those Iranian Guards troops in Iraq aren't on vacation. The dems are the ones moving the little pea.

[Bill Adkins]

"Adkins is another typical BDS sufferer with his Hitler comparisons and delusions of impeachment. If you don't like the way the war is being prosecuted, come up with a plan...Oh wait! That would mean THINKING."

Mason - read below - then take your foot out of your mouth and start THINKING:

"Let's quit sniping, fun though it might be, and talk seriously. No, we should never have gone to Iraq - there were too many real targets. That said, we have to deal with Iraq now. I think partition is the only option with any chance of success. This 'surge' is just more 'stay the course' and stay the course is stuck on stupid. Split it up, give the Kurds there portion (they've got things under control, by the way - no IEDs there), put our puppets in charge of the oil and keep them supplied. How about it? BTW, wasn't Petraeus that general on 'Planet of the Apes?'

Posted by: Bill Adkins | Wednesday, January 24, 2007 at 10:38 PM "
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/01/what_has_sandy_.html

[Bill Adkins]

By the way, that's just a recent posting of something proposed to the moron in chief for quite along time. And the comparison to Hitler was not to call Bush a Nazi but to reference the last days of a cornered rat. Best I can do for you, Maron - sharpen your crayons next time.

[Bill Adkins]

By the way, that's just a recent posting of something proposed to the moron in chief for quite along time. And the comparison to Hitler was not to call Bush a Nazi but to reference the last days of a cornered rat. Best I can do for you, Maron - sharpen your crayons next time.

[winoceros]

Jon G
Your silly web link is a sad commentary on liberal logic. What items are omitted from its "fact" columns are the very things that real blogs and researchers spend their time trying to bring to public attention. Just because A does not equal B, does not mean it doesn't equal the MIA C, D or E. Didn't they teach you anything at your federally-funded school?