Natalee Holloway - Detainee A Drug Dealer?

From email - we need a translation from Dutch. The email claims this article suggests GVC may be involved with dealing drugs. Obviously I can't confirm the story and am unfamiliar with the publication.

AMSTERDAM - Geoffrey van C., de 19-jarige man die is gearresteerd op verdenking van betrokkenheid bij de verdwijning van de Amerikaanse toeriste Natalee Holloway op Aruba, wordt tevens verdacht van drugshandel.

Dat maakte het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) op Aruba dinsdag bekend.

Amsterdam - Geoffrey van C., the 19 year old male who was arrested on
grounds of believed to be involved in the disappearance of the American
female tourist Natalee Holloway on Aruba, is suspected too of dealing in
drugs.

This was announced tuesday on Aruba by the Public Prosecution Service.

Comments

[Chance]

Interesting. The plot thickens........

[Dixy]

G.V.C. the 19 year old man is suspected of criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance of Miss Holloway and of offenses related to dealing in illegal narcotics.

[DennisAOK]

Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?

[Dixy]

De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother.

Local newspaper Dario says that this boy was not arrested before because he and Dompig's son Michael are very good friends. Now that Dompig is of the case they have arrested them.

The NY Post says: 'The Dutch teenager who's been detained in Aruba in the puzzling year-old Natalee Holloway case was seen with the Alabama honors student on the night she disappeared, her friends have told authorities.'

'Her pals also told officials that Geoffrey van Cromvoirt, the 19-year-old arrested Saturday, spent time with Holloway earlier during her senior class graduation trip to the Caribbean island, a source close to the investigation said.'

[TJ]

From refugees:
Posted: Tue Apr 18th, 2006 05:17 pm Quote Reply

This is an excerpt from a NY Post article, posted by Adrienne on TUS.

http://p073.ezboard.com/ftheunusualsuspectsfrm7.showMessage?topicID=875.topic/

"...April 18, 2006 -- The Dutch teenager who's been detained in Aruba in the puzzling year-old Natalee Holloway case was seen with the Alabama honors student on the night she disappeared, her friends have told authorities...

"...According to what Holloway's friends have told authorities, the blond-haired, blue-eyed van Cromvoirt was seen with their classmate after she left van der Sloot - the pals say they saw them in the Holiday Inn casino together...."

kati.smith@nypost.com /

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/67162.htm

[Dixy]

Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?

Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM

Nope, that's not what the article in De Telegraaf said. It's more dealing in illegal narcotics in general.

[wreck]

"De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother."

---let's here more about THIS.

[Jeannette Malatesta]

Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?

Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM

Wow. That's a real leap.

[TJ]

The Telegraaf article mentions Joran and GvC know each other, but based on what source. Just a guess out of the blue, I think.

[mlskeens]

Posted by: wreck | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:53 PM

coming from a publication in Netherlands - very interesting. I'd like to hear more about this also. Joe T says Joran doesn't know him.

[xxx]

The misinformation in this case never ends.

Alleged reporters are now using posts on blogs as 'sources' for news stories. What's next? Psychic predictions masquerading as off the record commentary?

[mlskeens]

Posted by: xxx | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:58 PM

Don't follow you on this. Who are you talking about?

[DennisAOK]

Suspicion of being the supplier of the date rape drug used on Natalee?

Posted by: DennisAOK | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:46 PM

Wow. That's a real leap.

Posted by: Jeannette Malatesta | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:55 PM

No more a leap than any other speculation about the extent of GVC's involvement. Compared to premeditated murder, which is one of the stated "charges" (in the Aruban sense), it is rather tame.

[xxx]

I cant' read what is said in a Dutch newspaper, but what source are they quoting for this? Joran's lawyer has flatly denied he knows this person, so if there is evidence that this is another lie, that would be HUGE...but seems kind of unlikely, more likely another reporter error based on rumors and speculation and not concrete info. from anyone who has actual knowledge of the case.

[TJ]

I think the close acquaintance between GvC and the son of Dompig is a fact. And drugdealing is most likely the case. So Dompig had a strong motive to say "these boys (J2K) are guilty as hell" and sabotage the investigation. If this is the case this has to have big consequences for Dompig and also for Karin Janssen who has been acting like a fool.

[Dixy]

The Telegraaf article mentions Joran and GvC know each other, but based on what source. Just a guess out of the blue, I think.

