Qana Exposed

If you read this post, view the images and watch the short slow motion video, I believe you will come to clearly understand how Hizbollah manipulated the scene at Qana. Also, quite possibly, you'll see how they succeeded in adding to the body count of dead children there.

How do you introduce new bodies into the scene of a bomb strike? The answer may be as simple as you bring them from around the corner. Where they ultimately came from, who can say?

I call the first image top right clean crew. And it looks like a motley, yet meticulously clean crew at that. Doesn't it? The block around the one man's face is a reflection on the movie camera lens.

The first question to ask yourself is how this spotless, unwrinkled crew managed to find multiple bodies of children, all dirty and dusty from being buried under tons of concrete, somewhere around the corner. Then they would have had to extract them from that rubble, and all without getting a single spec of dust on any of them before carrying them up a hill to where the actual building strike widely reported in the MSM took place. You'll also see them making certain the press was precisely positioned, just as they wanted them to be when they arrived.

Note, their uniforms are, not only spotless, they don't have a single wrinkle and, for all intents and purposes, came right out of a bag, or off a shelf. To emphasize that point, I've included a small image of one of them from the waste down. (at Left) The images have not been brightened, or altered.

There is no dirt on the knees and any wrinkles look, as I said, as though they came as they would fresh out of a package similar to the kind in which such outfits are stored or sold. The obviously long dead children they carry are covered with cement dust and dirt just as the press was clear to point out to us all. Not a spec of which got on these men as they allegedly recovered them. And that's only the beginning, please hang with me here.

The second image from the top on the right is labeled call out. That's important to note, because with the glare and others moving about, it can be difficult to see what are signals being sent between our motley crew and our friend in the Green Helmet at the top of the hill. The purpose was to have the media right where they belonged.

The slow motion video is at one fifth speed - and there are other items you will see exposed. The video at bottom will make this all clear.

In essence, when the leader of the group came around the corner, first he called out to Mr. Green Helmet to let him know that they were there. That was acknowledged, as Mr. Green Helmet began to corral the press.

Unfortunately, some of the press weren't behaving as planned. Then you will see our leader in the orange vest briefly directing traffic on top of the hill he is approaching by waving his left arm.

He wants to make absolutely certain that there is nothing between him and the cameras as the spotless, yet allegedly hard working, hard digging rescue crew carries a child's lifeless body up the hill. And they do it more than once.

This will all be even more clear in a full length, full speed version I will link at lgf. But some of this stuff is hard to pick out if you aren't looking for it. But it's absolutely there.

I'm simply giving you reference points and supporting what actually took place at this stage in Qana. It is clearly a planned media event and the bodies did not come from the building which everyone claimed. That site is at the top of the hill the men eventually climb. The Qana tragedy was not around the corner in parts unknown and now unknowable from where these and other men came with children's bodies.

The next image on the Left is called clean signal. In the full length video, one gets the impression that our orange vested leader is simply adjusting his helmet. He isn't. That's partly why I did a short version in slow motion. In fact, if you notice in the full video at lgf, the helmet is strapped down tight.

It becomes obvious he is sending a signal, as he is forced to send it twice. The purpose is to let Mr. Green Helmet know they are about to pick up the stretcher, with a body which has been dead quite some time - rigor mortis having long ago set in. After everything is arranged at the top, it's only then that they begin their journey up the hill. That's very clear.

Okay on with the show. You must watch for a few things. When they round the corner they are far down a hill. They come into focus because the camera zooms, not because they are getting close, yet. I'll give times for events, but YouTube may alter that.

At seventeen seconds in he calls out to the top of the hill. But things are not ready, so they set the stretcher down. He isn't happy and at 48 seconds in he starts waving his left arm. You must also watch his vest to see the shadow of his arm to see he is quite clearly waving people off to his left. Perhaps Mr. Green Helmet's little girl voice isn't having its intended effect. That voice is in the full video at lgf, this one is silent.

At this point, he thinks they're set and reaches up and touches his hands to his head. Keep in mind, you are watching this at about 1/5 speed. There's no adjusting anything at full speed, the touch is far too quick.

But something's wrong. He pauses and waits, staring up the hill, looking somewhat frustrated. What a caring soul this is. Finally satisfied, he touches his head again, turns to his partner behind him - and they introduce a new, but hardly recently dead child unto the scene at Qana.

