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Dan, no one in their right mind would disagree with your general conclusion. I just want to point out that there are still a few exceptions to the "Democrats are ... " rule. Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman come to mind immediately. Also, ... Also ... I'll be back when I think of someone else.

hmm sort of put all democrats in a corner and put a lable on them,
it just doesn't work that way Dan neither to the Republicans. Are you really telling me that 48% of the Americans are traitors? what do you want to do with them?

what do you want to do with them?

Nothing, other than prevent them from assuming control of the government.

I followed the links and read. What is it about democrats that they harp relentlessly on what went wrong? Name one war that went right. And yet, that is not the point at all. The point is NOW. They don't like being 'framed' as being this or that against our country's best interests, but they offer nothing valid to keep us secure. Just reading two of the articles left my intellect going..."And?" "Yes?" Oh, and they're all about the importance of 'words have meaning'. Okay, so why is it there is no meaning in what they say other than to blame blame blame.......Blame never solved a damn thing.

Cardinal rule of debate: Offer a valid solution if you're going to bitch.

This is Twilight Zone stuff... god.

Dan, I think you fail to make a clear distinction between thought and act: to disagree with the war or the president's policies is not treason; to villify the president for them (like Gore and other Demss), give classified information to the opponent (like the NYT) and spread the opponent's propaganda (like the MSM) is, most definitely, treason.

Oh, lefty tools: let me explain it to you in terms you can understand: in terms of the redundant and unconstitutional hate speech laws.

You may dislike yellow people with perfect impunity in the United States; after all, you are entitled to your opinion, which is covered by the first amendment. Thus, you may stand on the corner with an 'I Hate Yellow People' sign. It is perfectly legal--though unsavory. The cops might harrass you, but the court will let you off with a slap on the wrist. OTOH, you may not incite others to harm yellow people. You can't stand on a street corner with a sign saying 'Kill Yellow People'. That is clearly a crime and punishable by jail time.

Your efforts to bring down the administration and impeach the president for a difference of political opinion put you squarely in the treason zone.

oh you loopy rightist: let me explain it to you in terms you can understand:

oppostition to the failed policies of a failed president is not treason.

The problem is not difference of opinion. The problem is gross incompetence, cronyism, and a total disregard for the constitution and the damage that is doing to our republic.

okay dan i got your answer here, dont you think 48% is a little too much to just ignore? i think that's where you go wrong and people believing this, you'll loose if you don't take these people valuable

I'm thinking impeaching the president would be a good idea. If he steps down then we get Cheney for two years. GREAT STRATEGY!

The real traitors are those who have squandered American lives, goodwill, and treasure, on a misbegotten adventure under false pretenses.

They have made our nation and our children's tomorrow less safe.

Osama is gloating in his cave, because the actions of this administration have expanded his legions and support more than a thousandfold. Let's stop giving him the gift that keeps on giving.

It is one thing to make an honest mistake, but to continue on this course, and to continue to support it blindly, is the real treason.

"The problem is not difference of opinion."

I disagree.


"The problem is gross incompetence"

Then wither Carter's impeachment?


"cronyism"

??? Yeah? And? Name one prez who didn't crony up to the Oval Office.


"and a total disregard for the constitution"

Washington created "executive privilege"; Adams agitated for "alien and sedition"; Jefferson waged undeclared war [against the same pan-islamists, by the way]; ... Jackson told the Chief Justice, "That's a fine ruling; let's see you enforce it"; ... Lincoln suspended habeas corpus [you remember, the deal with arresting people for no reason and holding them until you feel like letting them go]; ... Wilson, the Espionage and Sedition acts, and something about checks and balances being the problem with American governance; ... FDR packed the court, created government-sponsored ponzis, and threw all japanese in jail for being japanese; ... any truly Presidential Historian could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on...

"and the damage that is doing to our republic."

Do me a favor, Mr Unsubstantiated Allegation: define this "damage".

"dont you think 48% is a little too much to just ignore?"

Probably. But then this 48% would prefer to ignore the other 51%. So you kinda got a Mexican Standoff.

"Osama is gloating in his cave"

The seat of power fabled in song and story.


"the actions of this administration have expanded his legions and support more than a thousandfold"

Really? What's he gonna pay those thousandfold with? His funds have been frozen. How's he gonna arm them? Guns and the chemicals to cook C4 cost $$.

Oh, right, right. He'll have his funding back after the pressure from NYT editorials curtails international banking cooperation and thaws out his accounts. Forgot about that one.

Al Qaida is not like Hamas; they receive no government funding. They're self-financed, from Osama's private stash and bake sale reciepts.

A fundless group of a thousandfold increased crowd of pissed-off rabble is a group of pissed-off rabble a thousand times bigger. Without weaspons or the means to get them, they are militarily irrelevant.


"Let's stop giving him the gift that keeps on giving"

Then keep the NYT quiet.


"It is one thing to make an honest mistake, but to continue on this course, and to continue to support it blindly, is the real treason."

That's eerily similar to what critics were saying of Lincoln, even after he promoted Grant [*particularly* after he promoted Grant, in some quarters]. Victories were few, costs were tremendous, backbiting was legion. Anti-war riots occured in several northern cities, and were worst in NYC.

Split the Union? Wuzzat the solution? Because you don't understand the themes, are ignorant of the mechanics, and yet still demand smooth transitions and you've discerned a bump in the road, it's all now a critical mistake, and support for the nation is, itself, treason?


Advice: stock up on bubble wrap. I have a feeling you'll need all you can get.

Bubble wrap? How about Saran Wrap? We should Saran Wrap the entire United States for thirty days. Nothing in, nothing out. Airtight and secure.

I wonder how many outside our fine little bubble of in statu quo ante bellum would die? A thousand-fold?

Millions?

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