Most conservatives acknowledge what a failure the Bush 41 foreign relations position turned out to be as regards the Middle East. If the President really is going to turn the Middle east over to his Daddy's guys, then I hope they do impeach him He's over and doesn't even know it.
Whatever else he may bring to his new job at the Pentagon, Robert Gates apparently holds a view on the highly sensitive subject of relations with Iran that hasn’t been embraced by all his new colleagues in the Bush administration.
At a White House news conference, President Bush made the stunning announcement that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is departing, to be replaced by Gates. That announcement will immediately focus attention on the views held by Gates, a longtime Washington national security hand who was a leading adviser to President Bush’s father during the first war with Iraq.
If we negotiate with Syria and Iran so we can exit Iraq, Bush is going to be played like a fiddle and the GWOT gets set back a decade.
If that is his direction, he should just turn the whole damned thing over to Harriet Miers and be done with it. Go hunting with Cheney, or something a little more safe than negotiating with regimes that want only your destruction.
The rumors of Bolton leaving aren't good news, either. But the reality is he'd never get confirmed. Are we entering the era of Cut and Run? I hope not. But it sure is starting to look that way.
Update: Yes, the impeachment drumbeat begins. Another area I think Bush is ripe to be played. He'll compromise to get a few things done, for which the Dems will get credit. And before you know it, the headlines will begin ... the drumbeat of corruption building right up to the next election, if they don't actually take him out. If Bush thinks the Dems are going to stop because they won Congress, he's incredibly naive.
But the groundwork is being laid. Former Brooklyn Rep. Liz Holtzman is hawking a book outlining how to impeach President Bush:


Let's hope he's running to daddy.
What is going to take to wake you up to the fact that Bush's polices are bankrupt, for whatever reason the people he has surrounded himself with and the strategies he has chosen to pursue in regard to the ME and the 'war' on 'terror' and the Iraq invasion have failed to produce results.
Closing your eyes and shouting 'traitor, traitor, traitor' isn't going to change the reailty.
If you want the Republicans to win in 08 you should be hugely relieved that somebody seems to have advised the President that reality has finally intruded on his long dream. He can declare victory all he wants, but war is something that is either won or lost in the real world not the press release Karl Rove world of spin.
Posted by: yyy | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 11:49 AM
It's so much fun watching y'all fall on your Dear Leader like the Hyenas at the end of "The Lion King".
Please keep it up; very entertaining.
Posted by: salvage | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 11:56 AM
Meh not much is going to change. Since the displeasure with the war in Iraq something had to be done. So Rumsfeld out and Robert Gates in. In the end I don't think all that much will change.
Posted by: Ryan | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 12:34 PM
This charge is insulting. I hope the President has the good sense to use the cumulative knowledge of our eleder statesmen and those who will bring some maturity of thought to the table. This governing by Malkin/Kristol columns obviously lost us the House and now the Senate. The selfish spoiled brats have been sent home to Mama and now we have a chance to clean up the messes they made and left for the President to deal with for the next two years. Thank God we have a President who has a well of elder statesman he can call on and who he can trust to have both the country's and his own best interests at heart. Bob Gates is brilliant, James Baker is brilliant, Bush 41 is no slouch and he certainly has Bush 43's best interest in his heart. How many Presidents in their 6th year can gather around him in his inner circle two former CIA Directors, a current and former Secretary of State, a former Vice President and President of the United States, former Chief of Staff, former Congressman, former Ambassador to China, university president and provost, a decade or better of national security agency experience, military service, wartime experience, former Secretary of the Treasury? I'm sure I've left something out, but I defy anyone to think turning down all that experience by any leader would be the smart thing to do, especially when you consider that it all resides withing the brains of 4 individuals: George H.W. Bush, James Baker, Condi Rice and Dr. Robert Gates.
I am so angry at the rightwing of my Party. I blame them entirely for this loss and the damage coming down the pike. I want to say I told you so and you reap what you sow, but the damage is going to be so catastrophic to our military and to this country, I shudder instead. So, thank God that President Bush has these elder statesmen. Denigrating this is so small-minded.
Posted by: Sara (Squiggler) | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Denigrating this is so small-minded.
If you think appeasing our enemies is large-minded, then you haven't been paying attention for two decades.
Posted by: Dan Riehl | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 12:56 PM
You, my friend, are an out of touch loser.
Loser!
Posted by: Yo-Yo Mamayo@yomama.com | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 01:00 PM
"Impeach for peace"?
Are you seriously so deluded to think that all the troubles in the world is because the US has a foreign policy? With our meddlesome stick-pinning the world would live in group-hug harmony?
At least be honest, call it "Impeach for a Pound of Flesh".
Posted by: rwilymz | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 01:23 PM
Jodin - you're a fool to think that Representative Pelosi will even consider your ridiculous childish idea of impeachment. Moderates and independents won this election - it was not the Far Left who took home the election.
Rep. Pelosi will never ever go down the road of impeachment despite the cries of those like you. Impeachment investigations and proceedings would get in the way of governing and proving that the Democratic Party can lead. The Democrats have two years to prove that they are mature enough to take residence in the White House and as a moderate (centrist) I can assure you that others like me will be watching. If the the Democrats decide to squander these two years in revenge investigations to placate nutjobs like Kos, DUers and impeachment organizations like the one you are a cheerleader for then they will be sent home again and the White House will be completely out of their grasps.