And there's more - and more bodies to come. The image above Right is important. It's another group with at least one additional body, likely more. Also note, aside from Mr. Green Helmet - some wear gloves, some don't. For those that do, they are completely clean, unlike Mr. Green Helmet, who we know was very involved in the dig.

The photo above on the right I already mentioned was taken long distance. I doubt they knew they were being watched at that point. Even that image is blown up 200%. The man in the army clothing, front Left of the stretcher is important, as you'll see.

On the Left above is Mr. Green Helmet, gazing off, looking whatever for the camera. What's important is that the child is covered with a blanket. It's a pity they didn't simply cover all of her and leave her there. But it gets worse in an image I've named child abuse.

As you'll see, our fatigue wearing stretcher bearer has entered the ambulance and, not enough to just have his picture taken with the dead child, he grotesquely grabs her up, allows the blanket to all but fall on the floor, simply so he can display that poor dead young child for the cameras once more. And he does it rather crudely, at that - no gloves. That isn't one of the bodies they carried, as far as I can tell.

It's important to note, he was not identified as a soldier. He was identified as a civilian, yet he is wearing a brand new Lebanese Army outfit that does not fit him at all. He, along with all of those bringing bodies up from around the corner, is squeaky clean.

Images of Lebanese soldiers on site show them to all be neat, though dusty, with their shirt sleeves rolled up to above their elbow tightly. There are officers around. This civilian wears the uniform almost like a robe. And he was dressed that way while supposedly working, so it isn't as if it's the end of the day and he cleaned himself up, or borrowed ill-fitting clothes when done for the day.

In another image I'll provide below, you'll see that this man had to roll up the sleeves simply because they are far too long for him. Even rolled, they come all the way to the cuff. Ask yourself, is that the face of a caring civilian who volunteers, perhaps with the red cross? Sorry, I don't think so.

In the image at Left you will see what I mean about the ill-fitting uniform. You will also see another of the stretcher bearers. And, again, not a single spec of dust.

No dirt on their hands, no remnants of all that dusty concrete on their knees. They are squeaky clean. Yet, somehow, they are able to deliver more and more dead children's bodies unto the scene.

These are fit men, look at the fellow in the black tee shirt. It certainly isn't your average beer drinking volunteer fireman helping out at a terrible scene.

The image at left also confirms the ill-fitting nature of the uniform of our fatigued civilian - witness the cuffed up but still almost too long sleeves.

And, again, there's the spotless nature of these men delivering long dead and dingy children's bodies.

Now, please remember the following points as you watch the short slow motion video.

The leader of the group comes around the corner, calls out to Mr. Green Helmut, Mr. Green Helmet begins to corral the press. The camera zooms in but they are not ready up top. They set the stretcher down and the orange vested leader uses his left arm to direct the scene until it's as he wants it. Watch the arm and especially the shadow of it on his chest. He touches his helmet, eventually twice, then these squeaky clean fellows who haven't done a bit of digging bring another young body into the scene with the media capturing it all. Remember, the head touches to a strapped down helmet are at 1/5 speed, more signal, than anything. The only caveat I'd add is that, if the alleged signaling isn't taking place, it doesn't matter.

Is he rolling his arms and not directing the crowd? Again, I think that's debatable. What isn't debatable is the staging of the appearance of the bodies and the fact that multiple bodies were carried from another location by individuals displaying absolutely no sign of having been digging, clearing, etc. Obviously their entrance was staged and there isn't a spec of dirt or even dust on any of them. So where did these bodies come from? These men did NOT dig them out. I very much doubt that they were somehow the only two designated stretcher bearers that day, remaining squeaky clean while everyone else rummaged around in the debris for bodies.

That simply makes no sense. And if they brought enough bodies onto the scene this way from around that mysterious corner, it is possible that while Qana certainly resulted in some civilian deaths, it was nothing like the massacre we've been told.

Take a look.

Whether the last item I'll include is accurate, or not, I can't say. But it did come from a tip that Mr. Green Helmet has some acquaintance with Hizbollah. That comes from someone overseas. Another blogger has a different idea who the man might be. Personally, I don't care. Clearly part of Qana was a media parade with direction and some unknown number of not recently dead children being brought out from around a corner by a crew that obviously hadn't been doing a bit of digging all day. That does not add up. Now does it?

I've inset the head of our fatigue wearing civilian into a picture of an obvious  Hizbollah Operative. Whether it's him, or not, I can't really say for sure. What I do believe is that he was part of the propaganda machine at Qana that day. Hopefully now you agree.

