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In all, Hastert received $69,000 in contributions from Abramoff and Indian tribes represented by the lobbyist, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that monitors campaign contributions. Hastert announced this week he would donate the money to charity.

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Cheap way to try to cover your ass, Mr. Hastert. Hope they burn you at the stake. There is absolutely no excuse for accepting the bribes as you did, only plain old greed, my boy, just plain old greed and you thought you would get away with it. So sad, too bad, now you're going to be had.

Wow...no trial or legal vetting process needed...I wish all investigations were as easy as hobo makes them out to be.

Next up...Harry Reid! Correct, hobo? For taking $65,000 of the same tainted money?

"Next up...Harry Reid! Correct, hobo? For taking $65,000 of the same tainted money?" Posted by: Good Lt

No, Lt it will disappear quickly now that we learn dems were involved. The media wont hound them. Same reason noboby remembers Clinton "illegally" listening to phone calls between drug suppliers and dealers. It is an unfortunate fact that too many people in the country think like hobo and have a notion that one party is any different than the other.

But Truthout said ...

Is it a bribe if you don't get what you want?

Without getting into ABC, Hastert or anything else, the answer to that question is: yes, it can very much be bribery even if the briber doesn't get what it wanted from the bribed.

Again, I am not making a comment about this story and the alleged transaction, but I wouldn't make the above argument about bribes that didn't bear fruit.

but I wouldn't make the above argument

Point taken, but I didn't raise it as an argument, so much as I did a question. Certainly there are layers to this thing. At the same time, as the influence didn't work, might it not be that we are left with a letter written on behalf of a supporter? And isn't that akin to what politicians do all the time? If a letter meets the standard of quid pro quo, law makers would be wrong to advocate anything on a supporter's behalf.

Obviously the devil is in the details on this one. And so far ABC has told of none of those.

As much as I don't want to defend Harry Reid, he is from Nevada, and everyone knows Nevadans don't want anyone horning in on their legal Gambling Racket. It would be a lot tougher to prove quid pro quo with Harry. Why Hastert even was involved is a stickier pickle.

I'm surprised I didn't ask this question long ago: when does a [political] contribution becom3e a bribe?

Good Lt.

Thanks for the wake up call; guess I need to pull up the reins a bit. I have become so outraged at all the focus on corruption in the worlds of power and influence that I over-amped. I have every respect for the condition of innocent until proven guilty; guess I'm a little sensitive about people in positions of power and influence getting away with [whatever]. Thanks for not unloading on me.

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