Posted by: TJ | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:57 PM

You're right, it is not sure that the know each other, I am sorry. De Telegraaf said that it is said that the two know each other.

[mlskeens]

Posted by: TJ | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:04 PM

agree - it seems like everyone on this case has lied. But public officials? They should all be removed and dealt with legally. But what would the consequences be in Aruba. Seem to have a very lax standard on their officials.

[xxx]

I don't know, that doesn't really work for me.

So Dompig is going to try and frame 3 guys to keep his son's buddy out of jail?

I really think that Dompig is an idiot, I believe he attempted to solve the case, to try and get evidence against the 3 suspects but he's too stupid to be able to actually solve a case.

Just like everyone else, he kept thinking the media pressure would eventually die down, when it didn't he started feeling the heat from somewhere..probably originating in Holland...to make some progress.

That is when he started inventing witnesses who knew where Natalee was burried, making bizarre statements that she died of an overdose but was burried, dug up and reburried and then in his hail mary attempt to tie this all together he pulled his drug addict/drug dealer/criminal brother in law out of his hat as his other new witness.

I've followed this case from day one and I have no idea what is going on. My best guess is that ALE believes this guy has something on the other suspects or he's another 'for show' arrest with nothing to tell anyone.

[Translation of Dutch article]

Holloway detainee also suspected of drug trafficking

AMSTERDAM - Geoffrey of C., the 19 year old man who has been arrested on suspicion of involvement in the disappearance of the American tourist Natalee Holloway on Aruba is also suspected of drug trafficking.

That made public by the Prosecution Office in Aruba.

The Dutchman appears Tuesday for the first time before a judge who will determine on the the request of prosecustion whether Van C. can be held for the next eight days.

The 18 year old Holloway disappeared last year after she visited a bar in AAruba.

Previously Joran van der S. and two Surinamese brothers were arrested by the Aruban police
brothers because they would be responsible for the, but a judge decided eventually that there was not enough evidence to continue to hold the suspects. After months of silence around disappearance the police force arrested Saturday Van C..

Van C. would be an acquaintance of Joran van der S., who is till the main suspect in the Holloway case. Joran and Geoffrey are both from a wealthy Dutch families and they are of the same age.

[charles-1]

Miskeen;

Currently a former DA and head of the OM of St-Maarten (one of the 5 islands of The Netherlands Antilles) has to stand trail because of forgery (he wanted to know what his former girlfriend was having an affair) and forged documents in order to get her phone records. He resigned on the condition that he would leave the island. He did so, but when he returned and started practicing law as a private attorney he was arrested and know faces up to 5 years in prison.

[curious]

Joran and GVC pictured together...! (you be the judge - but I say it is GVC next to Joran)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff9.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff5.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoffrey5.jpg

[DennisAOK]

curious,

Yes, it sure looks like it.

[sunshine]

De Telegraaf also says that this boy and Joran know eachother."

---let's here more about THIS.

Posted by: wreck | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 05:53 PM

De Telegraaf is an sensation newspaper. Most duchies call it the Teleraaf.lol Not such a reliable newspaper. Everything I read in this newspaper was chewed on here yesterday as if they took the news from the bloggers and forums.

[sunshine]

Joran and GVC pictured together...! (you be the judge - but I say it is GVC next to Joran)

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff9.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoff5.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/quiltingone/geoffrey5.jpg

Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:24 PM

Look the distance between the nose and the mouth.lol

[satchmo]

If this report that Natalee was seen by her friends in the HI casino after whe left Joran that night, then how is it that Joran has been a suspect as the last person seen with Natalee. This makes no sense. Either she was not seen after Joran left that night, she was seen with Geoffrey, or the police are so screwed up that they would persue Joran even though he was known to have not been the "last person" supported by statements of Natalee's friends.

Am I missing something here?

[mlskeens]

Posted by: charles-1 | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:19 PM

Just like the previous govenor of the State of Illinois, just was charged with racketeering and other offenses that could get the 72 year old former governor 20 years. Public officials should be held liable just as every other citizen.

Thanks for sharing that information!

[JA]

Curious,
I agree that when comparing those pics they do look alike. I have reads that that guy next to Joran in the "Pimps" picture is a guy named Darwin Duberto. I did a search on him and looked at his Tickle site. Darwin looks more ethnic ( not meaning anything other than he doesn't look Dutch) on his Tickle site and it is strange that he doesn't have any of the pimps as his friends. Whoever named the people in the "pimps" picture could be wrong about Darwin, because they also named Koen as Gilliam Van Stratten. I am almost positive that is Koen in the picture.