Please take a look at the full video at lgf.

Comments

[Randy]

I still think that the Hizbollah fighter in the last photo is most likely "white t-shirt", rather than the clown in the too-big military garb from the other photo above... but the guy with the military garb is almost certainly the man from the final photo in one of your earlier posts, where he may be covering up a dead lama
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/08/two_new_media_b.html

[Hamza]

You really think they would bother? The simple truth in all of this is that the 'Israeli state terrorists' are committing such awful crimes against woman and children that there is no need to dramatise it - it is plain to see.

[Randy]

I'm not a regular commenter here Hamza, so I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or if you're a leftwing nut... But if you are the latter (and this goes for anyone else who might seriously make comments like yours), you wanna talk about "awful crimes"? Who targets civilians? Hizbollah (and Hamas and all Palestinian terrorists while we're at it). Who occassionly accidentally kills civilians when striking terrorists who happen to hide behind them? Israel. You lefties don't get it. Hezbos launch rockets to kill any Jew that is unlucky enough to get hit. Israelis go after Hezbos, and it just so happens they hide in the population just for this propaganda. This isn't conspiracy theory stuff, this is known fact. Now, here's the most simple way to break it down. If Hezbollah lays down weapons, we can have peace. If Israel lays down their weapons, they get slaughtered by Muslim terrorists. I know you liberals get the distinction, but by virtue of being liberals you're not allowed to be honest about.... anything really.

[sigmund, carl and alfred]

World class post.

[Ed]

Dan, I absolutely agree with you.

Now, can Glenn Greenwald prove where he was durinq these events? Don't you think that Mr. GREEN helmet and Mr. GREENwald may have the same IP address? The obvious GREEN connection more than proves your point.

I think it's clear, these pictures are from Brazil, and were dropped into Lebanon by the black UN helicopters.

Once again, you've nailed it!

[Captain Joe]

Reuter fauxtog Adnan Haijj has set a new standard for the MSM in propaganda. He deserves a Pulitzer.

[Pablo]

"The simple truth in all of this..."

...is that your genocidal, Jew hating friends are making things up for world consumption. it isn't the first time and it likely isn't the last. Sorry, Hamza. Even pictures that lie will still tell the truth.

[William]

Hi Pablo, no you're wrong. Pictures that lie, lie.

The most important thing to realise here is that you're not supposed to be finding who's right or wrong. Israel lost reason when it lost patience and invaded. If every nuclear nation did what Israel did we would not be here. Thank goodness Russia, France and the USA have more civilized people in power.

[William]

To Randy: Israel is plain dead wrong to kill anyone in response to another killing. If hezbollah is a terrorist group, then does Israel have the right to behave just like the terrorists? It is FACT, proven, that Israel has murdered hundreds of innocents over there and no I am not a LEFTIE, and yes I am outraged to see the plain stupidity of israelis to support this shit. Is State killing any better than terrorist killing? Does it solve anything? Has Israel ever been at peace? Why are most nations of the world in peace but no, arabs and israelis can't find peace. You know why? Because both sides are wrong, they are proud, they are arrogant, both sides are proud to kill and proud to show one dead from the other side. Both hezbollah and Israel operate on the same level of dignity and as long as they both love their military toys more than they love their children, they will continue to kill each other. So don't come here with your jewish or republican or whatever activism to defend one side or the other, the world is watching loud and live how Israel behaves just like the hezbollah and there is no ammount of campaigning you can do to change the live and clear picture of Israel killing innocent people just like hezbollah does.

[William]

Lastly about the video, if they went to the painstaking detail and premeditation you accuse them of, would they not have bothered to stain themselves with some blood and dust? Because I think there is no lack of blood there to splash on each other's uniforms. Are the ones carrying the dead the same ones working under the rubble? This post is a pile of pure distilled BS.

[Dan Riehl]

This post is a pile of pure distilled BS

Yet you haven't refuted one single event that it shows. And you suggest that those men being squeaky clean is, what? Proof they were digging for bodies? Enjoy your kool aide, lay off the dope, dope.

[patricia beecher]

i take great offense at Randy's remark about liberals inability to be honest. I am a liberal, yet i agree with, so far, everything i have read here. I do beleive hezbo is hiding behind civilians and that if isreal puts down thier weapons they will be slaughtered by terrorists. So Randy, i would be wary of making such nasty generalizations about liberals, ok??? Just because I am not in favor with everything our President does does not make me dishonest. I would appreciate an apology.....

