Holloway Suspect Fights Extradition - Parents Warn Press

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The Aruban boy who was apprehended last week in Utrecht is trying to prevent his extradiction to Aruba. His lawyer Gerard Spong has herefore started summary proceedings against the State. This procedure will be adressed in court in The Hague on Tuesday.

According to Spong his client is accused of being principal in the second degree of murder, severe assault and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway. The American student disappeared during a holiday with her classmates on Aruba in the night of may 29nth to may 30th last year. She has been without trace since then.

The new suspect is acquainted with Joran van der Sloot, who was the first to be accussed in having had a role in Holloway's disappearence. Van der Sloot has admitted that he kept the girl company on the night of her disappearence but has denied having done anything wrong. He remains a principal suspect in this notorious case.

Witness

The new suspect is a friend of Van der Sloot. He was a croupier in the hotel where Holloway stayed. The boy was arrested by request of the Aruban Prosecution Counsel. In an earlier stage of the investigation he was already interrogated several times as a witness. He is the tenth to be arrested in the Holloway case.

The (divorced) parents of the new suspect have issued a statement in English through the law firm of Spong. They express horror over their sons arrest. “This came like a bolt from the blue”. They trust on a positive ending. “We are all innocent untill proven guilty. That also counts for our son”.

Warning

The statement also contains a warning to the media. Especcially the American media has in the past thrown themselves like vultures on the case. The parents of the new suspect state that they will legally prosecute by whatever means necessary every media that goes too far in their eyes. They will defend themselves in every confrontation with the press.

Comments

[J Reane]

Or you can just admit that you're not really a conservative. You're not, after all. Some of us have known you, Dan! You've taken your identity crisis way too far. Richard Viguerie reflects Dan Riehl's values?

No way dude.

[Dan]

Richard Viguerie reflects Dan Riehl's values?

I think you put this in the wrong place. Please don't confuse conservativism in general gov. terms with social conservatism. Kesler addresses the vast differences among conservatives in his post linked in the Revolution post. While not an utter social liberal, or even a libertarian, I certainly don't advocate the gov. dictating the fine details of people's lives.

[c]

Warning

The statement also contains a warning to the media. Especcially the American media has in the past thrown themselves like vultures on the case. The parents of the new suspect state that they will legally prosecute by whatever means necessary every media that goes too far in their eyes. They will defend themselves in every confrontation with the press.

Monday, May 22, 2006 at 10:59 AM in Natalee
What !! -- That is the bread and butter for Faux news.... You can't do that.....

[jh]

I guess that they saw what happened to Joran and Deepak and Satish, and decided to take a more proactive role. I mean ,seriously, if this guy did it and JVDS/2K are not involved.. then.. well, their lives will still be pretty screwed up.

So by the inverse, I suspect these parents would rather thier child's life not get screwed up at all and will do anything to prevent that from happening.. even in advance.

Now, all this bs about this covering up for the NYC lawsuit.. the NYC lawsuit will NOT proceed. It's going to get tossed out. Everyone knows this. It won't happen.

[truthbetold]

I don't blame this poor guy one bit, after the mess that everone else has gone through on this I would fight it too why ruin his life and risk sitting in jail forever for the nothing

[Ruddy]

I think the damage is self-inflicted:
When you lay with dogs expect to get fleas.

[Skyboxx]

So a croupier is the person who pays out money and takes bets. Was this guy 18 then? Do you have to be 18 to be croupier in Aruba?

We have accused HI security guards, arrested a judge, arrested the judges son, arrested the son of a security agency based on the testimoney of the police cheifs (Dompig) son..arrested a friend of the judges son and his brother and we have arrested the a DJ and party boat operator, also a friend of the judge's son and friends. Now ALE has arrested another friend of the judges son who worked at the Casino where the judges underage son was allowed to gamble. This latest arrest is a person who left the Island soon after the disappearance of Natalee. Other people to have left the island soon after NH disappearance are the former Police Supt and his son.

Is this new suspect also related to Arlene?

No matter how bizzare this case gets, it still centers around "people" who operated in LE, Laws, and security. How strange, how strange indeed. My spidey senses tell me that Stephen Croes had better have a lawyer and quick...

[Skyboxx]

Seems to me that common crook(s) or criminal(s) would have tripped up by now and that evidencde would have surfaced to solve or at least prosecute this case....but then again if the people who committed the crime are good at recognizing evidence and well you can figure it out from here....... A judges son and if you believe his lawyer an honor student can't remember how he got home and changed his story (he doesn't lie according to his lawyer) and because of these changing lies a girl continues to go missing and now another person's life is about to get churned and burned.....how many people have to have their lives ruined before the truth about NH is revealed???

