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Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Dem Congressman: Kerry Blowing It, Again

Evidently the Congressman didn't want his name attached to the quote. So much for this all being partisan spin.

A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

Update: I saw this earlier. I wonder what John Cut and Run Kerry is going to do about his planned attendance at a rally with Veterans tomorrow?

Lieutenant Colonel (Retired) Joe Repya issued this statement earlier this afternoon:

The men and women serving in the uniform of our nation are not fodder for politicians to joke about. By insulting veterans and active members of the United States military as uneducated losers, John Kerry owes an apology to all the brave men and women who have ever worn the uniform of our country. As a 2005 veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom, I call on Tim Walz and the DFL Party to immediately denounce Kerry's deeply offensive remarks and rescind their invitations for Kerry to campaign in our state tomorrow.

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Comments

Kerry still hasn't apologised for comments he made about us Vietnam Vets, and he has enjoyed several terms as a US Senator, and was nominated
by the democratic party (sic)to run for President in 2004. Says as much about the party as it does for him. Don't wait for the apology.
VOTE REPUBLICAN ON NOV 7TH

7 posts. It's almost as if you're tryint to follow some RNC approved meme.

"John Kerry said something. Vote Republican."

The current Republican are so corrupt, so incompetent, so pathetic, led by such failures and losers that the BEST, the absolute BEST reason Republicans are putting forth to keep power a week from the election is..."John Kerry said something. Vote Republican."

It's almost as if you're tryint to follow some RNC approved meme.

Not really. Democrats just provide a target rich environment.

When you got morons like Kerry saying stuff like this right before an election, republicans don't really need to say anything -- they just let democrats speak for themselves and point out to the public what they said.

John Kerry and jaime-fine examples of why the Democratic party should never be allowed to ever hold a position of power in this country ever again.

They just don't get it. Not surprising considering they live in that insane asylum known as the "reality-based community".

Jaime's now complaining about the number of posts about Kerry while posting about them himself. This is beginning to sound like a monkey with banana blockage shrieking about the banana in his mouth.

I'm talking about Dan Riehl's posts not the comments.

Our troops are dying and it's no ones fault except the President YOU elected and his cabinet of failures. Blood is on your hands because your prescription for their deaths is more of the same. How you can go to bed at night and not want to kill yourself is beyond me.

Jaime:

As for the posts, your commentary is included.

But anyway, there is so much wrong with your post to me, it's nearly impossible to comment. But...

One qualifying feature of the blood on my hands is that, as I said at another post, I have three sons in the war...one in Afghanistan and two in Iraq. Blood of a kind must also be on their hands, wouldn't you say? What's your comment on that? Are they guilty of something?

We need to discount, for the moment, the ravings of a faux lunatic like yourself, because it's your default mode, and you rely upon it to avoid discussing things you claim to find objectionable. You're beyond embarrassment as a human being, so we need to discuss issues and avoid the mush of your little emotional traps. It's all bullshit, Jaime.

Let's start here, to pull some of the layers off your worldview. Is war always wrong, Jaime? Were the No Fly Zones working over the long haul?
That's for starters.

Well?

You wont get any dialogue from that type of troll. Its all drive by commenting. Plus Jamie would have to keep toggling back to the DUmp to get her talking points, it would just take too long.

But you got to admit that when a Democrat says to ABC " I guess Kerry was not content blowing 2004 now he wants to blow 2006" that the man has made one stupendous blunder.

So, Abraham Lincoln was responsible for every soldier who died during the civil war?

I guess he DID decide to choose war over a peaceful seperation that would have destroyed us both if it were allowed to happen. Oh, and the split would have been legal under the constitution...just like the President sending troops to a country and the Senate and the House both voting for the war.

If we leave now, more Iraqis will die. Remember Desert Storm? Remember how we left the very people we had convinced to overthrow Saddam to fend for themselves? The only possible consequence of US withdrawal is genocide. And it WILL be our faults if we allow it to happen.

Orson Scott Card, a democrat, seems to know more about this issue than blame-crazy jaime.
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2006-10-29-1.html

Damn, I forgot, Jaime, you old genius. You made a comment on another post which evoked questions about sectarian violence. I asked you explain; your answer was a question to me. Should you start with the death of Muhammed, or at some ridiculous point of departure caused by Bush's war.

I answered that you should start at the death of Muhammed's son-in-law. I'm still waiting for you ventilate on the causes of Islamic sectarianism and where it intersects with American interests.