[wreck]

Curious, that pic is supposedly Koen's brother -- not GVC. That pic has been around a very long time and everyone id'd. I think GVC is MUCH taller than that guy as well.

[xxx]

No you are not missing anything...you are just witnessing more spin and bad reporting.

Clearly, if there were multiple statements that Natalee was with GVC back at the hotel after Joran dropped her off, then he would never have been a suspect in the first place...neither the police or Beth would have suspected him and in fact, it is unlikely that Beth would have even landed on the VDS's doorstep...she would instead have landed on the doorstep of the 'real' last person seen with Natalee.

It is possible that the NYPOst either inadvertently or purposefully wrote the story in a confusing way and what they really mean is she was seen in the casino that day, after Joran left, but before going to C&C's...

Let's ask Boeti, maybe he knows.

[mlskeens]

Posted by: sunshine | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 06:51 PM

Looks like it could be him! LOL - that would be something if JVS did know him and tried to say he didn't if this is the same person in these pictures!

[RstJ]

"Clearly, if there were multiple statements that Natalee was with GVC back at the hotel after Joran dropped her off, then he would never have been a suspect in the first place."

And if those statements contradict what's on the security tape, which are you going to believe? Seriously we're looking at the possibility that a security company responsible for practically that entire area, *including interior spaces* might have fucked with the security tapes for that night. If the MB kids said they saw Natalee and she's not on the tape, what's the reaction going to be? That they must be mistake, confused about the time, drunk and stoned and saw someone else. Nobody's going to take the word of a few drunk teenagers over security cameras.

There's a lot to suggest she returned, including that her cellphone was found despite her having made at least one call after being in CnCs. How can you explain that one away?

As for GVC dealing, who knows. But man, that kid looks glimm'd as hell in some of those pictures. He has the same expression on his face that Morris and Byrd did in that one shot of them together.

RstJ

RstJ

[Sgt. York]

RE: "that would be something if JVS did know him and tried to say he didn't"

Gimme a break.
Joran is a walking pile of lies.

[JA]

Agreed about it being Sander G. That would make sense too because both brothers are at the party. So it is not Darwin or Geoffrey.

[JL]

that picture is 100%

Sander Gottenbos

[rick]

All these guys have to know each other. GVC worked on snorkeling and parasailing boats. So did M Dompig. They all go after the tourist girls including Joran. It's impossible they all don't know each other.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/425616365/1425697195063453400HgIaHE#
http://community.webshots.com/photo/518010456/1518040021082327657ofmBiQ
http://community.webshots.com/photo/518010456/1518051474082327657SPpgAG
http://community.webshots.com/photo/240708389/1242559385063433796DvPWEv

[xxx]

RsJ, you are not being logical.

Of course I would believe the MB students if they said they saw Natalee at the hotel, after 2:30AM, after Joran left her on the beach...they have no reason to lie about her whereabouts despite what the whack jobs think.

But if these statements exist, Why didnt' Beth believe them? Why didnt' the police believe them? Why didn't Joran and K2's lawyers make these statements exonerating their clients public?

Answer: The statements do not exist.

I know you are hung up on the call, but it has never been verified, and certainly if it came from HER OWN CELL PHONE, come on, duh, there would never have been any question of whether or not it was her, it would have been obvious that someone who sounded like Natalee calling from Natalee's phone was in all probability Natalee.

I always thought the phone call came from a disposable phone that couldn't be traced, otherwise, it would have been easy to determine the facts surrounding it.

[curious]

GO HERE...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joranvandersloot/61169380/in/photostream/ (hover over their faces in the picture to see their names)

Sanders is next to the plane window - his brother Koen is next to him and their dad is behind them.

The guy in the "pimp" picture is Geoffrey - study the pictures!

Sanders does not even look like the kid in the pimp picture.

[Kelly3]

Who did the chaperones report Natalee missing to in the very begining when she didn't make the plane??? If I remember right whoever they report it to didn't get to actual LE for hours. Was it Beach Security????

[JL]

Sanders does not even look like the kid in the pimp picture.

Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 07:36 PM

scared monkeys is saying they are 100% sure it is sander.

[letsbefair]

Anybody else remember this simian post from early on?

"Girl comes to Aruba. Meets cool and crazy guy in C@$ino. Goes out with him. He declares that to be the case. Cant deny it. Its on tape. Everybody in the C@$ino knows the group of teens, they have been drinking in there for free the whole week.