[annie]

I believe that Hezbollah and the Palastinians are masters of manipulation, or they think they are.

That is until people really stop to look at incidents like this.

I have noticed over the years that whenever there is a camera around and those Palastinian women suddenly notice it, then on comes the agonised look and the wail, like they are rehearsed in it.

The other day I was watching a man in Lebanon supposedly writhing in agony and making the accompanying grimaces, after becoming a victim of 'Israeli aggression' being carried along on a stretcher.

Unfortunately for him, the camera kept on filming once they had passed and further up the road the men put down the stretcher, and the man suddenly jumped off and ran away. Didn't look much wrong with him then!!

And how can we get the impression that they care much for human life when they encourage little children to be suicide bombers when they grow up, if not before.

What kind of religion is that?

[William]

Dan, excuse me, have a look at these please. It seems the Madrid officials may have inserted bodies on the trains in March 11, look, the uniforms! Glaring clean!!!!

http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/images/madrid_bombing.jpg

And this, geez, we're onto something here! Clean uniforms in exploded trains!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39878000/jpg/_39878584_picallinjuredap.jpg

Oh goodness, Al jazeera may have doctored this one! All the uniforms, squeaky clean!

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20photo%20negatives/2004%20phot%20originals/March/train11c.jpg

Look, this one clearly shows spanish officers conspiring to hide something, I think it's a body!! Oh my God!

http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/uploads/555madrid1.jpg

Puhleeze.....it's real, real, dead people on those images Dan....

See what I mean? Prayers for all the Madrid victims, as well as the victimes of Hezbollah and of Israel, sorry to use these as example, but this situation begged it.

[grinnel]

Dan, time to get Riehl, er, REAL. Go to to some photos of the World Trade Center, during recovery efforts in the days after 9/11. There you will see hundreds of photos of rescue/recovery workers ... some FILTHY WITH DUST AND DEBRIS, others nearly SPOTLESS. Why is that? Well, those like you do plenty of assuming so let me do some of my own: not all rescue and recovery personnel dig through rubble to do their job. Some receive the remains after they've been dug out then take them to the trucks.

Unless of course the WTC photos were staged. If so, I'm outraged.

Tell a lie long enough and make it big, and it eventually becomes the truth, eh Dan?

[DirtCrashr]

They faked it. They've been faking things for a long time with the assistance of the Media, Reuters in particular, and it's coming out - long-tellign lies.

[PeterUK]

"Is State killing any better than terrorist killing? Does it solve anything?"

Nah! Well perhaps the Third Reich and the Great East Asia Co-Prosperity Group. They seem to have disappeared from the scene.

[Kathy]

Dan, I do not understand what you're trying to put across here. What part of what you wrote has a connection to your claim that the deaths at Qana were faked?

I also viewed the entire video at lgf, as you pleaded with us to do, and I still don't get it. Supposedly, according to some woman who is quoted at lgf, the man in the video cannot be trusted because he has a high voice ("girlish" according to whoever this woman commentator is) and because his clothes look clean. Also, according to this woman, the man in the video is saying ("claiming," according to her) that the rescue workers couldn't reach the building before 8 a.m. because of road conditions and the danger of being hit by Israeli airstrikes. This sounds plausible to me, although I don't know where this woman's translation comes from or why I should trust it.

So what time is it when this video is taken? How long ago was the "8 a.m." the rescue worker is referring to? What is the time frame here?

Long question short: *What are you basing your claims of faked children's deaths on*?

[Dan Riehl]

your claim that the deaths at Qana were faked?

I can only respond to questions pertinent to what I've written. I stated it was obvious media manipulation going on, and "possibly" some of the children came from somewhere else other than the single building so in the news. And I stand by that.

[Phoenix]

Annie,

"What kind of religion is that?" No kidding. The endless replays of Hezbollah marching in that grand march the MSM keeps playing - sort of like the grand march of the goose-steppers in North Korean - ... you see little tiny boys marching along in full uniform. What *thinking* person looks at that and turns around and tries to make these terrorists into something they are not - human. Insects eat their young. Not humans.

[Randy]

Sorry about the generalization Patricia Beecher but you may want to take a look at your friends... Virtually every liberal I encounter is such a Kool Aid drinker that they are blinded by the most simple truths. It has nothing to do with agreeing with Bush, so don't try to spin it that way. Let me break it down... it's almost impossible to find a liberal who wouldn't say that Bush lied about WMDs. We know that anyone saying that Bush lied about WMDs is themselves lying, or just being willingly ignorant (which is no better). Just a small example, but this is where the "all liberals are dishonest" view comes from.