[Robert Teal]

If Joran did not do the crime I think Geraldo and Greta should be made to kiss his butt in the city square of Amsterdam and give Joran two hours to draw a crowd.

[jh]

You know what bothers me about this new guy, though?

He's fighting extradition. He's fighting law enforcement. He's non-cooperative. Joran and Deepak were not this way. They might have mislead or lied or whatever you want to call it, but they didn't fight arrest. They didn't "flea the country" like this guy did.

Though, it doesn't surprise me. This guy could have done everything without Joran, Deepak, or Satish's help, and we'd never know about it because we've not focused on him at all..

ANd .. with the lawsuit threats.. and the hiring of the best lawyer in the Netherlands.. this guy appears to be far more influential than the Van Der Sloots could ever hope to be.

You can even see it on the major news sites. They're reporting JUST on fact on this new guy. No speculation at all.

[Ruddy]

All roads go to Joran VD Sloot. He lied to the police over and over and even gave us smug shots as he went to court.

Joran is the biggest and the strongest. He be the number 1 pimpsta of the gangsta! He was the last known person to see Natalee alive. One day he tells us the truth he will speak.

What a freakin joke!

[jh]

Really? You think Joran is that powerful?

Powerful people don't stay in jail for months at a time without any charges.

This new kid, HIS family is REAL power. Not like Joran's family. This kid isn't even talking to Aruban investigators as a suspect, and a heavy hitting lawyer is working to make certain he doesn't even make the trip across the ocean, much less spend time in jail.

In the interim, same heavy hitting lawyer is threatening to send cease and desist letters to every single news agency that dares speak of his client and speculation of a crime in the same phrase. Where was Joran's high priced attorney for that?

Fact is, we've not even seen influence peddling in this case. Paulaus couldn't even keep his kid out of jail.

This new guy won't even see Aruba if his lawyer has his way. So who's got more power and influence, really? And who pinned what on who? It makes far more sense for this kid to pin it on Joran and Deepak and Satish and then fight it when it gets close to him.. (like he's doing) than for Joran and Deepak and Satish to sit in jail for months as part of their grand plan.

[Waytoofunny]

Quote = I think the damage is self-inflicted:
When you lay with dogs expect to get fleas.

Posted by: Ruddy | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 12:35 PM

Does that mean if you laid with Natalee you will surely get bitten by the media fleas?

[me]

"second degree of murder, severe assault and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway."
I am confused-is there some sort of proof now there was a murder, "severe" assault, and apparent rape?? how are they charging this new guy with all of what they said if they can't say what happened to her in the first place?? this is getting really really silly. they could have jsut stuck with the other scapegoat.

[windy city]

You can even see it on the major news sites. They're reporting JUST on fact on this new guy. No speculation at all.

Posted by: jh | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:10 PM

What is very curious are reports that this guy and Joran played tennis together the next day after Natalee's vanishing. Seems like more than a coincidence.

[windy city]

"second degree of murder, severe assault and deprivation of liberty of Natalee Holloway."
I am confused-is there some sort of proof now there was a murder, "severe" assault, and apparent rape?? how are they charging this new guy with all of what they said if they can't say what happened to her in the first place?? this is getting really really silly. they could have jsut stuck with the other scapegoat.

Posted by: me | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:36 PM

The young man's attorney last night said someone gave declarations against him. Seems someone is talking!

[jack]

What is very curious are reports that this guy and Joran played tennis together the next day after Natalee's vanishing. Seems like more than a coincidence.

Posted by: windy city | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:40 PM

Thats the primary reason why he was questioned numerous times and now held on the basis of suspicion.

[IMHERE]

I am wondering all thru this you hear very little from Deepak and Satish. A whole lot from Joe T. Why are they revisiting the guys they initally spoke to and now arresting them and letting them go. Are they looking for the weakest link. There were claims made that they all hung out but may not have known each other. How does that work?

[Kafka]

@ rudy

That's why I advised my friends and colleagues not to travel to the US any more. After so many years travelling to the US I am fed up with that country.You are just to arrogant without any knowledge of what's going on outside your country (because of your stupid TV news coverredge). Nowadays I love to travel to Asia and that is much more peacefull with very kind and friendly people with an open mind to foreigners.
To many flies all over the US!

[IMHERE]

Kafka

When you travel to Asia, don't forget your bird flu shot

[windy city]

What is very curious are reports that this guy and Joran played tennis together the next day after Natalee's vanishing. Seems like more than a coincidence.

Posted by: windy city | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:40 PM

Thats the primary reason why he was questioned numerous times and now held on the basis of suspicion.