Your expertise in this matter speaks for itself; since you're so energetic on the issue of the failures of the war and so very humane, I need some input to have you set me straight.

Waiting in Connecticut,

Rhod

Jaime,

So you're voting for a party that didn't vote for this war? Your problem is that most people remember that your party was all in favour of this war until it got difficult. The problem is that what Kerry said is vintage Kerry. Only stupid people risk their necks for their country. Only stupid people put patriotism above their self interest. This is hardly surprising since Democrats have put the interest of their party above the interest of their country throughout this war.

And despite what you say these are the words of your party's standard bearer in the last election, not just some desperate Democrat- like you. We shall see next week how many people live in your fantasy world where problems will go away if you simply ignore them.

Gary:

Just give me a minute. I'm know that Jaime can be coaxed into a mania of self-adoration and posed compassion if I don't get this right. Just a few questions to establish her/his/its sincerity is important to me.

"Blood of a kind must also be on their hands, wouldn't you say? What's your comment on that? Are they guilty of something?"

They don't get to choose where they go. They don't get to choose where they fight. You get to choose who sends them off to war.

"Is war always wrong"

Nope. Never said so. Neither have any serious democrats. People who think that about Democrats or current liberals want to lie to themselves and conjure up images of smelly hippies who spit at troops. That image doesn't exist anymore. I know you want it to, but you are now in the minority that think Iraq was worth it all. And they're not long haired hippie freaks, they're your neighbors and your family members.

"Were the No Fly Zones working over the long haul?"

I don't know. Ask Condi Rice circa 2001:

"We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq..."

or Colin Powell circa 2001:

"The sanctions, as they are called, have succeeded over the last 10 years, not in deterring him from moving in that direction, but from actually being able to move in that direction. The Iraqi regime militarily remains fairly weak. It doesn't have the capacity it had 10 or 12 years ago. It has been contained."

"I answered that you should start at the death of Muhammed's son-in-law. I'm still waiting for you ventilate on the causes of Islamic sectarianism and where it intersects with American interests."

You're not asking a realistic question. The answer you seek can't be explained in 700 page books and I do not profess to know the subject in that depth.

You aren't able to answer that question either, unless that is a focus of yours career or otherwise. We're just two average Americans butting heads over a painful issue. I think your votes for leadership are wrongheaded and you think I'm evil. I think those in power, making the decisions need to be removed...and they've got you so pumped full of fear that you couldn't bear to think of what NOT having them in power would mean.

The desperation is not coming from me. I'm not the ones that stands to lose power.

"Our troops are dying and it's no ones fault except the President YOU elected and his cabinet of failures. Blood is on your hands because your prescription for their deaths is more of the same."

well jamie, actually, the war was the fault of saddam hussein after he didn't comply with un resolution 1441. the president and members of congress, republican and democrat alike, agree to call hussein on his bluff. they didn't want to take a chance on my safety and i appreciate that. now that iran is racing for the bomb, hussein would surely now be doing that also. what a mess that would have been. blood isn't on anyone's hands but saddams. while i don't exactly have my head up the republican's butt (i'm an independent), your party reeks because of it's failure of support during a time of war. i detest them with every bone in my body.

blablabla 1441 blablabla

"your party reeks because of it's failure of support during a time of war"

Shall I list the literally hundreds of Michael Moore like quotes from Republicans during Kosovo. What they said about Clinton is almost verbatim what people have said about Bush. And I have no problem with that. Compliance is not a requirement for citizenship.

"they didn't want to take a chance on my safety and i appreciate that. now that iran is racing for the bomb"

So the fact that Iran is Racing toward the bomb specifically BECAUSE we invaded Iraq doesn't bother you?

"...and it's no ones fault except the President..."

Riiight. There ain't no terrorists in the world. They're all a figment of our imagination.

"So the fact that Iran is Racing toward the bomb specifically BECAUSE we invaded Iraq doesn't bother you?

Posted by: jaime | Tuesday, October 31, 2006 at 10:10 PM "

where did you come up with this one? that's almost laughable.

Funny, jaime must have missed the abortion doctor - most good democrats didn't

"where did you come up with this one? that's almost laughable."

So Iran HASN'T become emboldened by America's weaker position in the region? Why do you think the regime is stepping up Nuclear production? Why do you think Iran felt it could engage in a proxy war in Lebanon? Because they're weaker?