As for William, are you an idiot? I have heard some idiocy out of liberals on the internet, but I think you take the cake today bud:

Israel is plain dead wrong to kill anyone in response to another killing.

I'm speechless.

If hezbollah is a terrorist group, then does Israel have the right to behave just like the terrorists?

Reread my earlier comment again genius... Israel is attacking terrorist strongholds. The terrorist (by nature) set up their strongholds in civilian areas hoping first that it may protect them from being attacked, and if not, that they'll then have propaganda to use (i.e. dead children). Then, Hezbos don't attack Israeli troops... they launch rockets randomly in to Israel by the hundreds hoping to kill as many random people as possible. Whatever, I don't know why I'm explaining this to you (pssst, patricia these are the types of dillusional liberals that give you all a bad name, because they are a much larger group than you)

and no I am not a LEFTIE,
Ha! Do you think you're the first far left nut to say you're not a lefty when commenting on a conservative blog? We see that opening line constantly. Nice try.

Is State killing any better than terrorist killing? Does it solve anything?
Well, when the state is targeting terrorists and the terrorist are targeting civilians... yes, the state killing is better. Thanks for asking.

Why are most nations of the world in peace but no, arabs and israelis can't find peace.
Because they (terrorists) would like to murder every Jew and constantly attack civilians... and because Jews aren't too thrilled about that.

[Randy]

ah crap, I didn't know these comments didn't take HTML... well, much of what I just said were quotes from William's earlier response to me, and my individual response to each.. you can figure it out

[reliapundit]

it seems to me that the reflection is of a WINDOW, slightly obscurred by the man holding the video-camera videotaping a videotape of the scene on a TV.

probably to obscure the origianl source.

[William]

Randy, congratulations - you managed to waste 40 minutes on your reply and you said nothing. "Conservative" and whatever don't make sense to me, whatever you are trying to label me is just an attempt to cover your ignorance of world history, human dignity and the obvious results of the lunacy that is taking place in the middle east.

About your comments on violence and such, I stated what I stated based on the current context. I don't know about you, but my family has plenty of veterans and we helped destroy the nazis. Don't you dare compare innocent libanese civilians to the nazi. And why do you put yourself on israel's boat? Jews and israel defend what's theirs, during this time in history they happen to be sided with conservatives, during nixon's presidency they hated nixon. You are being mass maneuver once more, like the 30% of americans who still support your supreme leader george bush.

About being leftie, liberal, whatever - I can be anything as long as I am on the right side and my conscience is clear. This time around I happen to be what you call liberal, leftie, because you want to label me at any cost. But I have no label, I have only knowledge to take you on any debate and show everyone how limited your history knowledge is.

[William]

Randy, by the way, where i come from a conservative is what you wear so you don't get your girl pregnant.

[Aussie]

Willaim,

it is obvious to me that your posts lack a lot of maturity. It is also obvious that you have not been taught how to analyze the truth so that you do not become one of the sheep who follow along when presented with a Hitler like figure. That sounds a lot like a leftie to this middle of the road person.

I love the bit about "so long as my conscience is clear", because that is pure BS reasoning as far as I am concerned.

I am not involved in American politics. I am not involved in British politics. I am not a Jew. I am definitely not a Muslim sympathizer. However, I do believe that the people of Lebanon deserve to be freed from the tyranny of the strings that are being pulled from Syria and Iran.

Now for some of the other rather stupid remarks and little boy comments that you have made upon this list:

Are you implying that Muslim terrorists who were members of Al Qaeda did not commandeer aircraft and fly them into the twin towers of the WTC? I hope not.Are you implying that the horrendous scenes that looked like something out of War of the Worlds did not happen? I hope not.

Israel has more right to exist than the Iranian Revolutionary Guard trained Hezbollah. These people are extremist and they know how to manipulate a situation to make themselves look good in the eyes of the world.

Yes, I think that the photographs were staged. I have seen photos from other sites, and the children had visible signs of injury from a blast. This is not evident in the children in Qana. The workers who were photographed in the "rubble" were too pristine considering they were supposed to have been trying to find people trapped in the rubble.

