Allen Hits Back

I'm not even sure what to make of it ... as someone who has played around with fiction earlier in my writing life, part of me would argue excusing it because it is fiction. At the same time, I don't know ... it does give one pause about the mind that wrote it, especially on top of Webb's previous comments regarding women.

It isn't the easist of things to read and certainly isn't going to go over well with religious folk.

What do you think? Plenty more at link.

Certainly after just cleaning things up, we can't risk anymore pedophiles in Congress. Heh! The funniest part will be reading the WaPo's defense of it without being able to print any of it.

Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage sex scenes.

Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and non-fiction writings?

· Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land:

– Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”

Comments

[TD Larkin]

Gee, the only thing worse than that would be protecting a known pedophile and allowing him to stalk children in the halls of the United States Congress...

[Dan Riehl]

Gee, the only thing worse than that would be protecting a known pedophile and allowing him to stalk children in the halls of the United States Congress...

Obviously you mean Stubbs as he is the only "known" pedo in Congress. But then, the Dems honored him. Maybe that's why they write such filthy stuff. lol

[TD Larkin]

Don't you mean to include Daniel Crane in your list of known Congressional pedophiles? That makes a total of three. 66% were Republicans.

[longz]

Since it's a cultural practice in Afghanistan for fathers to put their sons' penis in their mouths (really, it is), and since this excerpt sounds like it takes place in that area, it looks like Allen's taking the scene out of context in order to make one, last desperate cheap shot. A fitting way for him to end his campaign.

[Phoenix]

I've read several of Webb's books, and I do not recall flinching in the least at any passages as they all fit within the context of the story. I do not see the degradation of women in any of these passages. Webb does the same type of merciless description of men, as well. He is a graphic writer, and his war scenes rank up there with 'All Quiet on the Western Front' in making fiction a thing of truth for a world without war.

[Dan Riehl]

do not recall flinching ... I do not see the degradation of women

Oh, puhlease!! No one would expect "you" to flinch and the degradation bits probably just turned you on. Shhh - we're talking social con voters here, Hon. LOL

[Phoenix]

I just peed my pants...

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha............

Pass me a Marlboro, PUHLEASE........................................................and your hankie.....

[Phoenix]

Hey. I can do that thing with the banana. Yeah.....

I'm voting for Webb. Screw Allen for this last-ditch cheap shot....that macacacaski white boy who never wrote anything but his name on Internet term papers.......

Pass the fruit....

[Dan Riehl]

A Banana slit, I mean, split??

[Phoenix]

Oh, Dan! .... I feel a bi-polar moment coming on.......... Quick...get your kit!

Oh. Wait. I'm manic. Bring your tie-downs instead of the little whips.....

[Dan Riehl]

Bring your tie-downs instead of the little whips.....

LMAO No worries, I have quite a large suitcase, the four foot single tail rolls up nicely and even the elephant skin flogger doesn't take up THAT much room. Let's see, where's that map tube for my canes??? Damn, I HATE packing.

Okay, enough kidding - I'm off to bed. Night all.

[raindrops]

Dan,

All the macaca, sexism, and other junk aside, for some people with long memories (and that's everyone in Va) the Va SOLs are still enough to make them dislike Allen. The most conservative teachers at my school won't vote for him because he sold out public education. One woman who always votes Republican said the only way she would vote for Allen was if "they ran Osama against him." Ouch!

[jaime]

To reiterate, Scooter Libby wrote a book where a Japanese Girl in a cage fucked a bear.

[James]

>Allen Hits Back.

No he doesn't.

The reason this won't hurt Webb, but could damage Allen, is Webb is protected by none other than Dick Cheney's, (Ex-Chief of Staff), Scooter Libby.

Libby wrote a novel, "The Apprentice", that has 10 year old girls being raped by bears in a cage so to train the girls for sex with adults.

Goes right into the White House corrupt morality idea.

Plus, John McCain likes the novel and has stated so.

Allen just may have stepped on a land mine planted by Scooter Libby.

[richard]

http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2006/10/mirror_mirror_o.html

Need i say more?

[richard]

This is even funnier! http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2006/10/few-more-people-who-apparently-arent.html

[windansea]

Scooter is running for congress??? I did not know that....

[heheh]

I will vote for Allen, but I agree that he may have stepped on his crank with this stuff. I think it's called artistic license.

[Phoenix]

Raindrops,

I'm with you on the SOLs. In twenty years of teaching, each year bringing some grand new idea to make education better, I never experienced such collective fury as when the SOLs were handed to us on barbed-wire platters.

But, just a note here - Virginia is listed 6th in the country in education. That's up there.....

Heheh - I think it's called abuse of artistic license. Allen made a bad move. Cheap. Real cheap. And stupid.

[Micah]

The thing that bothers is that no one seems to realize these are real events. This is not something that Jim Webb just conjured up in his head and said let me put some pedophilia into my book. In Cambodia and a couple other Southeast Asia countries, it is not uncommon for an adult to kiss the penis of a child up to a few years in age. This obviously sounds like it is child molestation to anyone in Western culture. This passage is something that Jim Webb experienced first hand and similar to how the book is written, he thought that the experience was strange and no one seems able to explain it. There is a woman who is awaiting trial in Nevada for doing exactly this act, and she is Cambodian. While this might not fit American values, I think it is sad that everyone jumps to the automatic conclusion that somehow the author, Jim Webb, must be a pervert and that he concocted the story in his head. If you read the entire three pages, it shows how this is not a sexual encounter or something that was written to be selacious. It was something that was witnessed and was definitely viewed as being strange in the context of the writing.

[jaime]

"I think it is sad that everyone jumps to the automatic conclusion that somehow the author, Jim Webb"

This was done on purpose because Macaca Allen knows full well he's got a base of full of ignorants who don't give a shit what the truth is. National Geographic must be smut because it's got pictures of a bunch of naked chicks who mutilate themselves.

George Allen is counting on the moron vote.