Posted by: jack | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 01:47 PM

How ya been jack? I was missing our debates. I think I need help as I cannot seem to stay away from this story!

It seems the verbage in his arrest seems stronger than anyone previously held. I wonder why?

[Kafka]

Not as dangerous as dumm Americans, I can assure you! Less people died because of the bird flu then by crime in the US

[IMHERE]

Hey K

where you from bro?

[Captain Joe]

Looks like this Wever bunch is rich enough and politically connected enough to get what they want and make a small problem like Natalee go away and never be found. Media warning indeed. The nerve of those clowns.

[windy city]

Not as dangerous as dumm Americans

Posted by: Kafka | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:06 PM

dumm= dumb-- Ignorance is bliss my friend!

[IMHERE]

Posted by: windy city | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:05 PM

I agree what happened to "in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway"

Seems very strong and definate wording of the charges.

[windy city]

Posted by: windy city | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:05 PM

I agree what happened to "in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway"

Seems very strong and definate wording of the charges.

Posted by: IMHERE | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:12 PM

Only thing I can think of is someone rolled over. Without a body of evidence I don't see how there can be a conviction though. Hope I;m wrong!

[jh]

@windy

Joran and he were in a tennis club on the island. I've been in a tennis club and a chess club before. Sometimes when you get there at the appropriate time, there's no one to play, so you sign up on a list. In some cases, the tennis clubs will track your rating and skill and will assign games to you in a pseudo-league format.

There's nothing coincidental about two members of a club playing against each other on the face. Now, if they'd planned to play each other, that may be different, but we don't know who set the match up. As stated, sometimes the club will do that as a service to its members.

(It's a great way to meet people and get out of the "same old routine")

[windy city]

There's nothing coincidental about two members of a club playing against each other on the face. Now, if they'd planned to play each other, that may be different, but we don't know who set the match up. As stated, sometimes the club will do that as a service to its members.

(It's a great way to meet people and get out of the "same old routine")

Posted by: jh | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:15 PM

They were also gambling buddies jh. I have a hard time thinking they were just singles partners once in a while.

[IMHERE]

Why heavy battery---someone must know and said something

imo

[jack]

How ya been jack? I was missing our debates. I think I need help as I cannot seem to stay away from this story!

It seems the verbage in his arrest seems stronger than anyone previously held. I wonder why?

Posted by: windy city | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:05 PM

Hi windy , ive been doing fine , how bout ya ? I've been missing you too .

Its true that the verage in the latest arrest sounds a lot stronger than the past arrests. There could be several reasons for that .

1. The ALE is desperate to solve the case and is grasping at straws . Remember these 'charges' are merely suspicions at this stage so they dont necessarily reflect any knowledge of an actual crime that ALE might have.

2. Since there is a gag order put on the prosecutor and ALE , all information that we are getting is via unofficial sources so the information is limited both in content and reliability. One could guess that there might be some evidence or witness statement available to the ALE that is promising but at this stage its merely a guess.

3. The ALE needs to have this guy extradited to Aruba for questioning . As I now understand, this procedure may not be as simple as I thought before .
ALE would have expected him to lawyer up and prevent extradition (btw not only he hired a lawyer but one of the best lawyers in Holland),hence justifying the gravity of the charges to help counter any such legal tactics that his lawyers might resort to.

[windy city]

Why heavy battery---someone must know and said something

imo

Posted by: IMHERE | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:20 PM

I was thinking the same thing!

[windy city]

1. The ALE is desperate to solve the case and is grasping at straws . Remember these 'charges' are merely suspicions at this stage so they dont necessarily reflect any knowledge of an actual crime that ALE might have.

Posted by: jack | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:22 PM

It seems that if this were the case why not have ALE goto Holland to question him like the MB kids.
If they bring this guy back to Aruba based on weak evidence they will not only look very foolish, but also risk being sued by the young mans family which appear to be very well off.

[jh]

@windy

Well, nobody has said that they were "friends" but that they knew of each other and were "acquaintances." The police here in the states use that to be a level below friends. I wonder if that is the intention of the police and attorneys there as well.

I'd be curious to how well these two really knew each other. And I've not seen a single thing other than speculation that these guys were "gambling buddies." They might have seen each other, but.. it's a small island with under 72,000 people on it. If you go to the same places, you will see the same people. Does that mean everyone in Aruba are friends , or are acquainted with each other?

Everyone's saying that this guy is connected to Joran and everyone in this case is connected to Joran... but.. equally so, isn't everyone connected to Deepak? Or Satish? Or Steve Crooes? Or Guido here?