The Qana photographs were an exercise in chicanery. That does not mean that no one died, and there are plenty of questions to be asked, such as: what really caused the building to collapse? I have a gut feeling that this was not caused by an Israeli bomb. Why were these children manhandled in that way? I have seen another photograph from another area of southern Beirut, and the baby boy who is about 2 was also held up as though he was a trophy. Then when you see the photograph of his father, you know that the person holding up the little body was a member of Hezbollah who was gleeful that another baby had died because of the way in which they use civilians to shield their disgusting deeds.

[William]

Aussie, if the Lebanese wanted to be freed, they'd ask for it. As for being a leftie hitler follower, Hitler was the most extreme right wing leader ever, you show plain stupid ignorance - look who's the sheep here. I posted several photos above to ridicule the original post, all spanish uniforms squeaky clean, yet no comments on that. Perhaps I'm a leftie to believe the spanish did not fraud the images... Peace.

[William]

Take care not to free the Lebanese like they "freed" the Iraqi. To me the only free thing in Iraq is hell running loose. So much for "conservatives" in power. How I miss Shimon Peres and Itzak Rabin.

[bernie]

You leftists make me laugh. Muslims would never kill each other or blow each other up but only do so because "We" are in Iraq? You poor misquided fools, Muslims blow themselves up because that is what Muslims do. When Saddam was in power he was brutalizing Shia. Now, at least, they can fight back. Shia and Sunni kill themselves all over the globe, in places where we are not the occupying force, yet those countries continue to exist and thrive.

What, you liked it better when only one side (Saddam's) had the unfair advantage? More people were killed under Saddam than are dying now so on the whole it is safer than Detroit.

And spare me that we should have attacked countries that directly threatened us, like North Korea. If we attacked North Korea, you liberals would have been crying in your lattes that North Korea didn't kill hundreds of thousands like Saddam and that we should have attacked Saddam, instead.

It doesn't matter what the US does, your hatred of Bush prevents you from accepting anything our country does. You would never, ever have been satisfied.

Iraq is not the problem - you leftists are the problem.

As for Qana, Hassan Shar-Mootah orchestrated the whole fake "massacre" as documented in Hezbollah held children until they could be blown up

[bernie]

Link did not show: http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/07/hezbollah_held_child.html

[bernie]

Regarding the Madrid emergency teams:

No one in those photos asserted or claimed that they "just" rescued the victims. They could be the last-responders who minister to those who are brought to them.

In the Qana photos - the strong suggestion is that Mr Green Helmut just dug these kids out of the rubble but curiously had not a peck of dust on him. The rescuers in Madrid did not parade a sole victim to be photographed dozens of times pretending they just pulled someone out of a wrecked train. As for the men carrying the dead bodies in Madrid, I saw some bright yelow smock that looked rather dingy to me. Perhaps you have a better grained photo?

[rwilymz]

"...you are trying to label me is just an attempt to cover your ignorance of world history..."

My ears pricked up at that.

I don't recall the extant discussion concerning much in the way of History, per se, but instead diving nose-first into military doctrine. And William ... stick with "Risk". At least with the board game you can't get killed for real. You simply lose Australia. What you seem to be advocating for Israel, under the ever-so-pious heading of "human dignity" is otherwise known as national suicide.

I'm sure you'll protest, but I doubt Israel will oblige you your self-righteousness.

[Gerardo D]

Oh please, stop this deliberae intention to bias information on Qana and the whole thing. That's a lie too. Of course, both sides (lebanese and israelis) would show things partially. OF course, nothing comparable to what US governments do with information. But that if there was 30 instead of 40 killed in Qana adds nothing to the facts. Israel is blatantly invading another country, killing many civilians by airstrikes, all because of the kidnapping of two soldiers (not pregnant mothers or invalids) at the frontier by Hezbollah. The hizbollah rockets over Israel come after israeli first airstrikes. IF pictures can lie, see the figures: about 980 lebanese (mostly civilians) against aprox. 110 israelis (85 of them soldiers).
Whose population is suffering the worse?
And if you go back in time, this 10 to 1 toll proportion keeps along the years, and wth even more difference against the palestines.
It seems that Israel is the only country in the world allowed to react like they did against a weak neighbour.

[rwilymz]

"It seems that Israel is the only country in the world allowed to react like they did against a weak neighbour."

All nations are allowed to act like that. What Hezbollah did was called "act of war". Acts of war are allowed to be met with -- hang onto your hat, Geraldo -- war.

