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That's one dumb-ass off the list.

I will try to contain my disappointment that a 1st amendment butcher is not running

Reading an article this morning when I found the term "crash course dummies", used to describe the makeup of dims coming into office.

Why do all you Rush Limbaugh look alikes and sound alike have to pin derogatory labels on people who are not as ugly and nasty as you. Is it because you want to create an atmosphere of hate to hold onto all your religious bigots

I'd have a tough time voting for someone as far left as Feingold. But what's there to hate about him? Irrespective of ideology he is, along with lame duck Jim Jeffords (I) and Oklahoma's Tom Coburn (R), one of very few men with integrity in the Senate. To call someone like that a "protector of terrorists rights" when his intentions are to protect YOUR rights is sheer lunacy.

It isn't lunacy when he's against interrogation, eavesdropping and guantanamo - it's the truth.

Reading sites like these take me back to the days of working in the State Hospital and reading some of my patient's worldviews. If you are against torture, eavesdropping and Guantanamo, you are a lunatic, huh Dan? I love your tone of barely-contained frothing-at-the-mouth, the utter lack of (intended) humor, your ad hominem arguments and pejorative labels, your calm reasonable stance of confronting the views of 55-60% of your fellow Americans who disagree with you by calling them "traitors".

George Dubya was never anything but a loser of Other People's Money in my home town of Midland, Texas before he got hisself a baseball team by a questionable use of eminent domain in Arlington Texas. Then he became Preznit by a Miracle in Florida 2000 remarkably similar to LBJ's 87-vote triumph in Duval County, Texas for a U S Senate race in 1948. Since then Dubya has acquitted himself about as well as could be expected of a former cheerleader and brain-dead trust fund kid who was just smart enough to raise Other People's Money and steal elections. Again and again, The Preznit has egged on his looniest supporters by delivering Osama Bin Laden's messages of fear to the American public when Osama himself couldn't or wouldn't come through. The Tall Terrorist might even be dead of kidney failure by now, but Osama still has Dubya and Cheney to whip up folks like you. Who would have thought a rich dumb cluck like Dubya would be so good at inspiring loonies? But he has The Gift.

Heh. "Biggmaxx" condemns Dan's use of pejorative labels, then goes on to say:

"former cheerleader and brain-dead trust fund kid who was just smart enough to raise Other People's Money and steal elections."

"The Preznit has egged on his looniest supporters."

"a rich dumb cluck like Dubya"

Way to elevate the discourse, Bigass.

Please comment on who should run as President for the Republican party ?

To WuzzaDem: "Elevated discourse" on this blog does not exist. You guys are authoritarian Limbaugh chest-thumpers (maybe without benefit of oxycontin) who have no interest in elevated discourse. I figure the best way you could understand me was to drop to your cartoon level. The stories about Dubya's past are all true, whatever their 'level of political discourse'. In addition, Dubya was a hopeless drunk and cocaine addict through most of the 1970's, which is why he could not make money in the oil business in Midland when even Fester the gas station owner could bring in money on a Midland oil deal in that period.

Bush's early-1980's Harken Energy deal alone makes the Clinton's Whitewater episode a Sunday School picnic. But you guys have no interest in that stuff, right? Dubya is your little tin god. The Commander-in-Chief, right? The entitled little jerk was playing hooky during Vietnam but by God he is the CIC now. That jet run over the "Mission Accomplished" banner proves it, right?

If Wonderwho is honestly asking me (or anyone) who should run as President of the Republican Party, I honestly could not give a rat's ass. Long ago, I used to hold out hope for McCain but he sold his soul to the right-wing crazies when he allowed a bill to come out of committee granting dictatorial rights (torture, suspension of habeas corpus, declaration of virtually anyone who disagrees with the Preisdent to be an "enemy combatant' to the Chief Executive, any Chief Executive). If McCain is defeated Hilary Clinton can waterboard your sorry asses to her heart's content. There would be a certain amount of poetic justice in that. That is the thing about you crackpots. You never think about the long-term aspects of what you are doing. Let's give Godlike powers to King George Dubya, right? But the next Chief Executive gets those powers too, regardless of her political beliefs.

The 2006 election purged most of the Repubican moderates and the party is now an even more extreme bunch of certifiable paranoids than they ever were. If I were you Bush-worshipers, I would honestly make some kind of try for a constitutional amendment that would allow Bush and Cheney to serve as long as FDR did. That is honestly the only way Dubya and Cheney can escape charges for the grossest criminal negligence in generations (not catching Osama, prosecution of a disastrous illegal war in Iraq, refusing to deploy basic container and chemiical plant protections in the US, decimating the US Army, criminal bribery to Halliburton, "black sites" overseas, and god knows what other horrors will come out of whatever 'plumbers units' the White House has run for the last six years, to name only a few). When all this comes out, the Republican party will be worse off than during the 1970's after Nixon.

The Republicans weren't that bad off at all after Nixon. Carter didn't exactly trounce Ford, and four years later the Republicans convincingly took the Presidency and the Senate.

You can't blame Bush for not catching Osama bin Laden, just as Clinton shouldn't be blamed for 9/11.

I am curious to find out what the inevitable investigations reveal. If the Democrats are smart, they will keep it low-key, and select unpopular targets like Cheney instead of dragging Bush through a Whitewater-gate.

WWU Vet, you sound like a reasonable person especially for a site like this one. I agree with you that if the Dems are smart, they will not make investigations front and center. As much as I would like to see Bush and Cheney investigated, they have screwed things up so badly the Dems will have their hands full simply clearing the wreckage of the last six years, as well as enacting many popular programs held stillborn by the Bush Republicans.

Swing voters and Independents really do exist, and I am one of them. I voted for Ronald Reagan twice--and Bill Clinton twice. Big Government is simply an inevitable fact of our lives, and since it is a Reality we must try to get it to work for us on policy matters instead of acting as a high school debating society. If these idiots who just got voted out of office had spent half as much time on passing good legislation as they did in posturing on Terri Schiavo and gay marriage, we would be immeasurably better off. We simply must put a hold on the "culture war" miasma and get to work on the many terrible real-world problems that face us.

The "Democrats are Traitors" meme is pestilential drivel. Why in God's name make vile charges against half your countrymen when all of us are beseiged? Besides the obvious threats in the Middle East, there are other terrible foreign policy problems which are confronting us--Africa will become the next hotbed of terrorism because of the extreme poverty and high percentage of failed states. We are losing American jobs at the rate of thousands a day. Nuclear proliferation puts the entire world at the mercy of a few fanatics. I went to China this summer and saw firsthand how they are getting rich bankrolling our federal deficit. Because of the sheer number of threats we face, Americans simply must work together instead of calling each other inflammatory names. I hope and pray this shameful name-calling and schoolyard bullying period is behind us.

Prejudice will always be a part of society

LÒinteret du forum est precisement de susciter un debat parmi les citoyens pour que le budget et les choix quÒil sous-tend soient places au c?ur du debat public. Un budget, ce sont des choix. Des choix supposent des priorites.

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