It's a SMALL island.

[goodgirl.]

i think the charge is too spacific in terms for this to be just questions. i also like how this time around theres not alot of he said she said stuff either. no one seams to be making any comments about this kid.
as far as the parents and there warning i totaly think they have the right and forsight to draw the line.
lets hope that with the team thats on the case now there turning over every stone. i dont mind hearing there brining in a new guy every week as long as they get all the info and details they need i see this as a possitive step.
i can also understand not wanting to go to aruba, im sure hes on his side saying look what ever it is they wanna ask me they can ask me in this jail why do i need to go there.

[jh]

BTW, CNN.COM is reporting that the man has been indicted on charges of Murder. This means he's the first person in the case to actually be formally charged with a crime.

So whatever they had to indict this guy was stronger than whatever they had with the others.

[IMHERE]

Why fight extridition?

[hmmmm]

The charges were "assisting" in heavy battery, kidnapping, and murder. It does not say he was the only one. Now, exactly who is it that he helped ? How many more ? Someone is talking it would seem. Wonder if they are going to bring back in some fo the other ones. This case is like a whirlwind. This latest arrest does not take the heat off Joran, Deepak and Satish, Steve Croes, Paulus or any of the rest of the ones that have been arrested.

[EggYokes]

Why fight extridition?

Posted by: IMHERE | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:41 PM

That would be extradition. And what if your son was the latest to be targeted as having "something" to do with the Holloway case. Just ship him off even if he probably had nothing to do with anything?

How many people will be accused before this is over?

[mem]

i think Joe the attorney of joran on Fox TV

[jh]

@hmmmmm

Agreed.. but.. this is the first person to be indicted for this crime. Makes me wonder why no one else has even been indicted. Or why he's fighting extradition. Or why he enlisted the services of a big time heavy hitter.

Lot of questions about this that make it seem more real than other cases.

[mem]

Posted by: EggYokes | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:48 PM

They can detained you without pressing charges, it is just for questioning. If you are not consisting with you story they can prolongate your detaintion

[windy city]

Everyone's saying that this guy is connected to Joran and everyone in this case is connected to Joran... but.. equally so, isn't everyone connected to Deepak? Or Satish? Or Steve Crooes? Or Guido here?

It's a SMALL island.

Posted by: jh | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:35 PM

Very good point. Joran did say that he and Deepak were "friends" but only knew each other a few months.

[IMHERE]

Chinbeard?

[jh]

@mem

Correct, but this man has not been detained. He's been indicted. That means he's formally charged with a crime and now a trial must occur.

And Aruba doesn't have plea bargaining.

[IMHERE]

That would be extradition. And what if your son was the latest to be targeted as having "something" to do with the Holloway case. Just ship him off even if he probably had nothing to do with anything?

How many people will be accused before this is over?

Posted by: EggYokes | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:48 PM

They say he just had a new car, and left the island. Young man, new car, leave behind new car in a hurry?

[Bigfish]

The charges were "assisting" in heavy battery, kidnapping, and murder. It does not say he was the only one. Now, exactly who is it that he helped ? How many more ? Someone is talking it would seem. Wonder if they are going to bring back in some fo the other ones. This case is like a whirlwind. This latest arrest does not take the heat off Joran, Deepak and Satish, Steve Croes, Paulus or any of the rest of the ones that have been arrested.

Posted by: hmmmm | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 02:47 PM

+++++++++++++++++++

Huh??????

Mr Van der Sloot has already been cleared by a court of law and is awaiting a damage award against Karen Jansen and ALE. BTW, KJ contract is up in Feb 2007 and will NOT be renewed, reportedly. It has also been reported that with accrued vacation time, she will pack her bags and set sail for the mother land in Nov 2006. Good riddance!

Bigfish

[IMHERE]

The arrest was made on new information

That sounds like someone squealed....

[mem]

Posted by: jh | Monday, May 22, 2006 at 03:16 PM

Maybe they have something, or maybe it is only to obtain that Holland have to come accross with their petition to detain him for questioning.

Holland put Aruba years ago in a possition that Aruba has to extradide people (Arubans?) to the USA, if they commited a crime in the USA. Holland and Aruba are partners, can you call this that you are extraditing a persoon to your own territory. That will be very odd.

[jh]

It's extraditing when you transport someone from one jurisdiction to another. It doesn't matter whether it's across counties in a state in a nation.. or across the states.. or across the world. So long as you move one person from one set of judicial control to another, you are extraditing them. The differences in the laws (even minor differences as evident in Aruba / Netherlands) are enough to warrant a hearing to determine whether or not the extradition is fair.