In war people get hurt, particularly if the people who committed the acts of war like to hide themselves among civilians and dress like civilians. You wanna weep for the Palestinians? then advise them to not attack Israel and then go hide behind their women.

[OPerational Art]

This wont be over till the Arabs are reduced to the point that they realize war is an unthinkable course of action. As it stands now, Hamas, Hezbollah, (Insert islamic looney group here), whoever will fire a few rounds, collect a few donations and then hide nehind the baby carriages until the world in moral indignation saves them.

As I recall, it was the US Navy that saved Arafat from Israel years ago.

[F. Rottles]

On that day, well into the proceedings, Mr. Green Helmet said that there were 210 victims at Qana.

That's 210. Not "about 200", but two-hundred-ten. An odd estimate.

The Red Cross now reports there were 28 dead and and as many as 35 survivors.

Someone might inquire of Green Helment: on what basis had he told the Aljazeerhah TV camera and, later, a Newsweek reporter that there were 210 casualaties.

In both cases, he explicilty made the link to the 1996 incident at Qana in which about 100 people had died.

Was Green Helmet attempting to portray this collapsed house as having buried twice the number of bodies?

Also note: Newsweek reported the account of one survivor who had gone to sleep in the basement of the house with her two young daughters. They slept on mattresses on the floor. The building collapsed, she said, but her family dug her out. She said that her two daughters were also retrieved, dead, but that they had been dug out first -- because they were in the rubble above her.

1. There were people on-hand to immediately dig out survivors and the dead.

2. This occured almost 7 hours before Green Helment showed up with his refrigeration truck and his crew of dustfree "rescue workers".

Also note that there was time enough, and apparently enough hands available, to remove any signs of Hezbollah presence at that site.

Meanwhile, Green Helmet is reportedly the travelling moritician for a government hospital in Tyre. Qana is midway between Tyre and Bint Jbeil, where heavy fighting had been taking place that day. The distance from Tyre to Bint Jbeil is about 12 kilometers.

[G]

In response to the most idiot statement a person has ever made -- "Israel is plain dead wrong to kill anyone in response to another killing."

William, you are the dumbest, most wrong, disgusting, idiotic person ever to walk the earth. You should go back to your hole and never come out. Israel has defended itself over and over again. Israel has never evoked war on anyone other to protect itself and its civilians. People like you make this world a horrible place, I suppose you enjoyed watching the bombing of the World Trade Towers, and you probably celebrated during the Oklahoma bombing, you are a DISGUSTING PERSON with no soul. I feel sorry for you because of how stupid you are. It's a shame they let people like you walk freely on the streets. Next time you feel the need to post such stupidity, instead why not hold a gun to your own head and pull the trigger? You would be doing the world a service.

[Nora]

Another fact that I dont think has been mentioned here is that the Israeli airforce bombed the building at 1am, but the building exploded and collapsed SEVEN hours later at 8am (this was also verified by a Russian satellite!) so was the building full of rockets and/or explosives with Hezb knowing full well Israeli response was imminent and that basement was full of children and other civillians or even more sickening, after the bombing at 1am, did Hezbollah exploit incident and blow up building themselves? I dont think we can ever know the truth, but I'm dead certain they are capable of it. One thing's for sure, all the fake photos, exaggerations and biased reportings (especially by BBC) turned international opinion against Israel and forced Olmert to accept ceasefire instead of waiting for Hezbollah to wave the white flag! Well done on the blog! The truth is out there.. Nora, Israel.

[Warmongers Anonymous]

Except that the IDF has said it is responsible for this atrocity. And this is from and Israeli source. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3285572,00.html
"On Sunday, a building in Qana was bombed by the IDF and later collapsed... Findings, which were presented to the Chief of General Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz authenticated previous IDF statements regarding the attack: the building was struck at 00:25 Sunday by two bombs launched by the IAF. One of the bombs exploded and the other was apparently a dud."

[Nora]

To: Warmongers Anon.
We've read the same article and the IDF is not responsible for the this atrocity. The findings verified the fact that Israel DID attack the building, which it had never denied. The whole point is that Hizbollah launched rockets from there KNOWING FULL WELL THAT CHILDREN WERE THERE AND THAT AN ISRAELI ATTACK WAS IMMINENT! There are even some claims that a hospital was emptied of its handicapped children who were brought to Qana ON PURPOSE for this sick scenario to create a Qana Two. No matter which way you look at it, Hizbollah exploited their citizens and probably for them, the more civillian deaths, the better.