After a couple of days girl meets another boy in the same C@$ino. Goes out with him. This makes first guy really mad. So mad he confronts second boy.

First guy never denies the affair. He knows they know he was with her. However, he has an airtight alibi. Some friends say they were at home with him. Until the morning.

[curious]

http://www.album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?pid=2207&fullsize=1

a closer pic of the boys and clear one

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

I watched LKL last night and Joe T ( who I think is Julia's gossip pal ) said something that no one else seems to have mentioned. He was going so fast, I barely caught it.
Joe says soemthing like :
Joran doesn't know GVC. Coming from the other side, the GVC kid says he had a converation with Joran at a bar. Joran doesn't remember.

How does Joe know what the other kid ( GVC ) said ?

[jh]

Yesterday I said that it'd be interesting to see what was going on when we were distracted by Joran, Deepak, and Satish. Now I can see that this might go pretty deep.

Ignore Natalee. Ignore JVS/2K. The lead investigator's son is good friends with someone who was with/romantically involved with Natalee earlier in the week and we only hear about it or see action AFTER the lead investigator is removed?

Ohh.. this doesn't just involve GVC. This is a cover up. The lead investigator's son's friend is involved with Narcotics and a disappearance, and nobody hears a word about it until after he's reassigned? Forget the boys for a moment and think about this. What did Dompig know, when did he know it, and can ANYTHING he said about ANYONE involved with this case be trusted now?

[catzilla]

I just wonder what BHT and DH think about all these new developments. They should make e HUGE erratum for their book, or else I won't buy it!!

[windmillie]

Just saw an article in the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad stating that Joe Tacopino is not being paid for his services to the Van der Sloots. It is called 'pro bono', which is Latin for: "for the good (of it)."

[exilesanctuary.com]

http://www.album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?pid=2207&fullsize=1

a closer pic of the boys and clear one

Posted by: curious | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 08:34 PM
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Curious, while Geoffrey resembles the blonde guy in the other pictures, posted, he really doesn't look like the blonde in the picture in URL to me.

Remember, Geoffrey may be much taller, and this boy looks younger.

I do think there is are striking similarities in some of the pictures to the pix of GVC, but, Scared Monkeys is reporting that there is no doubt who it is, and it is NOT GVC.

I may not always agree with everything posted at SM, but, I do believe the mods there know this case inside out, and they have nixed it. They tend to not give Joran the benefit of the doubt in these things, and so, to me, it is meaningful that one of their chiefs states that the boy in the pictures with Joran isn't GVC.

Besides, people may not admire Joe T., but, he has nothing to gain by lying about Joran not knowing the boy, especially if there are pictures of him with Joran.

[exilesanctuary.com]

Just saw an article in the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad stating that Joe Tacopino is not being paid for his services to the Van der Sloots. It is called 'pro bono', which is Latin for: "for the good (of it)."

Posted by: windmillie | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:48 PM
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I have heard he's doing this pro bono, as well.

Joe T. is a good guy, and I respect him for taking this case. He's a top-notch lawyer, and functions well in the media. He seems to honestly believe in Joran's innocence, too. Usually, lawyers take on cases pro bono, when they believe an injustice is happening.

His normal retainers are probably in the 6 figure range, and this represents a noble gesture.

He's already done a magnificent job in rehabilitating a very maligned kid, who he believes is innocent of harming Natalee Holloway.

[catzilla]

I don't like this Joran, but I think JT ia one hell of a nice guy. ONe in a million or trillion in the US I quess.

[roy]

I may not always agree with everything posted at SM, but, I do believe the mods there know this case inside out, and they have nixed it. They tend to not give Joran the benefit of the doubt in these things, and so, to me, it is meaningful that one of their chiefs states that the boy in the pictures with Joran isn't GVC.
Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:50 PM

Agree with you 100%.
You would expect SM to say that they knew each other.

[windmillie]

Joe T. = good to have on your side, no doubt. Still, a little murky what he said about JvdS knowing GvC yes or no. First it was a clear, adamant denial: JvdS had never seen, spoken etc GvC. Now... a litlle different. "Yes," Joe T. said, "they may have met in a bar, and may have exchanged some pleasanteries." Maybe not a big deal, but still... spin!
Anway, I am expecting young Mr. Croes and one of the Kalpoes (SK) to be arrested soon.