Allah Pundit has the Centanni and Wiig conversion video up at Hot Air. I want to contrast that with this, not because I am a Coulter apologist, but to point out the irony of what I predict will be the lack of response to the conversion aspect of this kidnapping from the Left.
I'm not going to argue with those who condemned Coulter for statements having to do with converting Muslims to Christianity, nor would I support it in rhetoric or deed. What I want to know is how can a political wing in America capable of heaping such scorn on Coulter for a reference to converting Muslims be so naive when it comes to an enemy fully capable of doing that very thing to anyone who is either non-religious, or a follower of some other theological view?
The message in the conversion video was not one of public relations. It was a statement which outlines a perceived path. That road map is easy enough to see, convert to Islam, or die.
No, that isn't the position of every Muslim, of course. But it is precisely the message of the Islamo-fascist enemy we fight. And the Left in America better either figure it out, or stop pretending it isn't true.
One need only watch the video to see the real goal of our Islamo-fascist enemies and understand that, in this case, kidnapping was simply another means to an end - an end every move Islamo-fascists make is designed to achieve. If Americans don't come to understand that, they had better get ready to start removing their shoes five times a day before they bow down in prayer while facing the Qibla.
Only a fool would interpret the conversion aspect of this terrible crime any other way. And the more we allow these types of crimes to go unpunished, as this one likely will, the closer we get to the day of our own conversion. And, personally, I'm not going there. It need not be convert to Islam or die, provided America as a whole is willing to fight back.


Now I think you understand the mindset.
Posted by: old trooper | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 03:13 PM
Excellent point!
Posted by: Darrell | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 03:51 PM
Comment on this
Looks like a lot of macaca mouths dropped in to comment, if you really want to know. Maybe they have a friend from autoadmit they feel a need to defend. Have a nice day. ; )
Posted by: Dan Riehl | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 04:53 PM
It is the stated goal of EVERY Muslim that those who are not should become. It's in the Koran. Either one converts, pays jizya, or die (war). One cannot be a 'good Muslim' and believe otherwise, which is why I say that there are no moderate Muslims. That was the choice Steve Centanni was offered, and he chose to convert. Whether it was at gunpoint or not, he chose to convert. The history of Islam is the history of forced conversion at sword point. Centanni could have chosen jizya or death. He could have chosen not to say what he did about U.S. policy. In choosing to convert, Centanni follows in the footsteps of millions before him. For us in the West, something done under duress is legally invalid. When it comes to Islam, that logic does not operate. Instead, Centanni and Wiig, having publicly confessed Islam and Mohammed (piss be upon him) will wind up dead for recanting. Therefore, given the mindset of Muslims towards those who reject Islam, Centanni and Wiig would have been better accepting war because they will be killed anyway. I was not in his shoes, so I don't know what I would have done. Instead, having heard Centanni's statements about the "beautiful 'Palestinian' people," I wait to see how he will report news in that region. I hope that Roger Ailes removes him from that region.
Posted by: indga | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 07:07 PM
"In choosing to convert....."
As if he had a choice in the matter. Were I abducted by Satanists and given the 'choice' to become one of them or die, I'd say, "Where're my horns?"
Words are empty things when they are forced from the will to live. They change nothing in the heat of the soul.
"To change your mind and to follow him who sets you right is to be nonetheless the free agent that you were before."
(Marcus Aurelius AD 121-80: Meditations
Change the word 'right' in the above quotation to 'free'.
Fundamental Islamists have no more grasp of what freedom and liberty and individualism means than we have of their belief that merely stating "I convert" actually means something. It's doublespeak and the joke's on them.
Posted by: Phoenix | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 08:24 PM
Yes. "In choosing to convert...." Even in captivity, Centanni had choice. He could not choose to get up and leave because captivity eliminates that choice; however, like Jill Carroll, he did have choice. Where Jill Carroll CHOSE to play the game, to dissemble, to delay and engage in other behaviors that allowed her to deny Islam, Steve Centanni—gun to his head—had three choices (convert, pay jizya, or die). Centanni CHOSE to convert, no doubt believing that the conversion was invalid because it was under duress. That is Western thinking.
The deadly joke is actually on Centanni and Wiig. We had better understand that Muslims are a people who do not comprehend that a thing done under compulsion is not valid; moreover, we need to get that Muslims are going to kill those who don't grasp that force and free will are synonymous in the eyes of Muslims.
One would hope that journalists would at least read the Koran to obtain some kind of insight into the world in which they venture. Had Centanni had a better or less romanticized perspective (that bit about telling the Palestinian story is pure romance) of the Islamic mindset, he might have made a different choice ... one that would not leave him open to a bullet from some Muslim who will see Centanni as an apostate to Islam.
We always have choice, whether in freedom or captivity. The difference is that in freedom, we are in control of the choices, or so we would like to think, whereas in captivity, our choices are circumscribed by our captors.
Posted by: indga | Sunday, August 27, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Shew. I just had an existential moment. I'm over it now.
The word 'moreover' always gets my panties in a wad, so you'll pardon me if I don't come off as more than a little sophomoric:
"moreover, we need to get that Muslims are going to kill those who don't grasp that force and free will are synonymous in the eyes of Muslims."
DUH.
Posted by: Phoenix | Monday, August 28, 2006 at 12:33 AM
And your point is?
Posted by: indga | Monday, August 28, 2006 at 02:19 PM
Precisely.
Posted by: Phoenix | Monday, August 28, 2006 at 11:52 PM