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Being compliant is not Patriotism.

Being submissive is not Patriotism.

Shutting up is not being Patriotic.

The Dan Riehl's of the right can not tell us what victory looks like except to say that "winning is staying"

Dan Riehl's people have been given Carte Blanche to run this war, despite what the people want, and they blew it.

It's not liberal's fault. It's not the Media's fault. It's the fault of the people in charge and no Jackelope is gonna change that.

"Hell yes, I'll question their patriotism. Why not?"

But, do you also question the patriotism of Tom Delay, George W Bush, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Richard Burt, or Richard Perle?

See a tongue-in-cheek posting that employs the same GOP tactic used in relation to Senator Kerry to creatively interpret remarks made by the President in the most unfavorable manner...here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2006/10/bush_endorses_malpractice_sexual_assault.php

Give Dan a break, people. I'm sure he's busy ignoring a dying relative and doesn't have the wherewithal to think clearly.


Since when is it "patriot" to squander American lives and the taxpayers money in a swamp of cultural and religious issues that NOBODY BOTHERED TO UNDERSTAND before the uh, 'liberation' of Iraq?

Since when is it "patriotic" to enthusiastically support invasion of privacy, detention without due process, government snooping without warrants and torture that isn't torture unless your goal is death or organ failure?

Since when is it "patriotic" to enthusiastically support invasion of privacy, detention without due process, government snooping without warrants and torture that isn't torture unless your goal is death or organ failure?

When the people in power depend on the people who vote for them to be bedwetting cowards.

Since when is it "patriotic"

When your homeboy's with your support attacted America.

"two self-inflicted wounds"? You really do need professional help.

I don't want us to lose in Iraq. I just want *you* to lose in Iraq. So do us all a favor, sign up, head over there, and get your head blown off. Sooner the better.

He never went there for anything but an attempt to establish his cred.

Kerry went there, regardless of motive (and you have no proof of his motive), and risked his life. Bush didn't go to Vietnam - he stayed home and protected the skies over Denver from the Viet Cong. And you certainly haven't gone to Iraq. You're here, fighting the War of Ideas (TM). You've talked the war talk, now go walk the war walk. What - too scared?

See you November 8th!

He never went there for anything but an attempt to establish his cred.


Yeah. Vietnam was the PERFECT place to go to establish credibility. No chance of him dying over there. Nossireeebob. Why, there are dozens of Democrats in Bagdhad right now livin it up waiting to run for office when they get back.

Tammy Duckworth cut herself shaving and lost two legs in Iraq to establish credility.

Okay, so you're saying then that the American Central Command is unpatriotic and wants us to lose? Because they're the ones who put out this report saying that Iraq is edging toward chaos.

It's not the Democrats' fault, or liberals' fault, or the media's fault, that the Bush administration started a war on flawed intelligence, for bad reasons, without doing their homework, and for no good reason. The U.S. hasn't lost the war because certain people (the ones you don't agree with) say it's lost the war. People are saying the U.S. has lost the war because the U.S. has lost the war.

What happened to that famous Republican mantra, "personal responsibility"? You Republican war supporters will take responsibility for nothing. Everything is the liberals' fault. Well, hello! The liberals weren't the ones who started this war. The war is a disaster, and the fault belongs to the people who planned it, started it, and supported it, not anyone else.

TS, you just made my day.

"..two self-inflicted wounds.." Which Karl Rove playbook did that come from? Even though his commanding officers have defended his commendations- they must be liars too?
I agree with Vladi- go to Iraq, see how fast you can find an IED and then suck on it!

Dan, victory without honor is no victory. That's what dems want, Dan. Victory with honor, in wars of necessity not executive tantrum or intel fudging or whim. Victory with honor means having the common sense to stop walking your troopers into meat grinders of your own creation; it means following sun tzu's dicta: reverse, reevaluate, reassemble, reassert. That is how bad situations are turned around by courageous people, Dan. Your worry about all that egg on Republican faces leads you to denial that precludes wisdom borne of hindsight. The denial costs the US lives and opportunity for goodwill and success. The denial makes you a prissy narcissist, Dan, because your only care is your pride, not your country. It makes YOU the traitor, Dan.

Has Dan told you all about the intricacies of the Natalee Holloway disappearance?

