Another Jesse MacBeth Interview On Web

It's been suggested this guy is a fake. I found the text of an interview with him on a socialist website. If he's legit, he sure has kept a low profile from a quick look around.

Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse.

How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I'd been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn't have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.

How did you become a Special Forces Ranger?
Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School.

What did your division do?
I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people.

We would go into people's houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn't like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn't like, then we'd move on to the rest of the family. They could've been innocent people.

We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi'ites or the Sunnis. [In Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won't go into full detail because I'm still haunted by the memories.

What was the assault on Fallujah like?
Fallujah is where we slaughtered people in mosques. We provoked the people there. Some people escaped from the mosques and saw us. We would dig holes and leave mass graves of children, women, and old men. We were ordered to let people die on the street. We were told that the Geneva Convention means nothing to us in combat.

We were ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in Fallujah. Somebody threw a rock at us, and an officer said that he thought it was a grenade. Then we were ordered to fire. When it's daylight in Iraq, it's daylight! Nobody really thought it was a grenade.

What medals did you get in Iraq?
I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don't remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star.

What injuries did you get?
I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back.

What do you think is the role of the U.S. in Iraq?
The military is terrorists there. Soldiers thought we were going to fight terrorism, but we became the terrorists. We were told we were going to liberate the country and find weapons of mass destruction. The real aim is to have the U.S. own the country. The U.S. wants oil.

How has the government treated you since you got back?
Like shit. I hate them. I'm not gonna be a terrorist or anything, but I hate them. They killed my battle brothers. They used me. They messed me up. They didn't care about me. They turned me into a beast, a machine.

What Veteran's benefits have you gotten?
I ain't getting nothing. A card and that's it.

Where do you work?
I'm an Iraq vet, and I work at Wendy's.

How did you get involved in IVAW?
Veteran's Affairs told me they had no money for me. I always knew the war was fucked up, but that motivated me to say something about it. The government throws us away. They did the same thing after Vietnam.

Why do you think people should get involved in the antiwar movement?
Because it's gotta stop. Innocent people are getting killed. Bush says we have to stay the course and that it's hard work. Bush doesn't know what work is.

Anything else you want to say?
Yeah. The news here is controlled. The military lets information out that serves their purposes. We slaughtered a sovereign nation. Reporters got killed.

When I was growing up, everyone thought I'd be a criminal, but they were wrong. I'm gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.

Comments

[Righty-Tighty]

Dan- We are military. Army to be exact. I checked out the first link you posted to blackfive and nearly lost my lunch viewing the photo of this guy. That is a complete joke. Can't wait til this guy is nailed. No military personnel, regardless of rank or MOS would be caught dead like that. The least he could have done was gone online to see how to properly wear a militay uniform before faking that photo. His uniform also combines components from several different branches of the military, not to mention many other OBVIOUS problems. Check out the comments from other's at that link for more specifics.

I know guys personally who were there in Bagdad and in Fallujah during those sweeps. He is a liar.

[KARAMBIT aka SERVICEBRAT]

EXCELLENT job exposing this sum sucking tea bagger!
I hope you have the contacts to put this poser in jail for a long time.

[Dan S]

What's striking about this whole thing is how totally obvious it is that Jesse "the machine" MacBeth is a complete phoney. I don't know what's harder to believe, "the machine's" story or the fact that SocialistAlternative.com ran their interview without believing that he was a complete fake. SocialistAlternative.com has hit a new low with this one. Using a liar like "the machine" isn't going to further their agenda.

[J A I L]

Why don't we rational thinking, truth telling conservatives make a national example of this guy and the organizations that gave him to us? Surely there are laws that he has violated, related to impersonating and then slandering the government. Does anyone in Washington, or even with the DOJ, have the f'n balls to drop the hammer on this guy? Please, jail him before any of us see him. Oh, and for you hypersensitive liberal freaks, that is not a threat. All I mean is that we'd debate him into submission.

[1charlie2]

When a former Air Force weenie can play "how many things are wrong with this uniform" and rack up a few points without breaking a sweat, it's really rather pathetic. I wouldn't know squat about the t-shirt color, and the rolled-up sleeves would go right by me. But I knew how to wear a beret, I can recognize the 1st SFG flash when I see it, and I see no ice-cream badge in evidence. I wish that the idiotic fringe left (I do NOT include eveyone opposed to the war in that sobriquet) would do at least a little homework. What a bunch of morons.

[Rick]

Been a very long time since creeps were given the "army or jail" choice and that punk would be used to scrub terletsin an SF latrine. He's a real time fake.

[Rabbit]

Heh folks.

Just an anti-war person here, from a reluctant ally country.

Just to keep you informed, and since you guys are obviously a bit more reasoned than many let me point out a thing or two.

The uniform was not to my knowledge ever claimed to be current since the bloke is out now anyway. Yet the beret does pretty much do it for me, since that sort of thing would be habit surely.

Take note please that the acting if it is this is of a very convincing standard, certainly way beyond the usual fake Bin laden tapes the CIA keeps spewing out every time Bush needs a boost or distraction. For this reason it is hard to imagine the Neo-con machine made the video, they just don't sem up to that sort of quality, yet the uniform discrepancies seem to be a gift for the Military bloggers to take apart. Enough to make me wonder who actually produced this alleged fake.

We are still only days into this story and it would be premature to commit to absolute conviction just now I still think. What is really ridiculous is the absolutelt deafening roar of satisfaction coming from right wing camps as if the discovery of such a fake is the answer to all the lies and abuses and fuckups of the whole illegal attack and occupation. Those who are still roundly congratulating themselves as if they just actually won a war or something have obviously failed to notice that there is almost NO left wing/anti-war sites who are doing much with it. The issues of Iraq and occupation are still being debated hotly around the video, but most of us accepted the debunking within hours. The fact that the Bush lovers denied it and debunked automatically never made a difference, we expect that. But facts and genuine research are enough to convince us or at least make us more cautious. That is an interesting contrast to the untouchable denial normal in the war mongering camp.

By the way, a lot of veterans did believe the video and said so, you should look around a bit. The kid was convincing enough for many, but when the count was done and questions arose not many bit.

By the way, I thought from the start he looked a bit scrawny for a Ranger.

[Rabbit]

To the fellow who said it's been a while since creeps were given the Army or Jail choice, you are mistaken.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/02/join_the_army_or_go_to_jail/

I did read something else about it a while back.

You must be aware of the recruiting problems the US military has experienced lately.

[Rabbit]

Cheers and no disrespect intended to any here. I will reply if any bother with this small Rabbit, dropping.