Posted by: Diva | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 01:23 PM
I deleted Jodin - I' dont want that DU nonsense trolled here.
Posted by: Dan Riehl | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 01:25 PM
I do not think appeasing our enemies should even be a choice on the table. But, this childish "my way or the highway" attitude is far more dangerous. I think foreign policy is diplomacy backed up by a very big stick. We are in the process of using the big stick and trying our darnedest to avoid the necessity of using it again and again. I do not think that having a foreign policy of "big stick" or nothing is a workable policy. I don't think the President thinks it is either. I don't think keeping Harriet Miers from a hearing or insisting on a fence or no immigration policy at all is anything even close to being reasonable or makes people who advocated these things worthy of having a voice at the table. Listening to those in the swamp is as dangerous as listening to this "my way only" being advocated on the ultra-conservative right is.
There is no diplomacy that is going to help with extremists. They are not interested in talking. Our only policy with them should be total annihilation. They only understand strength and power. However, we must recognize that there are sovereign nations involved and we cannot dictate their foreign policy. We must persuade the leaders of those countries to join with us in defeating these enemies to the entire world, not continue to sit back in their dhimmitude. Generals and grunts are not the ones to do this convincing.
The biggest problem, and what your post reflects to a tee, is the one that implies that President Bush is too dumb to be President. The far right believes this every bit as much as those infesting the swamps. It is arrogant, it is elitist, and it is very very wrong and an extremely perilous position to take. I'll take a dozen seasoned Jim Bakers and Bob Gates on the job over even one of these elitists who couldn't find a big stick or a diplomatic solution if it was served to them on a silver platter.
We need to be negotiating treaties with the new sovereign government in Iraq for permanent bases there to protect against the coming attacks from Iran and/or Syria. We need to have good relations with Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Israel and others to effectively counter the dangers posed by Iran and Syria and al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and Hamas. We need to have good relations, where we actually come to common ground, with countries like Russia, Japan, China, and throughout Europe to protect against the dangers of Muslim Extremists and the threat of a nuclear North Korea or Iran. We use the stick against the offending countries and entities, and we use diplomacy to deal with the rest. You don't get much better than Jim Baker. You don't get as much lifetime experience than Bush 41, and you aren't going to find a better analytical mind than Dr. Gates. The campaign is over and it is time to get down to business. I don't like the outcome of the election, but it is the hand we are now forced to play and I'd rather be holding 4 Aces. We cannot afford, nor can our brave men and women in uniform afford to have appeasers or short-sighted elitists running the show. We need maturity and experience at the table. We need the Reagan Doctrine not the Jimmah Carter doctrine. It is too bad that both the left and the neo-right don't get it. We need people in charge that have already paid their dues and aren't beholden to getting more lineage or more links in the press or the blogosphere. We need people who aren't interested in popularity contests. We need winners. We need people who understand that winners find ways to win, whether through a hail Mary pass or slugging it out one yard at a time. What counts is the end of the day and who is still standing with the victory in hand. George Bush understands winning and so do his father, Jim Baker, and Bob Gates. They know how to play in the mud and still make progress toward the goal.
Posted by: Sara (Squiggler) | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 02:41 PM
Cut N Run
Nixon
Cut N Run
Reagan
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 03:29 PM
I don't want Bush impreached. Where's the fun in that?
Better to watch him twist slowly...slowly...in the wind.
For a long, long, long time.
Winning is fun.
Posted by: BigWinner | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 04:42 PM
I don't want Bush impreached
Posted by: BigWinner | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 04:42 PM
Public school?
Posted by: Cindi | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 08:39 PM
Any attempt at impeachment would be the biggest travesty in this country since the attempt to impeach Clinton. The Democrats are foolish if they try.
Posted by: WWU | Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 10:13 PM
The only impeachment rhetoric I'm seeing are from the Right-wing blogs and pundits and a whole heck-of-a-lot of it. They want the Democrats to try so bad, they can taste it. Let Bush Jr. fight the defiant fight against the elitists through an impeachment process? That little draft-dodging pansy is on a very tight leash right now. He's at the mercy of the Democrats but even worse, the remaining Republicans are massively pissed at him. The GOP lost the House, the Senate, a majority of state leadership positions and a majority of state legislation positions. This loss was massive that the GOP will be feeling for years. Why impeach when you can control?
Let Right-wing pundits and bloggers run their mouths and wage wars with other children's lives while hiding behind their blogs like the cowards that they are. Everytime Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Malkin and the wannabe blog drones open their mouths, they lose another 100 votes. They're the best weapon the Democrats have got. They're simply not smart enough to learn their lesson because they're too busy masterbating to 9/11 and hating Liberals for whatever reason their "leaders" tell them to. Here's hoping they someday "drink the kool-aid". People who cannot think for themselves are only in the way and their too chicken-s**t to fight so they're useless. Blogging votes for Democrats and hawking impeachment for the Democrats. Ignorance is CHOOSING to be stupid.
Posted by: Syntax | Friday, November 10, 2006 at 02:48 AM