Has Dan told you all about the intricacies of the Natalee Holloway disappearance?

No, he hasn't yet. But I hope he does, because the news media hasn't covered it at all!

And don't give me that Kerry war hero BS. He was there for three months, two self inflicted wounds later he had his Purple Hearts and his out. He never went there for anything but an attempt to establish his cred. ,/i>

And which branch did you serve in, Dan? Oh, wait, you never served? I'm shocked, somehow...

Dan Riehl is an unmitigated asshole.

John Cole

I'm shocked. I'm seeing many comments that I assume can be attributed to democratic party members, and Mr. Riehl is allowing those comments. This is not typical rethug blog behavior from what I've seen...any comment that doesn't fit is usually deleted.

Dan must be an attention whore, or a masochist. After seeing that hair on Faux, he must be a masochist.

I love how there isn't ONE comment here defending Dan. That's cause even the koolaid drinkers know that Dan is full of shit on this one.

How's your little pussy doing, Dan? Was it too busy to serve in the armed forces? Scared of self-inflicting wounds in a major combat arena?

I think your pussy is crying Dan, because you kept it from serving.

I am unsurpised, Dan, that you lack clarity with respect to things like primaries (not having too strong a grip on the actual mechanics of democracy), or patriotism (having embraced the suicide pact that is Bush foreign policy), or history (being willfully ignorant to the mechanics of the "Swift Boat" campaign, and a whole host of other things).

I am, however, shocked that you manage to make a living wile being an uninformed crank. How is that possible? How does someone with your intellect manage to attract wingnut welfare?

I'm gonna stop now, before I get really insulting. Think about this, though, Dan. The Democrats controlled the Senate for nearly four decades, during some of the most turbulent times in the history of this country. And your running posts like this one because after a mere 12 years, the electorate is shocked at how pathetically bad, and destructive, Republican control has been. Geez, that must suck for you. Deep breaths, Dan, deep breaths.

"Dan, victory without honor is no victory. That's what dems want, Dan. Victory with honor, in wars of necessity not executive tantrum or intel fudging or whim."

"An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war."
- "Glances at History," 1906

America has already lost in Iraq. There is no winning a war which started with lies, tries to impose democracy on a people that are not ready for it and causes America to lose allies. In addition, it has given extremist muslims a cause to rally around, gravely worsening the security situation of Americans at home and abroad.

Attacking Iraq was the worst mistake made by a president not exactly known for his smart moves. And still many Americans don't realise that it is not the president or his friends (or even their children) who pay the price. It is ordinary Americans who pay the price for the stupidity and greed of their leaders.

"What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to the U.S. military than to send it into combat in Iraq without enough men — to launch an invasion of a foreign country not by the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force, but by the Rumsfeld Doctrine of just enough troops to lose? What could be a bigger insult than that?

What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in uniform than sending them off to war without the proper equipment, so that some soldiers in the field were left to buy their own body armor and to retrofit their own jeeps with scrap metal so that roadside bombs in Iraq would only maim them for life and not kill them? And what could be more injurious and insulting than Don Rumsfeld’s response to criticism that he sent our troops off in haste and unprepared: Hey, you go to war with the army you’ve got — get over it.

What could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in uniform than to send them off to war in Iraq without any coherent postwar plan for political reconstruction there, so that the U.S. military has had to assume not only security responsibilities for all of Iraq but the political rebuilding as well? The Bush team has created a veritable library of military histories — from “Cobra II” to “Fiasco” to “State of Denial” — all of which contain the same damning conclusion offered by the very soldiers and officers who fought this war: This administration never had a plan for the morning after, and we’ve been making it up — and paying the price — ever since.

And what could possibly be more injurious and insulting to our men and women in Iraq than to send them off to war and then go out and finance the very people they’re fighting against with our gluttonous consumption of oil? Sure, George Bush told us we’re addicted to oil, but he has not done one single significant thing — demanded higher mileage standards from Detroit, imposed a gasoline tax or even used the bully pulpit of the White House to drive conservation — to end that addiction. So we continue to finance the US. military with our tax dollars, while we finance Iran, Syria, Wahhabi mosques and Al Qaeda madrassas with our energy purchases." - Tom Friedman

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