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While I agree with you overall on the need for enforcement first, I do have a question. Guest worker programs are not a new idea, in fact we've had several before.

Can you give me one example of a guest worker program that had a good outcome? I can't seem to find even one, so it seems the height of folly to say we'll be pursuing a policy that has failed repeatedly in the past. In fact the most common reasons the earlier programs were shut down was fraud and abuse of the guest workers, so you know, it really seems like we're setting ourselves up for something nice down the road, no?

Also, I've been arguing that a guest worker program is actually the preferred outcome as opposed to amnesty. Amnesty creates citizens with all attendant rights and obligations, a guest worker program creates government subsidized serfs. I think this whole charade has been geared toward that outcome as being most desirable to big business which is the enemy here as you so ably noted.

just wonderin.

Thanks,
Jake

Oh, one other thought. Business, who is lying to us in so very many ways on this issue assures us they require guest workers. Why should we believe them?

I have worked in hospitality for thirty years and love to make this point. Pre-86 there were plenty of people to staff restaurants and hotels without resorting to illegals, post 86 every restaurant in the country would have to close it's doors without illegals, why? What changed exactly? And are those places that have yet to be colonized by illegals without restaurants and hotels?

And of course wages in hospitality have been stagnant or falling since, oh, let's say 86. A mystery, you decide.

I live in Chicago and never worked with an illegal alien until 88. Who was doing all that work previously? Now, well you better speak fluent Spanish if you want a job in large sections of the industry these days.

I can say confidently that every job that should be filled, would be filled if we deported every illegal alien tomorrow.

Nice comments, Jake. I just thought of something because of what you wrote. I read something a while ago about the 'Twixters' - kids of the baby boomers and how about 30% between the ages of 10-29 still live at home. This was detailed as a sharp increase compared to the 80's and 90's. So, not only are we subsidizing the illegals, parents are stuck subsidizing their own children who would be the ones filling those jobs you speak of as many young people cannot find jobs - especially for those who did not go to college. The article stated, as well, that many young people go off to college only to come home again. Sounds to me as if we have a huge work force out there ready to go. And plenty of parents who'd be glad to see them go.....

just wonderin

If you look into the deep background what appears is that organizations set up to provide jobs to Americans before guest workers don't work and when they do, Americans tend to fill the jobs. What business is banking on is no enforcement, so they can continue to employ illegals and pass the costs for healthcare and social services, etc off on to us.

They dontr want guest workers - they'd cost too much which is why I call this a shell game. Enforcement will never happen, especially as regards employers. They pay too much into campaigns for that too happen. The big business wing of the Rep party is running this show.

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