"Riiight. There ain't no terrorists in the world."

You're right. They were all in Baghdad having lunch with Saddam plotting 9/11 before we invaded.

"Funny, jaime must have missed the abortion doctor - most good democrats didn't"

Nice eliminationist rhetoric. People like you send people into ovens.

Jaime, get yourself educated, please. Iran has been clandestinely working on a bomb for 20+ years, right under the IAEA's nose. Both Iran's and N Korea's continuing nuclear programs were exposed four years ago after Bush took office and the IAEA was prodded to take a closer look at both countries.

Jaime:

Sometimes this is too easy.

First, take a break from rummaging around in your junkyard of stereotypes. You know nothing about my opinions of Bush, of the war, or for that matter, hippies.

Second, I asked you about YOUR opinion of the No Fly Zones, not the opinions of Rice and Powell. You obviously know nothing about the subject. Quotes from other sources and link-o-mania to other opinions are simple evasions.

Third, if you agree that war isn't always wrong, you might have elaborated on the kinds of wars you consider worth fighting. I'm not interested in your speculation about the mental states and opinions of the right-wing demons you imagine to exists on this blog.

Fourth, your answer that the troops do no choose where they go is, to say the least, inadequate. Since about 80% of the troops support the mission, and combat soldiers (including my sons), are engaged in bloodletting...AND...since you claim that I have blood on my hands because (as you assume) I support the war, the natural conclusion from YOUR ideas is that my sons and all the soldiers who support the war ALSO have blood on there hands. Just say it, Jaime.

Last, the question which involved Muhammed's son-in-law was "realistic" because YOU brought up the subject of beginning your discourse on sectarianism with Muhammed's death. I didn't establish the starting point, you did, But you clearly have no knowledge or understanding of sectarianism, its sources, or where it conflicts with American interests...(Contd).

We're not "two average Americans butting heads" over these topics, Jaime.

You have no interest in rational solutions. I do.

"So the fact that Iran is Racing toward the bomb specifically BECAUSE we invaded Iraq doesn't bother you?"

Iran had no nuclear program until we invaded Iraq?

you're wasting your time, rhod. debating that guy is just exactly like arguing with the obnoxious little boy whose parents have obviously never spanked him, giving him a sense of entirely unearned & unwarranted self-image, whose arguments consist entirely of of the 2-note whine, "huh-UHHHH!"

but don't take my word for it. you'll see.

"Shall I list the literally hundreds of Michael Moore like quotes from Republicans during Kosovo. What they said about Clinton is almost verbatim what people have said about Bush."

Yes, please list the quotes. The only quotes that I have seen from Republican Senators and Representatives, were words of support.

I don't understand what is up with the moonbats and their love affair with Sadam Hussein. What was it? Did you folks like the idea of "rape rooms", "childrens prisons", and gassing Kurds? I don't understand the attraction that the looney left has for Hussein. What was it?

Look, I know that you moonbats are upset that Sadam Hussein has been deposed. I understand that you're heartbroken that Hussein is now in court facing charges of crimes against humanity. You're just going to have to get over it and accept that Hussein is not coming back.

The Left's love affair with Saddam:

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

"Last, the question which involved Muhammed's son-in-law was "realistic" because YOU brought up the subject of beginning your discourse on sectarianism with Muhammed's death."

-You asked an incredibly broad question, knowing whatever answer I gave you could pick apart. I am not going to answer 'Explain Iraqi Sectarian Violence'.

"You have no interest in rational solutions. I do."

-Vote Republican is not a rational solution.


"I don't understand what is up with the moonbats and their love affair with Sadam Hussein."

You mean like this? http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

Hey David, make sure there isn't a list of quotes by Republican senators and congressmen on the internets before chaellenging someone to find one. All it took was ten seconds on "the Google" and a list popped up through the "series of tubes". All I expect from you is "oops my bad" because you've got NOTHING left to say on this issue.

"Yes, please list the quotes. The only quotes that I have seen from Republican Senators and Representatives, were words of support."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/stories/2005/08/17/heresWhatRepublicansSaidAboutClintonAndKosovo.html

"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be
away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

RICK SANTORUM


American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."

TOM DELAY


"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."

TRENT LOTT


"VICTORY MEANS EXIT STRATEGY, AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PRESIDENT TO EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE EXIST STRATEGY IS"

GEORGE WALKER BUSH

Thanks Kerry....you do a lot for the Republican Party

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